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Re: Fabio Vieira

Postby starmandb » Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:45 am

Highbury Hillbilly wrote:Are we paying £34m for a Saka backup?

His agent is Jorge Mendes, who also helped negotiate the Pepe deal (Pepe has a different agent). Edu about to be taken for a ride again.

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Been a fan a long time and it’s still not my dads shop so I remain a fan not a junior accountant
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Re: Fabio Vieira

Postby dc16 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:46 am

He looks pretty good.
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Re: Fabio Vieira

Postby starmandb » Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:01 am

Ach wrote:
Salibatelli wrote:
Ach wrote:Underwhelming but let's see what he can do

Another sideways pass master isn't needed


I don’t know what to make of this one, seems creative but on the other hand he hasn’t played for Portugal and we signed Tavares from there and he was unknown.

Anyway strange one, wouldn’t have been a priority, hopefully we’ll get some others.

Yeah the not playing for Portugal is a weird one.

At 22 you'd expect some caps.

If he helps creativity and boy does it need help then great.

Striker needed now

Pires was 9 months older when he made his international debut
Gilberto was 24
Lehmann was 28
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Re: Fabio Vieira

Postby 22-0 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:32 am

starmandb wrote:
Ach wrote:
Salibatelli wrote:
Ach wrote:Underwhelming but let's see what he can do

Another sideways pass master isn't needed


I don’t know what to make of this one, seems creative but on the other hand he hasn’t played for Portugal and we signed Tavares from there and he was unknown.

Anyway strange one, wouldn’t have been a priority, hopefully we’ll get some others.

Yeah the not playing for Portugal is a weird one.

At 22 you'd expect some caps.

If he helps creativity and boy does it need help then great.

Striker needed now

Pires was 9 months older when he made his international debut
Gilberto was 24
Lehmann was 28


different times and those players played for stacked countries filled with ridiculous players.

im not saying this guy is bad[not a kid] but certainly a lot of questions and possibly red flags so far.
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Re: Fabio Vieira

Postby starmandb » Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:35 am

Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
Massa wrote:[Starmandb]Squad is God[/starmandb]

Signing this guy and Tielemans and suddenly we are creating alot more goals and we have options to rotate/cover for injuries.

I am just happy we are bringing in quality players to raise the squad level.


We created more goals in a Xhaka-Torreira-Ramsey midfield than we ever have in the Arteta era. Ozil's decline didn't even register if you look at goals scored.

Add up all the missed chances from Auba+Laca last season and we still wouldnt have passed our 2018/19 goal total. The issue isn't the players. And even then, a 22yo brand new to the PL isn't going to move the needle.

When Ramsey torriera and xhaka played together we scored 9 goals in 622 mins
A goal every 70 mins
Under Arteta we have scored 238 goals in 11700 mins
A goal every 50 mins
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Re: Fabio Vieira

Postby starmandb » Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:39 am

22-0 wrote:
starmandb wrote:
Ach wrote:
Salibatelli wrote:
Ach wrote:Underwhelming but let's see what he can do

Another sideways pass master isn't needed


I don’t know what to make of this one, seems creative but on the other hand he hasn’t played for Portugal and we signed Tavares from there and he was unknown.

Anyway strange one, wouldn’t have been a priority, hopefully we’ll get some others.

Yeah the not playing for Portugal is a weird one.

At 22 you'd expect some caps.

If he helps creativity and boy does it need help then great.

Striker needed now

Pires was 9 months older when he made his international debut
Gilberto was 24
Lehmann was 28


different times and those players played for stacked countries filled with ridiculous players.

im not saying this guy is bad[not a kid] but certainly a lot of questions and possibly red flags so far.

They played on a green pitch with a ball and 2 goals
These criticisms should come with facts and a heavy heart not bandied about casually it’s us v them not us v us
Too many fans forget this
Support when you can
Portugal won euro 16 so not some little backwater
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Re: Fabio Vieira

Postby EliteKiller » Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:54 am

starmandb wrote:
22-0 wrote:
starmandb wrote:
Ach wrote:
Salibatelli wrote:
Ach wrote:Underwhelming but let's see what he can do

Another sideways pass master isn't needed


I don’t know what to make of this one, seems creative but on the other hand he hasn’t played for Portugal and we signed Tavares from there and he was unknown.

