Arteta Out

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For many of AW years there were only 3 decent teams finishing top 4 was a doddle

[Losmeister]

United were favorites for this so all around the result is disappointing but expected.

We're still in a position to fight for top 4 but realistically I think It's a step too far for this squad. Top 6 is where we're at.

Doesn't matter who the favourities were.

Utd had no manager and are behind us in the table, yet they approached the game like we were Southampton.

Every time we fkin scored we backed off like we'd won the game, disgusting, because this is not the first or second time we've done this, we do it every fkin game, score and then protect the lead even when the game is calling for us to be aggressive and dominate.

That is down to the manager.

yeah... it's like watching ur beer go flat

and also... this is the 2nd decade where an away result against any semi-solid team is like mission f***ing impossible...

[Jedi]

@DG the same team with no manager scraped a draw vs the league leaders and CL Champions while we were obliterated by Liverpool so why does it matter? For all I know they're a much better team with Carrick than with Ole.

yeah... it's like watching ur beer go flat

and also... this is the 2nd decade where an away result against any semi-solid team is like mission f***ing impossible...

We literally won this game last season. 1-0 league win at Old Trafford, Auba scored a pen.

[DiamondGooner]

United were favorites for this so all around the result is disappointing but expected.

We're still in a position to fight for top 4 but realistically I think It's a step too far for this squad. Top 6 is where we're at.

Doesn't matter who the favourities were.

Utd had no manager and are behind us in the table, yet they approached the game like we were Southampton.

Every time we fkin scored we backed off like we'd won the game, disgusting, because this is not the first or second time we've done this, we do it every fkin game, score and then protect the lead even when the game is calling for us to be aggressive and dominate.

That is down to the manager.

So Auba being a clown up front - screwing up every opening he had and Partey being a muppet in midfield giving the ball away so often was not their fault.

We had plenty to win the game - or at least get a point - but we had some players who just did not do their jobs and one - Odegaard - who made a crazy decision.

So who's picking Auba to play up front on his own even though he's not a target man CF?

Who's picking the players your criticising?

I said from the off the best we've played is 4-4-2 with Laca starting, Arteta goes and starts doing the 4-2-3-1 Odegaard thing and look where we are.

Yes Ode scored, but he literally cancelled that out with the penalty so if he hadn't of scored and then there was no penalty it'd be no different result wise.

You keep blaming players, well who's picking them.

As I said, in that instance the manager is most important because he literally chooses what players take to the field.

Auba has looked poor, he needs support, what does Arteta do? takes away his best support in Laca.

It was trouble from the kick off and you bloody know it because you agreed with me that Laca should be starting.

Wtf has Odegaard done to bench Laca after a 4 game winning streak since Crytsla Palace?

[Hypergooner]

United were favorites for this so all around the result is disappointing but expected.

We're still in a position to fight for top 4 but realistically I think It's a step too far for this squad. Top 6 is where we're at.

Doesn't matter who the favourities were.

Utd had no manager and are behind us in the table, yet they approached the game like we were Southampton.

Every time we fkin scored we backed off like we'd won the game, disgusting, because this is not the first or second time we've done this, we do it every fkin game, score and then protect the lead even when the game is calling for us to be aggressive and dominate.

That is down to the manager.

So Auba being a clown up front - screwing up every opening he had and Partey being a muppet in midfield giving the ball away so often was not their fault.

We had plenty to win the game - or at least get a point - but we had some players who just did not do their jobs and one - Odegaard - who made a crazy decision.

So who's picking Auba to play up front on his own even though he's not a target man CF?

Who's picking the players your criticising?

I said from the off the best we've played is 4-4-2 with Laca starting, Arteta goes and starts doing the 4-2-3-1 Odegaard thing and look where we are.

Yes Ode scored, but he literally cancelled that out with the penalty so if he hadn't of scored and then there was no penalty it'd be no different result wise.

You keep blaming players, well who's picking them.

As I said, in that instance the manager is most important because he literally chooses what players take to the field.

Auba has looked poor, he needs support, what does Arteta do? takes away his best support in Laca.

It was trouble from the kick off and you bloody know it because you agreed with me that Laca should be starting.

Wtf has Odegaard done to bench Laca after a 4 game winning streak since Crytsla Palace?

Calm down and get some context. Poor result and some poor performances but our season won't be defined by losing a game at old trafford. We still have a chance at top 4 even if this was a set back.
It shouldn't be forgotten that this is the youngest squad in the league. Mistakes are going to happen out of inexperience. They will get older and wiser though if they stay together and they already look pretty strong as a team

[Fran Solo]

United were favorites for this so all around the result is disappointing but expected.

We're still in a position to fight for top 4 but realistically I think It's a step too far for this squad. Top 6 is where we're at.

Doesn't matter who the favourities were.

Utd had no manager and are behind us in the table, yet they approached the game like we were Southampton.

