The Run in and TOP 4

[jayramfootball]

If we start viewing everything through a mathematical possibility then you can argue that we should of come 1st every year since the start of the Premiership ............ I mean, its mathematically possible after all.

But this is why stats and numbers are BS to a certain extent.

Form and realistic chances based on the human element / equation are why we know what is likely to happen despite the numbers.

For us to hit top 4 it would take us basically to win every game left in the season, now we can observe our form, consistency and cohesion of this squad to all know that's its not fkin happening if you want to put it in laymans terms.

Mathematical possibility does not dictate we should come first every year. Merely that we could. Same for every team.

As for winning 10 straight, or 8 or 9, form suggests we couldn't do it. That does not mean it was not possible. It was certainly possible.

[ag6789]

66 pts probably won't get us top 4, besides we still have Everton and Chelsea to counter; and the are rest low table teams. So top 4 is most like out of our grasp at this point.
To get 8 wins out of 8 you need a really motivated bunch, but w/the likes of Auba, Willian, Pepe, Xhaka, Luiz, Leno and Ceb, who have either minds of their own, own sets of agendas or are plain inept, it is a pipe dream. Also, Arteta, is probably not good enough to pull a rabbit out of his hat at this stage

[Power n Glory]

It was a mathematical possibility, but it was never a realistic possibility.

Throughout the season, we have had winless runs punctuated by some wins here and there. Look at the present. We have conceded 7 goals in the past three games and have lost 2/3 games, whilst dropping points in all three games since we beat Spurs.

This is typical for a mid-table side.

If we had a semi-decent manager who was merely unlucky, or got us into such runs due to various factors, then fair enough.

Arteta has proven over and over again that he's a classic mid-table manager for now. We've lost 12 and won 12. We've dropped points in 18 games. That's 60% of the games that we have dropped points in.

At this rate, we're heading towards a points tally of 54 points this season. That's lower than last season. It's the lowest since 94/95.

At the start of next season, it's mathematically possible for us to become Invincibles again with 114 points. That doesn't mean we will.

We won't achieve anything if we're so Goddamn dependent on ESR and Saka every f'kin game.

Good post.

It comes back to questionable man management as well. ESR had to be managed carefully but we played him until he broke down. Same goes for Saka. It looked like we were onto something but we've lost our momentum.

[theHotHead]

Yup and without Saka and ESR to dig him out of a hole Arteta is falling straight back into it, which shouldn't be the case.

[DiamondGooner]

Yup and without Saka and ESR to dig him out of a hole Arteta is falling straight back into it, which shouldn't be the case.

Our emergence from that 8 no win streak was due to ESR, Saka and Martinelli being given a chance and coming into form.

Since they helped stopped the rot, he's banished Martinelli to the bench, pushed out ESR in favor of Odegaard who was supposed to be cover / rotation and Saka's form has dipped also as a result of his running mates being out of the team.

As soon as he had his first opportunity Arteta went straight back to Willian, Auba, Xhaka and now Odegaard.

The man is a trash manager, any manager who is so addicted to medicore players, I just can't support that and feel that he betrayed the youth that fought for him and didn't sulk like the rest of the seniors.

The seniors only started performing when they saw the youth claiming all the victories and having fun.

[Nuggets]

Yup and without Saka and ESR to dig him out of a hole Arteta is falling straight back into it, which shouldn't be the case.

Our emergence from that 8 no win streak was due to ESR, Saka and Martinelli being given a chance and coming into form.

Since they helped stopped the rot, he's banished Martinelli to the bench, pushed out ESR in favor of Odegaard who was supposed to be cover / rotation and Saka's form has dipped also as a result of his running mates being out of the team.

As soon as he had his first opportunity Arteta went straight back to Willian, Auba, Xhaka and now Odegaard.

The man is a trash manager, any manager who is so addicted to medicore players, I just can't support that and feel that he betrayed the youth that fought for him and didn't sulk like the rest of the seniors.

The seniors only started performing when they saw the youth claiming all the victories and having fun.

Well said Bro, sadly some still think he can do the job, he is a walking clusterf*ck

[jayramfootball]

Shame we were so bad vs West Ham for a half and against Liverpool. Shows how quickly things can change and how every result matters.
If we'd have won those games, with other results the way they've gone, we'd be right in the race for 3rd with 6 games left.

[Dejan]

yea thats one big if.

[Yago]

We've been out of the top 4 battle for some time, and those who hadn't realised are fools.

[jayramfootball]

We've been out of the top 4 battle for some time, and those who hadn't realised are fools.

We're still in it, even though it's a long shot.
Win tomorrow and we're 7 points off top 4 with 6 games to play.

[jayramfootball]

It's such a damn shame the club seemed to take the league less seriously than they should have over the last 3 games. All but one half against West Ham was dire.

The thread started off talking about winning 9 of our last 10 - very difficult of course.
However, the last 3 weeks has shown just why every single game is important.

If we had managed to string just 3 wins together in a row over the last 3 games. JUST 3.... we would now be 5th with 6 games to go, just 2 points behind Chelsea with a game to play against them and just 3 points behind 3rd place.

It's now even more difficult to get 4th, but I am still not giving up hope.
Need to win our last 6 games.

[theHotHead]

Well I guess this topic is more relevant now the ESL threat is out the window. But with calling the shots on the field I think there is as much chance of the clubs doing an ESL double U-turn and going for it again.

[Highbury Hillbilly]

We're further away from Top 4 than we were when Emery left. And even then there were 25 matches left in the season.

If we won our next 3 matches, and Chelsea lost their next 3, we'd be level on points. But they'd have a game in hand, and would still be above us in the table unless we win each game 4-0.

[jayramfootball]

Well I guess this topic is more relevant now the ESL threat is out the window. But with calling the shots on the field I think there is as much chance of the clubs doing an ESL double U-turn and going for it again.

It was always unlikely even with 10 games to go, but the last 3 games have REALLY driven home why every game and every point is important.

People were sceptical that we could win 8 in a row, even though it is not at all out of the realms of the possible.
But 3 in a row? Who could claim we couldn't have won 3 in a row - against West Ham, a struggling Liverpool and Fulham??? Of course, we could have.
If we had done so , in just 3 games, 4th place would actually be 100% in our own hands now, not relying on any other team slipping up.

That is how quickly things can change in the PL.

[Dejan]

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