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Re: Arteta Out

Postby 22-0 » Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:50 am

I dunno if im for arteta out yet but he failed to motivate and inspire the players near the end for sure. the players look defeated.
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby Nuggets » Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:58 am

22-0 wrote:I dunno if im for arteta out yet but he failed to motivate and inspire the players near the end for sure. the players look defeated.

It looks like (sadly) he is out of his depth, lost 6 points in the last 3 games and it looks like he has failed to motivate his players, why that is I don't know winning the prem should have been motivation enough. Inexperience showing he has done well don't get me wrong but ????
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby Ach » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:43 am

firfi wrote:"HAHAHAHHAHA" why is anyone even mentioning Arteta out when we're top of the league what is wrong with u guys.Honestly can't remember the last time we we're first in this time of the year.Remember one season where Eduardo broke his leg ,but that was around Boxing day etc.
And You guys are honestly talking about Arteta out?We're having the best season in terms of PL we've had for 19 years.
Hes still learning on the job we can all see that ,but we're first for a reason.

Cos man city have played 2 less games.

As for Arteta out, 6 good months in 3 years isn't good enough. 2 collapses, one eighth place finish, awful in Europe, failed to even qualify for Europe, bang average transfer windows, failed to meet expectations multiple seasons in a row and there's probably more

Granted, the 6 months was awesome and great to watch but it's like game of thrones, awesome for a while, finished shit and that's all people remember

He won't be sacked but if as expected we are nowhere near top 2 next season around Xmas and we've dropped down 5-8th, he's got to go
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby swipe right » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:59 am

It’s not that Arteta failed to motivate the players. This is not about motivation alone. Winning the league is hard. It’s very hard. There’s a reason we haven’t won it in two decades. I just think Arteta didn’t get the transition our playing style and tactics would need to undergo during the last ten games. We are too loose in midfield, the defenses is not getting enough protection and the keepers been taking a few too many chances. We need to be much tighter and more compact at this stage. We should be squeezing out one nils instead of playing champagne football. Dropping two leads and conceding in the first minute have cost us dearly.
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby firfi » Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:28 pm

Whatever u wanna say about Arteta we're challenging actively we have 6 games to go and we're still top of the table.We might not do it and finish second , but we're here and we're challenging the best squad in the history of the league?Give him some credit for that.

Sure hes f***ing up subs a lot he can change stuff at the back to do better , but keep in mind we're top of the table for a reason.
This bottling of the goals that happens in the last 2 season is the reason ,because we lack the exp to win anything or to belief in ourselves that we are the best.
You need to win stuff and be there to have the extra belief you can do it again to have the know how and its not only about the captain and the manager.Vieira was captain for a total of 2 seasons.It was more about the whole structure of the team and the experience they had together and winning stuff beforehand.We don't have that and we really lack experience and it shows.We will be way more experienced next season if we face top4 battle or league challenge for example and things will be different in that term and thats how it goes.
To win a title from 5th place previous season with few transfers and 0 experience beforehand requires a magical season where everything lines up and 0 mistakes are made.
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby UFGN » Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:15 pm

firfi wrote:Whatever u wanna say about Arteta we're challenging actively we have 6 games to go and we're still top of the table.We might not do it and finish second , but we're here and we're challenging the best squad in the history of the league?Give him some credit for that.

Sure hes f***ing up subs a lot he can change stuff at the back to do better , but keep in mind we're top of the table for a reason.
This bottling of the goals that happens in the last 2 season is the reason ,because we lack the exp to win anything or to belief in ourselves that we are the best.
You need to win stuff and be there to have the extra belief you can do it again to have the know how and its not only about the captain and the manager.Vieira was captain for a total of 2 seasons.It was more about the whole structure of the team and the experience they had together and winning stuff beforehand.We don't have that and we really lack experience and it shows.We will be way more experienced next season if we face top4 battle or league challenge for example and things will be different in that term and thats how it goes.
To win a title from 5th place previous season with few transfers and 0 experience beforehand requires a magical season where everything lines up and 0 mistakes are made.


Best squad in the history of the league? Wind your neck in. They're a good squad which happens to have an actual Terminator T1000 playing up front.
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby firfi » Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:20 pm

UFGN wrote:
firfi wrote:Whatever u wanna say about Arteta we're challenging actively we have 6 games to go and we're still top of the table.We might not do it and finish second , but we're here and we're challenging the best squad in the history of the league?Give him some credit for that.

Sure hes f***ing up subs a lot he can change stuff at the back to do better , but keep in mind we're top of the table for a reason.
This bottling of the goals that happens in the last 2 season is the reason ,because we lack the exp to win anything or to belief in ourselves that we are the best.
You need to win stuff and be there to have the extra belief you can do it again to have the know how and its not only about the captain and the manager.Vieira was captain for a total of 2 seasons.It was more about the whole structure of the team and the experience they had together and winning stuff beforehand.We don't have that and we really lack experience and it shows.We will be way more experienced next season if we face top4 battle or league challenge for example and things will be different in that term and thats how it goes.
To win a title from 5th place previous season with few transfers and 0 experience beforehand requires a magical season where everything lines up and 0 mistakes are made.


