Unpopular Opinion (Arsenal Edition)

[alexis2015finalgoal]

The theatre or cinema is like 200-1000 people. Big difference can’t expect 60k to all turn up on time.

Why not? For Arsenal, it's better than most other London clubs as there are four TfL stations in walking distance. Spurs and Chelsea dont' have that. Neither does Palace. Most people don't come in late due to transport issues, it's people just milling around in the concourse. And they're a pain the arse, since people have to get up and their view of the game ongoing is f***ked up.

[UFGN]

The club should ban fans from en tering the stands after kick-off.

It's f***ing tiring to have people saying "sorry, mate" or "mind out, mate" or "excuse me, mate" when the match is ongoing. It's interrupting others seeing the game. people don't do that at a cinema or a theatre. and there's no excuse for this, since said people are there in the concourse minutes before kick-off.

Great. You get a job as a steward on minimum wage and enforce it.

I've done so called "shitty" minimum wage jobs and done what's required. That's the case in many "shitty" jobs. and? why should it be different? Your view of the working world is from the 1950s. Maybe contemporise a bit. You probably think most people aren't uni-educated, or mostly work in factories as semi-skilled manual labourers.

It’s a shame you’re not as passionate about the club winning trophies as you are putting the working man in his place and stopping people going for a piss. Why don’t you write to the club about it it

[alexis2015finalgoal]

The club should ban fans from en tering the stands after kick-off.

It's f***ing tiring to have people saying "sorry, mate" or "mind out, mate" or "excuse me, mate" when the match is ongoing. It's interrupting others seeing the game. people don't do that at a cinema or a theatre. and there's no excuse for this, since said people are there in the concourse minutes before kick-off.

Great. You get a job as a steward on minimum wage and enforce it.

I've done so called "shitty" minimum wage jobs and done what's required. That's the case in many "shitty" jobs. and? why should it be different? Your view of the working world is from the 1950s. Maybe contemporise a bit. You probably think most people aren't uni-educated, or mostly work in factories as semi-skilled manual labourers.

It’s a shame you’re not as passionate about the club winning trophies as you are putting the working man in his place and stopping people going for a piss. Why don’t you write to the club about it it

Do you have a job? In any job, it's about doing what's been asked, and doing it to the best of one's ability. You're the one with weird views on the working world. Unless you know my life better than I do, or you assume I gaslight and delude myself. As a teen, i used to stack shelves and slackers were fired. We all earned minimum wage, and this included older people in their 40s also and not just school leavers. As for passion, yes, i continually say on this forum that the owner and manager are wallads. Arteta has to win something soon, and KSE has had 13 years of ownership win a PL and CL and have failed. so both are dickheads and I'll only say different when they win what they've both spent years saying they intend to win.
It's amusing me citing my opinion and calling people out who waltz in at 3.15pm for no good reason is triggering to you.
Oh and go for a piss pre-match. Or maybe get your bladder sorted out. Nobody needs to be a doctor to know that if you empty your bladder at 2.45pm, you shouldn't need to go to another piss at 3.10pm.

People can say what they wish in life. If you don't like it, tough shit. ignore it. or challenge it. you seem like you were raised on some estate in North London where whacking people in the mouth for disagreeing was the norm. I'm amused people merely saying shit bothers you that much. and you're probably older than I am, but I'm clearly far more mature and smarter. and try whacking me in the mouth for saying shit you "don't like". you'd spend months in Dick Whittington.

[theHotHead]

Fan channels are ruining football.
It's allowing literal kids and teenagers with little life experience and dead football knowledge to air the most cringely limited takes out there.

Like DG Sports said earlier this week "Who is better - Emery or Arteta?" Dead debate since Emery has achieved more and is older. It's about clicks and hype for more adsense revenues. AFTV used to be good several years ago, but Wenger left and some of the good regulars (including DT who went to jail briefly) it's declined.

Fan channels do not bother me in the slightest because I don't watch them. I don't see the point in watching them and complaining, nobody is being forced to watch them.

There are fucktards everywhere, this forum has a few, let people have a voice whether we like what they say or not, thats my opinion.

People can say what they want. and if what they say influences others, that's the issue. Fan channels are killing football. This forum doesn't influence millions online with retarded opinions and cringeness that facilitates KSE doing nonsense. opinions don't exist in vaccuums and people can respond to opinions with their own views.