Every time we fkin scored we backed off like we'd won the game, disgusting, because this is not the first or second time we've done this, we do it every fkin game, score and then protect the lead even when the game is calling for us to be aggressive and dominate.

That is down to the manager.

So Auba being a clown up front - screwing up every opening he had and Partey being a muppet in midfield giving the ball away so often was not their fault.

We had plenty to win the game - or at least get a point - but we had some players who just did not do their jobs and one - Odegaard - who made a crazy decision.

So who's picking Auba to play up front on his own even though he's not a target man CF?

Who's picking the players your criticising?

I said from the off the best we've played is 4-4-2 with Laca starting, Arteta goes and starts doing the 4-2-3-1 Odegaard thing and look where we are.

Yes Ode scored, but he literally cancelled that out with the penalty so if he hadn't of scored and then there was no penalty it'd be no different result wise.

You keep blaming players, well who's picking them.

As I said, in that instance the manager is most important because he literally chooses what players take to the field.

Auba has looked poor, he needs support, what does Arteta do? takes away his best support in Laca.

It was trouble from the kick off and you bloody know it because you agreed with me that Laca should be starting.

Wtf has Odegaard done to bench Laca after a 4 game winning streak since Crytsla Palace?

Calm down and get some context. Poor result and some poor performances but our season won't be defined by losing a game at old trafford. We still have a chance at top 4 even if this was a set back.
It shouldn't be forgotten that this is the youngest squad in the league. Mistakes are going to happen out of inexperience. They will get older and wiser though if they stay together and they already look pretty strong as a team

The two worst players in the game were actually the most experienced, Aubameyang and Partey.

[Fran Solo]

The we need a goal but let's pass sideways will never be understandable

Bringing Eddie on lol

Taking ESR off lol

Half fit saka on lol

We pass sideways ,because arteta cannot coach football.In order for us to make attack we need players to move constantly when we're in attack to give multiple options for ppl to pass the ball ,but instead our players stay static and its not possible to get past 2-3 players by urself it takes insane quality to do so and very few ppl in the world have that skillset if any right now.

We actually have a player who has the ability to get past 2-3 players, but Arteta chose to play Nketiah.

[Nuggets]

United were favorites for this so all around the result is disappointing but expected.

We're still in a position to fight for top 4 but realistically I think It's a step too far for this squad. Top 6 is where we're at.

Doesn't matter who the favourities were.

Utd had no manager and are behind us in the table, yet they approached the game like we were Southampton.

Every time we fkin scored we backed off like we'd won the game, disgusting, because this is not the first or second time we've done this, we do it every fkin game, score and then protect the lead even when the game is calling for us to be aggressive and dominate.

That is down to the manager.

So Auba being a clown up front - screwing up every opening he had and Partey being a muppet in midfield giving the ball away so often was not their fault.

We had plenty to win the game - or at least get a point - but we had some players who just did not do their jobs and one - Odegaard - who made a crazy decision.

Who picked those players? Answers on a postcard please

[theHotHead]

The expectation should be top4 easily.
Our squad is not amazing , but he's had 2 years with it and everyone around us on the table is failing hard left right and center and we're not taking advantage of it.

Don’t be silly.

Absolutely the goal should be top 4!!

- 2 years in charge
- No European footie to distract us
- Man U have been dire
- Spurs have been dire
- £250m+ spent in the last 2 seasons

All the reasons why the goal should be top 4!!

[theHotHead]

United were favorites for this so all around the result is disappointing but expected.

We're still in a position to fight for top 4 but realistically I think It's a step too far for this squad. Top 6 is where we're at.

Doesn't matter who the favourities were.

Utd had no manager and are behind us in the table, yet they approached the game like we were Southampton.

Every time we fkin scored we backed off like we'd won the game, disgusting, because this is not the first or second time we've done this, we do it every fkin game, score and then protect the lead even when the game is calling for us to be aggressive and dominate.

That is down to the manager.

So Auba being a clown up front - screwing up every opening he had and Partey being a muppet in midfield giving the ball away so often was not their fault.

We had plenty to win the game - or at least get a point - but we had some players who just did not do their jobs and one - Odegaard - who made a crazy decision.

Lol, when does it become the manager's fault?!!

Why is Auba in such dire form? Why is ESR digging out points and digging us out of holes with his goals? Why does Partey look worse in his second season? Why do we look creatively inept? Why was our AM in the box making sliding tackles?

To me the problem is obvious we look disjointed from midfield up, all over 2 thirds of the pitch. You can look at teams that have players half as good as ours and they are a more cohesive attacking unit than us.

[jayramfootball]

United were favorites for this so all around the result is disappointing but expected.

We're still in a position to fight for top 4 but realistically I think It's a step too far for this squad. Top 6 is where we're at.

Doesn't matter who the favourities were.