Best squad in the history of the league? Wind your neck in. They're a good squad which happens to have an actual Terminator T1000 playing up front.


I don't know bro they did reach 100 points which is madness 5 season ago and since then they have lost 1 PL title only and dominated the rest with average of 93 pts +
And now they have the best poacher EVER? probably
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby theHotHead » Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:06 pm

firfi wrote:Whatever u wanna say about Arteta we're challenging actively we have 6 games to go and we're still top of the table.We might not do it and finish second , but we're here and we're challenging the best squad in the history of the league?Give him some credit for that.

Sure hes f***ing up subs a lot he can change stuff at the back to do better , but keep in mind we're top of the table for a reason.
This bottling of the goals that happens in the last 2 season is the reason ,because we lack the exp to win anything or to belief in ourselves that we are the best.
You need to win stuff and be there to have the extra belief you can do it again to have the know how and its not only about the captain and the manager.Vieira was captain for a total of 2 seasons.It was more about the whole structure of the team and the experience they had together and winning stuff beforehand.We don't have that and we really lack experience and it shows.We will be way more experienced next season if we face top4 battle or league challenge for example and things will be different in that term and thats how it goes.
To win a title from 5th place previous season with few transfers and 0 experience beforehand requires a magical season where everything lines up and 0 mistakes are made.

We are not throwing it away because we are bottling it, we are throwing it away because we are making shit decisions and there are no leaders on the pitch.

No Xhaka is not a leader on the pitch and neither is Odegaard. Look who called the huddle when we went 2 goals down yesterday?! Zinchenko. But he isn't someone who I can class as a leader because he makes too many mistakes, if he tried to tell me something I would tell him to shut his mouth and focus on improving his own game!

You need a leader you respect, one who leads by example.
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby firfi » Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:09 pm

theHotHead wrote:
firfi wrote:Whatever u wanna say about Arteta we're challenging actively we have 6 games to go and we're still top of the table.We might not do it and finish second , but we're here and we're challenging the best squad in the history of the league?Give him some credit for that.

Sure hes f***ing up subs a lot he can change stuff at the back to do better , but keep in mind we're top of the table for a reason.
This bottling of the goals that happens in the last 2 season is the reason ,because we lack the exp to win anything or to belief in ourselves that we are the best.
You need to win stuff and be there to have the extra belief you can do it again to have the know how and its not only about the captain and the manager.Vieira was captain for a total of 2 seasons.It was more about the whole structure of the team and the experience they had together and winning stuff beforehand.We don't have that and we really lack experience and it shows.We will be way more experienced next season if we face top4 battle or league challenge for example and things will be different in that term and thats how it goes.
To win a title from 5th place previous season with few transfers and 0 experience beforehand requires a magical season where everything lines up and 0 mistakes are made.

We are not throwing it away because we are bottling it, we are throwing it away because we are making shit decisions and there are no leaders on the pitch.

No Xhaka is not a leader on the pitch and neither is Odegaard. Look who called the huddle when we went 2 goals down yesterday?! Zinchenko. But he isn't someone who I can class as a leader because he makes too many mistakes, if he tried to tell me something I would tell him to shut his mouth and focus on improving his own game!

You need a leader you respect, one who leads by example.


Thats the definition of bottle.Where under pressure you loose points to opponents where if u weren't under pressure u wouldn't lose.
You make shit decisions when ur under pressure because your scared not to lose the title.

We need someone to lift the players for sure and we kinda lack that ,but nobody has won something that matters in this squad and can lead at the same time.Zinchenko and Jesus have won a lot ,but they're not ur leader material and even if they were u need multiple leaders.
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby theHotHead » Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:11 pm

The best Prem teams?
Early Man U team with Kanchelskis and Cantona, then you had the Beckham era crew. Arsenal would be the Overmars team and of course the Invincibles. Blackburn's team was very good. Chelsea under Mourinho with Duff and Robben.

The next great Prem team was Man City with Aguero, then Liverpool with Mane/Firmino/Salah and now this current Man City team.

Which team was the best in the Premier League??
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby firfi » Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:13 pm

theHotHead wrote:The best Prem teams?
Early Man U team with Kanchelskis and Cantona, then you had the Beckham era crew. Arsenal would be the Overmars team and of course the Invincibles. Blackburn's team was very good. Chelsea under Mourinho with Duff and Robben.

The next great Prem team was Man City with Aguero, then Liverpool with Mane/Firmino/Salah and now this current Man City team.

Which team was the best in the Premier League??


