jayramfootball wrote:CrimsonGunner11 wrote:jayramfootball wrote:CrimsonGunner11 wrote:If by some miracle we get CL football after the final match week then Arteta would have earned another season. But only just. I however see no chance of us qualifying for the CL at this point so I might as well get my rant in early.
To start, I cannot believe some of the posts I’ve been reading on here after yesterdays game. How anyone! still thinks Arteta is the right man for the job is beyond me. He won’t get an easier season than this season! and he failed at pretty much every hurdle that was presented to him.
This was my response to one of Angelito’s post at the end of last season and unfortunately Arteta did not make me eat my words:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=26609&p=1946376&hilit=Sack#p1946376As I’ve mentioned in the post and at other times, Arteta will probably become a good manager with time but right now he isn’t and a club of our size cannot afford to persist with him until however long it takes for him to become what we need him to be. It’s literally costing us millions!!
Sack him, FFS!! and let him develop elsewhere. If there’s no ill will then we’ll arrange to bring him back again when he’s ready.
But in the meantime bring in someone with experience! The candidate doesn’t need to be someone special. I bet someone like Graham Potter would put Arteta’s best season to shame.
He’s already earned another 3 seasons.
You sound like you think we’re entitled to be in the top 4 (or higher). What do you mean ‘a club of our size’? Fanbase? History? Revenue?
I been reading some of your posts recently and I don’t know if you’re purposely trying to wind people up or you just have blinders on.
Neither.
There’s no entitlement here. Just pure, unadulterated objective analysis.
We had no European football and therefore could focus entirely on the league. FACT.
Your analysis is not close to be objective.
We had the league and two cups to focus on - Not in Europa.... so? If it were as easy to get in the CL as not being in the EL, then it would be rather simple to get back in the CL for everyone.
The top 6 of England are called the top 6 for a reason. These clubs are United, City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Sp*rs, and Arsenal. Their resources indicate that they have the best chance of all other clubs in England to finish in the top 6 more consistently. Recent history reveals that of these 6 clubs City, Liverpool, and Chelsea are nailed on for a top 4 finish every season by most people. This means that the final 4th spot has been a toss-up between United, Arsenal, and Sp*rs over recent years. This season we had no European obligations and no domestic cups midweek to hinder our preparations for the weekend games. Add this to the fact that United and Sp*rs had managerial issues and a more congested schedule, then a reasonable person would assume that we were favorites for the final 4th spot this season.
jayramfootball wrote:
We were eliminated early from all other domestic cups which made focusing on the league even easier. FACT.
Not a fact.
We don't have a history of taking the Carabao cup seriously, so my comment may just as well be considered as FACT. Even though my comment is not technically correct, the domestic cups tend not to conflict with league games so Arteta and company still could focus on the league. That is undeniable
jayramfootball wrote:Arteta has had more than one season to settle in and implement his vision. FACT.
True - but then the real vision for the future really only started at the beginning of this year with the move to completely revamp the squad.
I do think we started too late and should have done it straight after Wenger leaving.
one step forward, two steps back. That is our current trajectory right now. every season we delay the right decisions will only make things more difficult down the line. I am not willing to wait 10 years for success when it can be achieved in 5 or less.
jayramfootball wrote:Arteta and company had the opportunity to address two key weaknesses in our team during the summer which was Xhaka’s position and the ST position but they chose not to. FACT.
Xhaka has been fine - not really a problem.
I would have liked another midfielder and a striker - I also understand that we are rebuilding over more than one summer.
I don't buy thathere was a big clamour for a striker. No one was expecting Auba to be even worse than last year.
We have not qualified for the CL since Xhaka's been here. It's no longer a coincidence anymore.
WRT the striker position. We needed help for Lacazette and it was clear at least to me that Aubameyang was not the answer. Arteta's actions especially in January indicated that there were no other strikers in world football that could do a better job than Nketiah. That train of thought is concerning
jayramfootball wrote:Arteta and company had the opportunity to strengthen again in January but chose not to. FACT.
Not a fact. We tried to to bring in a player who would improve us in January in the ST position and couldn't get it done. It's not that chose not to act.
Even then the ifs buts and maybe's of a whether a new striker would have settled and scored goals immediately is not really something that can be proven.
I am quite pleased we were disciplined enough as a club not to panic and stick with a longer term plan.
Trying and actually fulfilling something are two different things. The fact that Arteta and company bought no strikers in January meant we did not strengthen the striker position. Undeniable FACT
Again the actions of Arteta and company in January reveal that there were no other strikers in world football that could do a better job than Nketiah. Look where that decision has put us.
jayramfootball wrote:Arteta and company let go of players who could have helped us and chose not to replace them entirely or replace them properly. FACT.
I think it was more important to get rid of the older players who had done nothing to get us top 4 in the past.
It's astonishing that we've not been in the top 4 with those players for 6 years, yet some claim they would have got us there.
Its about properly replacing the players you've lost. It's always been. With Wenger in his final years. and now with Arteta. If you can't properly replace players that will help us achieve our objective then you don't let them go. Most of the players we have on loan or sold and did not replace properly could have helped us secure 4th spot. If Arteta could not handle the personalities of these players then that says all you need to know about his management style. Take Pep for instance who's able to keep players likes Jesus, Sterling, Mahrez, and Grealish on the bench with little to no problem. Arteta couldn't do that with the likes of Niles, Guendouzi, and Saliba. That alone is a major red flag.
jayramfootball wrote:The fact of the matter is that a top 4 finish was there for the taking this season and Arteta bottled it.
It was a stretch this year - harder than the last 2 years as both Chelsea and Spurs improved over last season.
It is disappointing that having over achieved to get in a good position we fell at the final hurdle.
But top 5 is our joint highest position for 6 years and we have the advantage of having a much younger and more talented core of players that can take us forward.... with additions coming.
I am positive about the future.
You are free to be afraid and upset all you like.
Assuming Arteta is the one that brings us back to winning major trophies again then I await your told-you-sos. But until then and as far as I am concerned we could have gotten there sooner. Just like it was with Wenger when we could have gotten rid of him sooner, we're now regretting that decision with every passing season. We will always be playing catch-up. and in the process, other clubs will just keep moving further away out of reach or overtake us. Chelsea have been out of reach for many seasons. Sp*rs are pulling away and can consolidate their position now that they have Conte. The likes of Newcastle, West Ham, and Leicester are showing more ambition than we are and it will not be long before they finish above us more consistently the way we're headed