theHotHead wrote:Its not a foul, someone tell me why it was a foul.
The attacker is not obligated to move out of the way. That was a mistake by Ramsdale
Yup
Poor positioning from Ramsdale
by Ach » Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:36 am
theHotHead wrote:Its not a foul, someone tell me why it was a foul.
The attacker is not obligated to move out of the way. That was a mistake by Ramsdale
by Power n Glory » Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:56 am
by alexafc12 » Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:57 am
by jayramfootball » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:06 am
theHotHead wrote:Its not a foul, someone tell me why it was a foul.
The attacker is not obligated to move out of the way. That was a mistake by Ramsdale
by Power n Glory » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:28 am
alexafc12 wrote:When that happens a defender should stand between the attacker and Ramsdale.
Also should have been a player on the post - agree.
by theHotHead » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:31 am
jayramfootball wrote:theHotHead wrote:Its not a foul, someone tell me why it was a foul.
The attacker is not obligated to move out of the way. That was a mistake by Ramsdale
Because he’s not just standing in front of the goal keeper. He is jostling him by pushing his weight back into him and also wrapping his arms around him.
When a corner is about to be taken a ref even stops play if two defenders are doing that.
I don’t mind that being allowed TBH, as long as it is ALWAYS allowed. I don’t want to see goals chalked off for jostling the keeper in future games before or whilst the the ball is coming in for a corner. I suspect we WILL see free kicks given for that in the future, however.
by swipe right » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:45 am
by Fran Solo » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:58 am
theHotHead wrote:jayramfootball wrote:theHotHead wrote:Its not a foul, someone tell me why it was a foul.
The attacker is not obligated to move out of the way. That was a mistake by Ramsdale
Because he’s not just standing in front of the goal keeper. He is jostling him by pushing his weight back into him and also wrapping his arms around him.
When a corner is about to be taken a ref even stops play if two defenders are doing that.
I don’t mind that being allowed TBH, as long as it is ALWAYS allowed. I don’t want to see goals chalked off for jostling the keeper in future games before or whilst the the ball is coming in for a corner. I suspect we WILL see free kicks given for that in the future, however.
I disagree Jay. When you get pushed from behind you fall forwards, so the backing in you say you saw isn't backing in, its a result of the attacker being pushed in the back - making him bend over.
by jayramfootball » Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:21 pm
theHotHead wrote:jayramfootball wrote:theHotHead wrote:Its not a foul, someone tell me why it was a foul.
The attacker is not obligated to move out of the way. That was a mistake by Ramsdale
Because he’s not just standing in front of the goal keeper. He is jostling him by pushing his weight back into him and also wrapping his arms around him.
When a corner is about to be taken a ref even stops play if two defenders are doing that.
I don’t mind that being allowed TBH, as long as it is ALWAYS allowed. I don’t want to see goals chalked off for jostling the keeper in future games before or whilst the the ball is coming in for a corner. I suspect we WILL see free kicks given for that in the future, however.
I disagree Jay. When you get pushed from behind you fall forwards, so the backing in you say you saw isn't backing in, its a result of the attacker being pushed in the back - making him bend over.
by thebigbangtheo » Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:13 am
by alexafc12 » Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:56 am
"An indirect free kick is awarded if a player impedes the progress of an opponent without any contact being made.
Impeding the progress of an opponent means moving into the opponent’s path to obstruct, block, slow down or force a change of direction when the ball is not within playing distance of either player.
All players have a right to their position on the field of play; being in the way of an opponent is not the same as moving into the way of an opponent.
A player may shield the ball by taking a position between an opponent and the ball if the ball is within playing distance and the opponent is not held off with the arms or body. If the ball is within playing distance, the player may be fairly charged by an opponent.
A player may not shield the ball if it is not in playing distance. For example, if a player stands in front of the goalkeeper on a corner kick, and then moves to prevent the goalkeeper getting around them, this should be called as impeding."
by jayramfootball » Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:58 am
by thebigbangtheo » Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:59 am
alexafc12 wrote:The wording is open to interpretation but for me it's a foul:"An indirect free kick is awarded if a player impedes the progress of an opponent without any contact being made.
Impeding the progress of an opponent means moving into the opponent’s path to obstruct, block, slow down or force a change of direction when the ball is not within playing distance of either player.
All players have a right to their position on the field of play; being in the way of an opponent is not the same as moving into the way of an opponent.
A player may shield the ball by taking a position between an opponent and the ball if the ball is within playing distance and the opponent is not held off with the arms or body. If the ball is within playing distance, the player may be fairly charged by an opponent.
A player may not shield the ball if it is not in playing distance. For example, if a player stands in front of the goalkeeper on a corner kick, and then moves to prevent the goalkeeper getting around them, this should be called as impeding."
by jayramfootball » Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:12 am
thebigbangtheo wrote:alexafc12 wrote:The wording is open to interpretation but for me it's a foul:"An indirect free kick is awarded if a player impedes the progress of an opponent without any contact being made.
Impeding the progress of an opponent means moving into the opponent’s path to obstruct, block, slow down or force a change of direction when the ball is not within playing distance of either player.
All players have a right to their position on the field of play; being in the way of an opponent is not the same as moving into the way of an opponent.
A player may shield the ball by taking a position between an opponent and the ball if the ball is within playing distance and the opponent is not held off with the arms or body. If the ball is within playing distance, the player may be fairly charged by an opponent.
A player may not shield the ball if it is not in playing distance. For example, if a player stands in front of the goalkeeper on a corner kick, and then moves to prevent the goalkeeper getting around them, this should be called as impeding."
Absolutely no disputing this ruling and definition of what constitutes a foul, especially the last paragraph as it pertains to the Villa goal. The issue muddying the water for me, is the action of Ramsdale in his grappling with Watkins to effectively impede himself.
Put the shoe on the other foot, and I think they'd be an uproar and outpouring of conspiracy theories had that been Saliba or Magalhaes being penalised and the goal chalked off.