Champions League 2024-25

[Ach]

The Don is awesome

[MathyGooner]

Villa win, Liverpool finish Bologna, Atletico hammered and Real lose in Lille.

[Ach]

Villa beat an on form Bayern

We lose to the worst Bayern side in years

Emery truly is the Don

[Nuggets]

Villa beat an on form Bayern

We lose to the worst Bayern side in years

Emery truly is the Don

He is that.

[DiamondGooner]

Emi Martinez is World class....end of.

Literally kept Villa ahead single handedly.

Emery is one of the best Mid level team managers in football.

Some managers are just better at managing top level stars than others and some are more suited to mid level players......Peps real talent is that no one manages stars as well as he does, Klopp was always the better actual manager for me.

[DiamondGooner]

Wow the Juventus vs RBL game was sensational also.

[Highbury Hillbilly]

Emi Martinez is World class....end of.

Literally kept Villa ahead single handedly.

Emery is one of the best Mid level team managers in football.

Some managers are just better at managing top level stars than others and some are more suited to mid level players......Peps real talent is that no one manages stars as well as he does, Klopp was always the better actual manager for me.

He's one of the best managers period.

Pep, Mourinho and Arteta are never getting 3 points against Bayern with an MLS striker up top and a Championship midfield of Morgan Rogers and Philogene.

He's beaten Bayern with Villarreal and reached the CL semis with a shoestring squad. There's no comparison in modern football really, Emery is in a class of his own.

[MathyGooner]

Emi Martinez is World class....end of.

Literally kept Villa ahead single handedly.

Emery is one of the best Mid level team managers in football.

Some managers are just better at managing top level stars than others and some are more suited to mid level players......Peps real talent is that no one manages stars as well as he does, Klopp was always the better actual manager for me.

He's one of the best managers period.

Pep, Mourinho and Arteta are never getting 3 points against Bayern with an MLS striker up top and a Championship midfield of Morgan Rogers and Philogene.

He's beaten Bayern with Villarreal and reached the CL semis with a shoestring squad. There's no comparison in modern football really, Emery is in a class of his own.

Meh. I don't think it's that simple. Managers can be good at different things and modes of play. Emery is top when it comes to tournament football but not top tier in league football IMO. His record supports that.

Might be a great candidate for international management later on his career.

[UFGN]

With this tournament structure it’s so important to finish top eight. Otherwise it’s a two leg high stakes match and we need more drama like a hole in the head.

[Highbury Hillbilly]

Meh. I don't think it's that simple. Managers can be good at different things and modes of play. Emery is top when it comes to tournament football but not top tier in league football IMO. His record supports that.

Might be a great candidate for international management later on his career.

I can't think of a single international manager who wasn't a failure at club level. Emery is about the furthest thing from that. Remind me where we were 2 years into Arteta's tenure?

"Top-tier league football" is a cartel of clubs spending big to maintain their dominance. The tournaments matter more than the league, if anything, because it shows which teams can outsmart the other despite being outgunned financially over a 12 month period. In the past 20 years, only Wenger's Arsenal, Spurs and Leicester managed to reach 2nd place without spending a fortune.

Football is more interesting to watch when a Tuchel can win the CL in 6 months with a ragtag Chelsea v the mighty Pep, or when Rodgers outstmarts Tuchel to win the FA Cup.

"Working with the players you have" is a lost art in the modern game because managers are now supposed to be tortured artists with an unwavering creative vision for what their team should look like.

Emery is probably the only manager in the game who can get these kinds of results by developing players he already has.

[DiamondGooner]

Emery's issue is he's failed as a top flight manager of big clubs and its simply because I think his approach and values are that of a mid level club manager, a bit like a Brendan Rodgers or Santos.

Great success at mid level clubs, fall flat on their face at big clubs .........that is to do with charisma and a level where you can manage big ego stars.

Fergie had it, Wenger had it, Mourhino used to have it, Klopp has it, Pep is probably the king at it.

Emery I think likes honest, hard working players who don't have their head up their arse and are willing to take and respect his instructions ...... which is what hungry players at mid level clubs will do.

Top stars at the Bernabeu or City etc you need to show them you're bigger than them, that the board back you 100%, that the level and standard is at or beyond them, that they're lucky to be there ......one sniff of weakness and your toast as a manager at clubs like that, I think Emery is to nice for that kind of environment.

[Ach]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... k70g4x8nro

Our players back then were not intelligent enough

[Nuggets]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c1k70g4x8nro

Our players back then were not intelligent enough

Good read, the man is a genius If we had stuck with him I feel sure we would have won something by now. What a kick in the teeth it would be if he won the CL

[Highbury Hillbilly]

Emery's issue is he's failed as a top flight manager of big clubs and its simply because I think his approach and values are that of a mid level club manager, a bit like a Brendan Rodgers or Santos.

Great success at mid level clubs, fall flat on their face at big clubs .........that is to do with charisma and a level where you can manage big ego stars.

Fergie had it, Wenger had it, Mourhino used to have it, Klopp has it, Pep is probably the king at it.

Emery I think likes honest, hard working players who don't have their head up their arse and are willing to take and respect his instructions ...... which is what hungry players at mid level clubs will do.

Top stars at the Bernabeu or City etc you need to show them you're bigger than them, that the board back you 100%, that the level and standard is at or beyond them, that they're lucky to be there ......one sniff of weakness and your toast as a manager at clubs like that, I think Emery is to nice for that kind of environment.

Wenger aside, this is a list of managers at a cartel of clubs that can outspend everybody else. Wenger stopped winning the second Abramovich arrived. Arteta snuck into the CL 19 years later when Abramovich left and Chelsea collapsed. Coincidence?

Emery's beaten Bayern with 3 different clubs. Arteta on the other hand hasn't managed it ever.

Your idea of a successful manager appears to be somebody who doesn't win trophies but puts up a good enough effort in the league.

[DiamondGooner]

Emery's issue is he's failed as a top flight manager of big clubs and its simply because I think his approach and values are that of a mid level club manager, a bit like a Brendan Rodgers or Santos.

Great success at mid level clubs, fall flat on their face at big clubs .........that is to do with charisma and a level where you can manage big ego stars.

Fergie had it, Wenger had it, Mourhino used to have it, Klopp has it, Pep is probably the king at it.

Emery I think likes honest, hard working players who don't have their head up their arse and are willing to take and respect his instructions ...... which is what hungry players at mid level clubs will do.

Top stars at the Bernabeu or City etc you need to show them you're bigger than them, that the board back you 100%, that the level and standard is at or beyond them, that they're lucky to be there ......one sniff of weakness and your toast as a manager at clubs like that, I think Emery is to nice for that kind of environment.

Wenger aside, this is a list of managers at a cartel of clubs that can outspend everybody else. Wenger stopped winning the second Abramovich arrived. Arteta snuck into the CL 19 years later when Abramovich left and Chelsea collapsed. Coincidence?

Emery's beaten Bayern with 3 different clubs. Arteta on the other hand hasn't managed it ever.

Your idea of a successful manager appears to be somebody who doesn't win trophies but puts up a good enough effort in the league.

Not at all, I said he's a good manager but can't hack it at elite clubs, his career proves that.