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Re: Arteta Out

Postby DiamondGooner » Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:17 pm

If he doesn't figure out how to beat a low block.....which is actually quite simple to improve your chances.

Then what can he do here?

We have a great defence and midfield as far as structure......but our attack against the more and more popular low block then counter approach, then we'll never win the league.

I just find it strange how he sees Liverpool doing it week in week out and he can't spot the main difference of their fast break attacks vs our slowww build up play.
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:19 pm

Zenith wrote:[examples of Arteta admitting mistakes]

↑ 5 minutes of browsing. Not too shabby for a despot who only shifts the blame on his minions. And don't bring out the old straw man this time. No need to demonise the guy when there are plenty of things he could be criticised for: overemphasis on control, the lack of attacking signings, overburdening players until they break and so forth]


Every politician in the world will happily "admit mistakes" for stuff they know the public doesn't hold them responsible for. That looks magnanimous, paternal even. If they admit mistakes about things the public does expect from them, then that's an admission of failure, it's fatal and Arteta will never do that.

Take the Pepe example you cited. Arteta is saying "I'm sorry Pepe is so shit" and not actually admitting any mistakes with his "We all know Nico" comment. He's not taking any responsibility for his performance either, unless the £7m contract termination and subsequent PSR loss somehow didn't land on our books.

Extend this example further with signings like Havertz and Sterling. Ask yourself, is Arteta ever going to admit what a massive fuckup that was? Of course not, he had full control of those decisions. They're "his" players, Pepe and several others were not.

Same with the title. He can't have pithy stock responses ready for the media because he's getting paid too well to handwave away the mounting criticisms .
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby Angelito » Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:49 pm

swipe right wrote:Cesc for Arsenal. Doing wonders at Como. Bring him home.


They've spent way too much for a club of their size. So, it doesn't really say much about Cesc as of now. For all we know, he could be the next Arteta/Pochettino as opposed to Xabi Alonso. That's being optimistic with the little information we have.
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby theHotHead » Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:57 pm

To be fair, this is their first season in Serie A since 2002/03, his most expensive signing is Max Caqueret for €15m. It looks like he has bought almost an entire squad but the individual is purchases have been cheap.

So given that and they are 13th he is not doing too badly at all
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby alexis2015finalgoal » Tue Mar 11, 2025 12:24 pm

Can't even beat a crap Man United!! A draw was a fair result, and they could have won it in the end. They had better chances in the second half even though we scored.

If he loses to either Madrid in the QF, he has to go. If he loses to PSV, then he MUST GO. no way they will score seven to go through!
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby swipe right » Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:45 pm

Newcastle are going to sack Eddie whether or not he wins the league cup. Meanwhile we are trusting Arteta’s damn process. What’s with this stupid club?
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Thu Mar 13, 2025 2:46 pm

swipe right wrote:Newcastle are going to sack Eddie whether or not he wins the league cup. Meanwhile we are trusting Arteta’s damn process. What’s with this stupid club?


It's possible, but it would be a dumb move. PIF wants Mourinho, but he won't be given money to spend because of PSR, and will fall out with half the team. Howe on the other hand has managed to integrate the big money players with Steve Bruce-era players, very few managers can do that.
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby Nuggets » Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:33 pm

swipe right wrote:Newcastle are going to sack Eddie whether or not he wins the league cup. Meanwhile we are trusting Arteta’s damn process. What’s with this stupid club?

How do you know that?
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby swipe right » Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:55 pm

Nuggets wrote:
swipe right wrote:Newcastle are going to sack Eddie whether or not he wins the league cup. Meanwhile we are trusting Arteta’s damn process. What’s with this stupid club?

How do you know that?

Some guy on facebook saying it
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby ag6789 » Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:01 pm

They are owned by the Saudi prince, so nobody can match them financially if they wish to overtake ManCity. Though Howe has been very good and effective for them, but won't be enough if they have lofty ambitions like Etihad guys. Only another Pep will do for them.
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby Ach » Sun Mar 16, 2025 6:43 pm

Would Eddie howe take a step down again to take a club at rock bottom to a trophy?
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby VCC » Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:22 pm

ag6789 wrote:They are owned by the Saudi prince, so nobody can match them financially if they wish to overtake ManCity. Though Howe has been very good and effective for them, but won't be enough if they have lofty ambitions like Etihad guys. Only another Pep will do for them.

And we have idiots thinking we will get Isak, they have waited patiently for the city court case to be completed and they are going to smash the market, they are going to be city on steroids,
Arteta had his chance and what ever you think of the manager he definitely ain't got the street smarts to put a squad together that will compete with these guys because he is no longer going to be shopping near the top table unless the owners dip into pocket again and I think they have seen enough. Once the spine goes to other clubs we will become a mid table team under Arteta.
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby alexis2015finalgoal » Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:56 am

https://x.com/kendallrowanx/status/1901359288204841117

Should have been us.
And let's be honest here - We had 40 shots over both legs vs. Newcastle. with a striker, that Mikel neglected to buy, we could well have got to the final and beat Liverpool.

Win the CL or GET THE f**k OUT.
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby alexis2015finalgoal » Mon Mar 17, 2025 10:26 am

If PSR is changed, though I cannot see it as those that would want it changed would be outvoted by those who don't, then Toon will be a major force. and probably win and challenge like they should have done under Sir John Hall and Sheppard in the 1990s. Even if PSR goes, then UEFA FFP still is in place, so that will still stop them or us or anybody else spending big.

It cannot be that other clubs sack managers regularly, and we don't.
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Re: Arteta Out

Postby swipe right » Mon Mar 17, 2025 6:58 pm

Very funny hearing people claiming we are somehow disadvantaged by not having a middle eastern owner. Our stadium is called the Emirates and our training ground the Sobha Realty Center. Where do you suppose they are from? We spent 700 mil on players in half a decade, and our owner is worth many billions. We are a long way from David Dein and his comment about Russians with cannons. There really is no excuse now.
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