Anyway strange one, wouldn’t have been a priority, hopefully we’ll get some others.

Yeah the not playing for Portugal is a weird one.

At 22 you'd expect some caps.

If he helps creativity and boy does it need help then great.

Striker needed now

Pires was 9 months older when he made his international debut
Gilberto was 24
Lehmann was 28


different times and those players played for stacked countries filled with ridiculous players.

im not saying this guy is bad[not a kid] but certainly a lot of questions and possibly red flags so far.

They played on a green pitch with a ball and 2 goals
These criticisms should come with facts and a heavy heart not bandied about casually it’s us v them not us v us
Too many fans forget this
Support when you can
Portugal won euro 16 so not some little backwater


Whilst we can all agree that support is a requirement of being a fan, we still need to challenge things that are failing. I believe even the most ardent Wengerite would concede that we supported him for too long, we have stuck by players on massive salaries who ended up pissing on us, and for six years we've lived with a rebuilding / process / project youth all the while seeing our rivals improve.

At some point we need to accept that, what doesn't work simply doesn't work. When City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs finish top four by appointing the best and most experienced managers available - maybe we should think about that. When City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs finish top four each with >300m invested in their strikers and looking for more - maybe we should think about that. When City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs base their defence on 2/3 defensive midfield players and three/four solid centre backs - maybe we should think about that.

Sure there's the "Arsenal Way" and sure we support that - but there is also reality, if you cant beat 'em join 'em - Spurs did, Newcastle and Everton are now trying .... can we really afford to keep dropping further behind?
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Re: Fabio Vieira

Postby starmandb » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:14 am

Absolutely
Valid criticism is always a good thing
Arbitrary moaning about everything is not
The internet and a ray of sunshine will never be mistaken for the same thing
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Doesn’t mean I do not have the desire for us to be the best and win everything
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Re: Fabio Vieira

Postby Est83 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:29 am

Bet you love AFTV starman? ;)
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Re: Fabio Vieira

Postby starmandb » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:39 am

Believe it or not mate. Never watched it
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Re: Fabio Vieira

Postby KG3 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:01 am

Looks like a good player but the only thing I’m worried about will be the balance of the team adding another left footed midfielder to the team


I’d rather have Tielemans for a more balance midfield if it’s between the two, also if this is another AM this basically means Arteta is set on keeping ESR as a LW option only which is a waste imo, he can be used in midfield in the right setup when need be
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Re: Fabio Vieira

Postby KG3 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:06 am

Power n Glory wrote:Unnecessary signing. Odegard doesn't need back up, he needs to be sold if he can't do the job.


Just like last season when we bought white instead of signing a top CF for 50million and using Saliba. we would have comfortable finished in the top 4 that way.

Saliba/Gabriel/Mavropanos/Holding would have been good enough CB options last season.
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Re: Fabio Vieira

Postby Power n Glory » Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:13 am

KG3 wrote:Looks like a good player but the only thing I’m worried about will be the balance of the team adding another left footed midfielder to the team


I’d rather have Tielemans for a more balance midfield if it’s between the two, also if this is another AM this basically means Arteta is set on keeping ESR as a LW option only which is a waste imo, he can be used in midfield in the right setup when need be


Feel the same way. Posted something similar on the Summer Transfer Window thread.
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Re: Fabio Vieira

Postby Reiss » Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:23 am

We're adding Tieleman's and this guy.

We need good quality depth. We have a long slog next season.

Vieira is versatile and very good technically. Welcome signing.
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Re: Fabio Vieira

Postby KG3 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:54 am

Reiss wrote:We're adding Tieleman's and this guy.

We need good quality depth. We have a long slog next season.

Vieira is versatile and very good technically. Welcome signing.


I hope so but you know what we are like always 1-2 players short from what we usually need
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