Easily the most dominating team our of those is Pep's CIty.Just look at the points accuired and the competitive level of the league right now compared to back in the day even when u consider the 2000s era the level was still a lot lower than it is now.
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby UFGN » Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:20 pm

firfi wrote:
theHotHead wrote:The best Prem teams?
Early Man U team with Kanchelskis and Cantona, then you had the Beckham era crew. Arsenal would be the Overmars team and of course the Invincibles. Blackburn's team was very good. Chelsea under Mourinho with Duff and Robben.

The next great Prem team was Man City with Aguero, then Liverpool with Mane/Firmino/Salah and now this current Man City team.

Which team was the best in the Premier League??


Easily the most dominating team our of those is Pep's CIty.Just look at the points accuired and the competitive level of the league right now compared to back in the day even when u consider the 2000s era the level was still a lot lower than it is now.


Oil is literally used to make plastic.

It is also figuratively used to make plastic ie Manchester City

Good or not, they are only respected by people who don't understand what sport means. f**k city and all their plastic achievements. It doesn't matter how good their results are.
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby firfi » Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:21 pm

UFGN wrote:
firfi wrote:
theHotHead wrote:The best Prem teams?
Early Man U team with Kanchelskis and Cantona, then you had the Beckham era crew. Arsenal would be the Overmars team and of course the Invincibles. Blackburn's team was very good. Chelsea under Mourinho with Duff and Robben.

The next great Prem team was Man City with Aguero, then Liverpool with Mane/Firmino/Salah and now this current Man City team.

Which team was the best in the Premier League??


Easily the most dominating team our of those is Pep's CIty.Just look at the points accuired and the competitive level of the league right now compared to back in the day even when u consider the 2000s era the level was still a lot lower than it is now.


Oil is literally used to make plastic.

It is also figuratively used to make plastic ie Manchester City

Good or not, they are only respected by people who don't understand what sport means. f**k city and all their plastic achievements. It doesn't matter how good their results are.


Pep made them those achievements not the oilers.Man United have spent more money ,but people don't call them oilers.Thats a bit old to call them oilers when we spend the same amount of money as them and the rest of the teams are fighting relatively on the same grounds.
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby UFGN » Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:30 pm

firfi wrote:
UFGN wrote:
firfi wrote:
theHotHead wrote:The best Prem teams?
Early Man U team with Kanchelskis and Cantona, then you had the Beckham era crew. Arsenal would be the Overmars team and of course the Invincibles. Blackburn's team was very good. Chelsea under Mourinho with Duff and Robben.

The next great Prem team was Man City with Aguero, then Liverpool with Mane/Firmino/Salah and now this current Man City team.

Which team was the best in the Premier League??


Easily the most dominating team our of those is Pep's CIty.Just look at the points accuired and the competitive level of the league right now compared to back in the day even when u consider the 2000s era the level was still a lot lower than it is now.


Oil is literally used to make plastic.

It is also figuratively used to make plastic ie Manchester City

Good or not, they are only respected by people who don't understand what sport means. f**k city and all their plastic achievements. It doesn't matter how good their results are.


Pep made them those achievements not the oilers.Man United have spent more money ,but people don't call them oilers.Thats a bit old to call them oilers when we spend the same amount of money as them and the rest of the teams are fighting relatively on the same grounds.


United's money, even the debt element, ultimately came from the club's previous achievements and their fan base

City's current domination has come as a result of recent and extreme financial doping.

Your logic says that a weight lifter can roid up all year then go to the Olympics clean, and win fair medals.
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby firfi » Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:33 pm

UFGN wrote:
firfi wrote:
UFGN wrote:
firfi wrote:
theHotHead wrote:The best Prem teams?
Early Man U team with Kanchelskis and Cantona, then you had the Beckham era crew. Arsenal would be the Overmars team and of course the Invincibles. Blackburn's team was very good. Chelsea under Mourinho with Duff and Robben.

The next great Prem team was Man City with Aguero, then Liverpool with Mane/Firmino/Salah and now this current Man City team.

Which team was the best in the Premier League??


Easily the most dominating team our of those is Pep's CIty.Just look at the points accuired and the competitive level of the league right now compared to back in the day even when u consider the 2000s era the level was still a lot lower than it is now.


Oil is literally used to make plastic.

It is also figuratively used to make plastic ie Manchester City

Good or not, they are only respected by people who don't understand what sport means. f**k city and all their plastic achievements. It doesn't matter how good their results are.


Pep made them those achievements not the oilers.Man United have spent more money ,but people don't call them oilers.Thats a bit old to call them oilers when we spend the same amount of money as them and the rest of the teams are fighting relatively on the same grounds.


United's money, even the debt element, ultimately came from the club's previous achievements and their fan base

City's current domination has come as a result of recent and extreme financial doping.

Your logic says that a weight lifter can roid up all year then go to the Olympics clean, and win fair medals.


Yea i get that they've been doping with oil money early on big time , but u need to have good ownership to do well afterwards.
Just look at Chelsea at the moment they're just throwing money on random places and going nowhere.Thats what i ment when i said they're not doping anymore with oil money and are running the club properly and Pep has been the best manager ever probably and owning the league super hard.
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