Utd had no manager and are behind us in the table, yet they approached the game like we were Southampton.

Every time we fkin scored we backed off like we'd won the game, disgusting, because this is not the first or second time we've done this, we do it every fkin game, score and then protect the lead even when the game is calling for us to be aggressive and dominate.

That is down to the manager.

So Auba being a clown up front - screwing up every opening he had and Partey being a muppet in midfield giving the ball away so often was not their fault.

We had plenty to win the game - or at least get a point - but we had some players who just did not do their jobs and one - Odegaard - who made a crazy decision.

Lol, when does it become the manager's fault?!!

Why is Auba in such dire form? Why is ESR digging out points and digging us out of holes with his goals? Why does Partey look worse in his second season? Why do we look creatively inept? Why was our AM in the box making sliding tackles?

To me the problem is obvious we look disjointed from midfield up, all over 2 thirds of the pitch. You can look at teams that have players half as good as ours and they are a more cohesive attacking unit than us.

Whilst we are doing well, as we are right now, there is no point melting down every time we lose a game.
1 pt off 4th.

[swipe right]

For many of AW years there were only 3 decent teams finishing top 4 was a doddle

So just like this season and the two before it.

[Santi]

The expectation should be top4 easily.
Our squad is not amazing , but he's had 2 years with it and everyone around us on the table is failing hard left right and center and we're not taking advantage of it.

I disagree, people got a bit excited because we’ve fallen into a top 4 chase as we had a good run of fixtures and decent consistency. We do have a chance to sneak in there because West Ham are the main competition but we need to be consistent over a season and we haven’t done that for almost 15 years.

We’re now in the middle of a little tougher run so we’ve only got a shot at top 4 really if we come out of this Christmas period well. I still think the ‘expectation’ should be top 6 though because we will have more tough spells to come and it’s where our squad really belongs even without european distraction.

[Santi]

Top 6 would have been good before the season but not now we've seen the season unfold.

4th is literally there up for grabs and we should be going for it. Anything less is disappointing.

It’s up for grabs yes, but we’d have to keep up the form we saw over that 10 game run or at least have a similar run even just to stay in contention.

People really miss the schedule impact every season - last season we played almost every big team away in the first half of the season and look how f***ked we were. It had an impact on our overall confidence as a team and we had one of the worst spells we’ve ever seen (bar emery). Then in the second half of the season, we got a big result over United and then had a relatively easy run that gave us confidence exactly when we needed it (WBA, Newc etc) so we were able to sustain decent form for a while.

This season we’ve now had our easy spell and that’s why we are currently close to top 4. It’ll still take some improvement to maintain it imo because we have tougher spells coming.

As long as we beat the obviously beatable teams (I.e everyone 9th and below) then we should stay in with a shout but everytime we drop points against one of those teams it needs to be made up somewhere tougher.

[DiamondGooner]

United were favorites for this so all around the result is disappointing but expected.

We're still in a position to fight for top 4 but realistically I think It's a step too far for this squad. Top 6 is where we're at.

Doesn't matter who the favourities were.

Utd had no manager and are behind us in the table, yet they approached the game like we were Southampton.

Every time we fkin scored we backed off like we'd won the game, disgusting, because this is not the first or second time we've done this, we do it every fkin game, score and then protect the lead even when the game is calling for us to be aggressive and dominate.

That is down to the manager.

So Auba being a clown up front - screwing up every opening he had and Partey being a muppet in midfield giving the ball away so often was not their fault.

We had plenty to win the game - or at least get a point - but we had some players who just did not do their jobs and one - Odegaard - who made a crazy decision.

Lol, when does it become the manager's fault?!!

Why is Auba in such dire form? Why is ESR digging out points and digging us out of holes with his goals? Why does Partey look worse in his second season? Why do we look creatively inept? Why was our AM in the box making sliding tackles?

To me the problem is obvious we look disjointed from midfield up, all over 2 thirds of the pitch. You can look at teams that have players half as good as ours and they are a more cohesive attacking unit than us.

Whilst we are doing well, as we are right now, there is no point melting down every time we lose a game.
1 pt off 4th.

If you just keep trying to sweep these performances under the rug the result will be as it always has been ........ we won't get to the position of the table we want.

4th is wide open, in fact at this stage it has our name all over it, but its never going to happen if Arteta doesn't sort out what he's doing with the team offence wise.

Our offence is a shambles and he's actually reversed our progress on his own doing.

We were scoring better with Laca starting, I recall two goals minimum that only came from Laca running into the box and it passed or rebounded to an Arsenal player who scored.

Arteta chose to go back to 4-2-3-1 and as per usual ........... the performance dip follows.

I know how Arteta wants us to play and I don't support it, he's clueless, can't see that our attacking players are all isolated or that Auba isn't a CF.

Need a new manager because we're going to throw 4th away soon.