Losmeister wrote:hilrious all the hand wringing done wnet MA sent him packing... brilliant decision
Nice history re-write
The anger was that he wasn’t replaced, not that he got booted.
by UFGN » Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:39 pm
Losmeister wrote:hilrious all the hand wringing done wnet MA sent him packing... brilliant decision
by Pudpop » Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:53 pm
by UFGN » Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:25 pm
Pudpop wrote:Not replacing him was the correct decision?
We signed Jesus the summer after.
Keeping a 300k pw player in the reserves would have been stupid, and he wasn't going to play so selling was the correct decision, replacement or not
by Pudpop » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:48 am
Yes I am, because unlike you I look at context when deciding if I'm OK with somethingUFGN wrote:Pudpop wrote:Not replacing him was the correct decision?
We signed Jesus the summer after.
Keeping a 300k pw player in the reserves would have been stupid, and he wasn't going to play so selling was the correct decision, replacement or not
We missed out on Champions League football and handed it to Spurs?
If you’re cool with that, that’s your business. I’m not cool with it, not at the time and not ever.
by UFGN » Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:55 am
Pudpop wrote:Yes I am, because unlike you I look at context when deciding if I'm OK with somethingUFGN wrote:Pudpop wrote:Not replacing him was the correct decision?
We signed Jesus the summer after.
Keeping a 300k pw player in the reserves would have been stupid, and he wasn't going to play so selling was the correct decision, replacement or not
We missed out on Champions League football and handed it to Spurs?
If you’re cool with that, that’s your business. I’m not cool with it, not at the time and not ever.
We tried to sign Vlahovic, he went to juve instead. The club decided to wait because there wasn't another appropriate signing available, and we cared about the long term plan more than we did about one season in the CL where we wouldn't even have the depth to compete.
If we only make decisions for short term gains then we will only have short term success.
Spurs finished 4th ahead of us because they had a manager who cared about short term success. How is that working out for them? Were they competitive in the CL last season?
I care about champions league football because I want to win the competition, not because I want us to get one over on spurs.
Last season we were prepared to break the bank in January to try and win the league. Why? Because winning trophies is the whole f***ing point.
I'm sorry I care more about that than trying to scrape 4th in 2022, but unlike you I got rid of the Wenger era mindset of finishing fourth is a trophy, or celebrating St totteringhams day like we won the league
by Highbury Hillbilly » Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:32 pm
Losmeister wrote:hilrious all the hand wringing done wnet MA sent him packing... brilliant decision
by jayramfootball » Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:32 pm
Highbury Hillbilly wrote:Losmeister wrote:hilrious all the hand wringing done wnet MA sent him packing... brilliant decision
Only if you swallowed the PR hit job whole. The Auba saga exposed an amateur manager who couldn't deal with an underperforming player and threw his weight around to terminate his deal mid-season, without a replacement. We had 4th on a plate and ended up bottling it.
It's unclear if Arteta has matured to the extent needed, since then. When we were bottling the title last season, he had no plan. Except maybe to throw £100k pw Eddie on to run some laps while 3-0 down to Brighton.
by Ach » Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:20 pm
Highbury Hillbilly wrote:Losmeister wrote:hilrious all the hand wringing done wnet MA sent him packing... brilliant decision
Only if you swallowed the PR hit job whole. The Auba saga exposed an amateur manager who couldn't deal with an underperforming player and threw his weight around to terminate his deal mid-season, without a replacement. We had 4th on a plate and ended up bottling it.
It's unclear if Arteta has matured to the extent needed, since then. When we were bottling the title last season, he had no plan. Except maybe to throw £100k pw Eddie on to run some laps while 3-0 down to Brighton.
by jayramfootball » Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:29 pm
Losmeister wrote:hilrious all the hand wringing done wnet MA sent him packing... brilliant decision
by Angelito » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:29 pm
by Est83 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:40 pm
by Highbury Hillbilly » Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:05 pm
Angelito wrote:Let's not forget that Auba scored 11 goals in 17 games for Barcelona, which helped them clinch UCL football. He also scored 92 goals for us including 21 assists in 163 games in all competitions.
It didn't end well but let's not revise history. Don't ignore the fact that Arteta offered him that huge contract. So, both parties share the blame; the club moreso than him.
Auba was amazing for us. He spearheaded that FA Cup win. Since then, and around £600-650m later, we still haven't won a trophy.
You have to appreciate that he was our best performer in, arguably, our lowest period of the modern era. 113 goal contributions in 163 games is world class. It was the club's decision to offer him that extension. If you want to point fingers, the club is where it's at.
by alexafc12 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:07 pm
Highbury Hillbilly wrote:Angelito wrote:Let's not forget that Auba scored 11 goals in 17 games for Barcelona, which helped them clinch UCL football. He also scored 92 goals for us including 21 assists in 163 games in all competitions.
It didn't end well but let's not revise history. Don't ignore the fact that Arteta offered him that huge contract. So, both parties share the blame; the club moreso than him.
Auba was amazing for us. He spearheaded that FA Cup win. Since then, and around £600-650m later, we still haven't won a trophy.
You have to appreciate that he was our best performer in, arguably, our lowest period of the modern era. 113 goal contributions in 163 games is world class. It was the club's decision to offer him that extension. If you want to point fingers, the club is where it's at.
Forget it mate. The people using his Chelsea stint to call him "finished" are the same ones saying Kai Havertz was "mismanaged" there.
For all the talk of a great young team, we haven't managed so much as a sniff of a cup since Auba left.
by jayramfootball » Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:28 pm
alexafc12 wrote:Highbury Hillbilly wrote:Angelito wrote:Let's not forget that Auba scored 11 goals in 17 games for Barcelona, which helped them clinch UCL football. He also scored 92 goals for us including 21 assists in 163 games in all competitions.
It didn't end well but let's not revise history. Don't ignore the fact that Arteta offered him that huge contract. So, both parties share the blame; the club moreso than him.
Auba was amazing for us. He spearheaded that FA Cup win. Since then, and around £600-650m later, we still haven't won a trophy.
You have to appreciate that he was our best performer in, arguably, our lowest period of the modern era. 113 goal contributions in 163 games is world class. It was the club's decision to offer him that extension. If you want to point fingers, the club is where it's at.
Forget it mate. The people using his Chelsea stint to call him "finished" are the same ones saying Kai Havertz was "mismanaged" there.
For all the talk of a great young team, we haven't managed so much as a sniff of a cup since Auba left.
fair comment tbh
by Highbury Hillbilly » Wed Aug 16, 2023 1:42 pm