Its not an issue !!

Unless there is a law where people are no longer allowed to have a voice people should do what they want. From the dawn of "communication", neanderthals developing primitive communication, people have influenced others, you can't stop it and neither should you.

It is an issue. Literally millions of people per year, or month even watch them, and they cloud football discourse online. And it's f***ing cringe. saying it's not an issue is pretty f***ing blinded. Your point is illogical. people can influence others. and? people can respond to said influences. pepel can call them out. as i am doing. You're making lots of illogical leaps. So by your own logic, let's let fans in grounds punch each other. Because violence is part of life, so anything that's part of life we have to accept and never mitigate hahahaahaha. typical church/mosque logic!!!

What are you on ?!!!!

Letting people have an opinion is nothing like letting people have a punch up!

[UFGN]

The club should ban fans from en tering the stands after kick-off.

It's f***ing tiring to have people saying "sorry, mate" or "mind out, mate" or "excuse me, mate" when the match is ongoing. It's interrupting others seeing the game. people don't do that at a cinema or a theatre. and there's no excuse for this, since said people are there in the concourse minutes before kick-off.

Great. You get a job as a steward on minimum wage and enforce it.

I've done so called "shitty" minimum wage jobs and done what's required. That's the case in many "shitty" jobs. and? why should it be different? Your view of the working world is from the 1950s. Maybe contemporise a bit. You probably think most people aren't uni-educated, or mostly work in factories as semi-skilled manual labourers.

It’s a shame you’re not as passionate about the club winning trophies as you are putting the working man in his place and stopping people going for a piss. Why don’t you write to the club about it it

Do you have a job? In any job, it's about doing what's been asked, and doing it to the best of one's ability. You're the one with weird views on the working world. Unless you know my life better than I do, or you assume I gaslight and delude myself. As a teen, i used to stack shelves and slackers were fired. We all earned minimum wage, and this included older people in their 40s also and not just school leavers. As for passion, yes, i continually say on this forum that the owner and manager are wallads. Arteta has to win something soon, and KSE has had 13 years of ownership win a PL and CL and have failed. so both are dickheads and I'll only say different when they win what they've both spent years saying they intend to win.
It's amusing me citing my opinion and calling people out who waltz in at 3.15pm for no good reason is triggering to you.
Oh and go for a piss pre-match. Or maybe get your bladder sorted out. Nobody needs to be a doctor to know that if you empty your bladder at 2.45pm, you shouldn't need to go to another piss at 3.10pm.

People can say what they wish in life. If you don't like it, tough shit. ignore it. or challenge it. you seem like you were raised on some estate in North London where whacking people in the mouth for disagreeing was the norm. I'm amused people merely saying shit bothers you that much. and you're probably older than I am, but I'm clearly far more mature and smarter. and try whacking me in the mouth for saying shit you "don't like". you'd spend months in Dick Whittington.

I really don’t know why my answer to this was deleted but, anyway, you’re just ranting a load of incoherent, irrelevant bs.

[KG3]

A lot of the players during our worst period were actually good players in a bad team/wrong system.

Gervinho is on the same level as Doku, only difference is the quality of the teams they played for.

Andre Santos was considered a flop, now someone with the same skill set now would have Pep and Arteta in a bidding war, the type of inverted fullback they love.

I could go on forever with other examples but I’m sure you all get my point.

[ag6789]

Gervinho was inconsistent and didn't have any end product; Santos had 0 defensive skills. That's why they flopped in PL.

[UFGN]

A lot of the players during our worst period were actually good players in a bad team/wrong system.

Gervinho is on the same level as Doku, only difference is the quality of the teams they played for.

Andre Santos was considered a flop, now someone with the same skill set now would have Pep and Arteta in a bidding war, the type of inverted fullback they love.

I could go on forever with other examples but I’m sure you all get my point.

I think this is copium

If a lot of them were good, the team would have been better. If what you assert is true then it only points the finger at one man and that’s Wenger. Either he bought good players but lacked the tactical ability to get the best out of them, or he bought poor quality players and stuck with them because he couldn’t accept they were shit and he would never, ever just do the obvious thing. Like for example buy a left back that could defend.

The players were shit because Wenger bought dross and stuck with them to prove his frugality and er, superior whateverbollocks.

It was a horrible, depressing time for the club and I’m glad he’s gone and those players are forgotten, as they deserve to be.

[KG3]

Gervinho was inconsistent and didn't have any end product; Santos had 0 defensive skills. That's why they flopped in PL.

Would you say Doku is consistent with good end product?

You could say the same thing about Trent, Cancelo, Zinchenko (Man city) having zero defensive skills, difference is they played well drilled teams which dominated possession so they rarely got caught out

[alexis2015finalgoal]

Having a decades-old youth system is as much a curse as a blessing. Any youth baller with a little bit of promise is overhyped.

Does that Frimpong DENCH geezer still play football? What about Medley, Patino, Vela, etc? None have reached a decent level. That said, Nwaneri looks like he can be good.

A historically good youth system also pressures managers and the club to play youth, even if they are mid. Nketiah and Nelson were mid, let's be frank. Having a productive youth system is a positive, but not every new forward is going to be the next late Campbell, Merson, or Saka. Not every promising defender will be the next Tony Adams or Keown. It's partly why Man United is in the shit - McTominay was never it. Tuanzebe, Chong, Williams, etc. were never going to be at the level. Though Mainoo looks good tbf.

[ag6789]

It is understood that only 10% of academy players will make it in the Premier League,and even smaller number will break into Arsenal team.
Whole bunch of them are plying their trade in different leagues at different levels.
It is always good to have a strong academy. In fact, players like Iwobi, Willock, Emiliano Martinez, Maitland-Niles,not to speak of ESR, Nelson, Nktiah shows how good our academy is.
If we can keep producing the likes of Fabregas, Saka, Ramsey, Bellerin Wilshere, over a period of 12-15 years, the academy should be considered very productive and supportive of the first squad. That's what it is there for primarily.

[alexis2015finalgoal]

It is understood that only 10% of academy players will make it in the Premier League,and even smaller number will break into Arsenal team.
Whole bunch of them are plying their trade in different leagues at different levels.
It is always good to have a strong academy. In fact, players like Iwobi, Willock, Emiliano Martinez, Maitland-Niles,not to speak of ESR, Nelson, Nktiah shows how good our academy is.
If we can keep producing the likes of Fabregas, Saka, Ramsey, Bellerin Wilshere, over a period of 12-15 years, the academy should be considered very productive and supportive of the first squad. That's what it is there for primarily.

Cesc was from Barca. Ramsey was from Cardiff for an actual transfer fee. But the players you mentioned bar Martinez reference my point. Most of them are average ballers at best. We shouldn't be forced to give any youth a chance just because blooding in youth is what we do.

[theHotHead]

It is understood that only 10% of academy players will make it in the Premier League,and even smaller number will break into Arsenal team.
Whole bunch of them are plying their trade in different leagues at different levels.
It is always good to have a strong academy. In fact, players like Iwobi, Willock, Emiliano Martinez, Maitland-Niles,not to speak of ESR, Nelson, Nktiah shows how good our academy is.
If we can keep producing the likes of Fabregas, Saka, Ramsey, Bellerin Wilshere, over a period of 12-15 years, the academy should be considered very productive and supportive of the first squad. That's what it is there for primarily.

Cesc was from Barca. Ramsey was from Cardiff for an actual transfer fee. But the players you mentioned bar Martinez reference my point. Most of them are average ballers at best. We shouldn't be forced to give any youth a chance just because blooding in youth is what we do.

In our 2003/4 Unbeaten season we had 5 academy players in the squad that got Prem time.

In our 2001/02 title winning season we had 6 academy players in the squad that got Prem game time.

In our 1997/98 title winning season we had 9 academy players in the squad that got Prem game time.

In our 1990/91 title winning season we had 9 academy players in the squad that got Division 1 game time.

Your suggestion that the academy is overrated is nonsense. If we win the league this season, with only 9 games played there are 4 players that have gotten Prem game time that came through the academy !

[alexis2015finalgoal]

We're not winning the league this season. We'll probably finish third at best.
And yes, I stand that because we have produced lots of good young players, that's a blessing and a curse. the curse being we play too many youngsters who'll never be at the level needed because we always want the new Saka, Brady, O'Leary or Adams.

[Nuggets]

Sadly we will end up with sweet FA this season again.