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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby jayramfootball » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:13 pm

Alexis wrote:
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dc16 wrote:The least of our worries.


Given we spent 45m on him, it's a real worry.
It's looking like we got duped again.


meh game, some good moments, some shite. he's had an interrupted season with injuries.

had fuk all injuries at atletico and suddenly comes here and starts racking them up.

45m is just about right price in current super inflated market. ateltico fans on reddit valued him around 80m+.

he was really crucial for them which is why they were pissed off at how 'cheap' he went for.

No he was bloody awful tonight - worse than I ever saw Xhaka play.
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby Alexis » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:18 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
Alexis wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
dc16 wrote:The least of our worries.


Given we spent 45m on him, it's a real worry.
It's looking like we got duped again.


meh game, some good moments, some shite. he's had an interrupted season with injuries.

had fuk all injuries at atletico and suddenly comes here and starts racking them up.

45m is just about right price in current super inflated market. ateltico fans on reddit valued him around 80m+.

he was really crucial for them which is why they were pissed off at how 'cheap' he went for.

No he was bloody awful tonight - worse than I ever saw Xhaka play.


no chance, xhaka has had some of the worst game i've ever seen by an arsenal player. fukin squillaci played better overall
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby Jack The Ripper » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:34 pm

Too slow on the ball, constantly giving it away.
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby KG3 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:51 pm

We need to sort the midfield out next season, Partey doesn’t contribute to goals/assists so it’s better to use him for his defensive abilities, we need to upgrade on Xhaka the question is do we go for a B2B type like Ramsey or a DLP like Cazorla?


For now I’d really like to see this midfield in action


—————-Partey——————

ESR—————————Odeegard/Ceballos

Guarantee you we’d build attacks much better, create more and Partey can focus on doing what he did best for athletic madrid
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby Nejch » Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:23 pm

I have doubts about players from teams who perform well because their manager is brilliant and they set up well as a whole. Take a good looking player out of there and there's no guarantee he'll be of the same quality in another team.
Partey has been subpar so far, been especially poor today and hasn't yet justified even a third of his price tag.
It's amazing how we've spent 120 millon on 2 players and have almost nothing to show for it.
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby EliteKiller » Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:48 am

KG3 wrote:We need to sort the midfield out next season, Partey doesn’t contribute to goals/assists so it’s better to use him for his defensive abilities, we need to upgrade on Xhaka the question is do we go for a B2B type like Ramsey or a DLP like Cazorla?


For now I’d really like to see this midfield in action


—————-Partey——————

ESR—————————Odeegard/Ceballos

Guarantee you we’d build attacks much better, create more and Partey can focus on doing what he did best for athletic madrid


Playing just one defensive midfield player would be a slaughter ... even Shef Utd would score 3/4 ... our defence is weak enough with a double-pivot midfield shield, play Partey alone and with his worrying inability to read the game we would be massacred.

He played OK last night against a team that applied almost no pressure, that was fine at AM however the EPL is a very different animal. So far he has not adapted well to the speed and constant pressure, it's his first season so he will learn, he certainly needs to.
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby swipe right » Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:04 am

Ozil was a great player but then he became lazy and had to go.
Saliba was considered Europe’s best young defender but he needed a transition.
Auba was scoring for fun at every club he was at and then he just got shit all of a sudden.
Partey was a standout performer in Madrid but in London he’s just mediocre.

Always the players. Never the manager.
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby EliteKiller » Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:28 am

swipe right wrote:Ozil was a great player but then he became lazy and had to go.
Saliba was considered Europe’s best young defender but he needed a transition.
Auba was scoring for fun at every club he was at and then he just got shit all of a sudden.
Partey was a standout performer in Madrid but in London he’s just mediocre.

Always the players. Never the manager.


That's because it's the players on the pitch -
Ozil WAS a great player three years ago, now he can't even make it in Turkey.
Saliba has never managed 20 games a season at any club, he is a prospect nothing more.
Auba has got old, like 99% of players that's what happens when you get passed thirty, your desire and capability decrease.
Partey is struggling in a far tougher league - give him time to adjust - but you're right standout against poor opposition does not guarantee anything.

But hey blame the manager - Wenger failed got sacked - Ljunberg no chance - Emery failed got sacked - Arteta is failing and according to you needs sacking .... yup all these managers are to blame it's never the players, are you sure?
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby gamechannel » Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:46 am

EliteKiller wrote:
swipe right wrote:Ozil was a great player but then he became lazy and had to go.
Saliba was considered Europe’s best young defender but he needed a transition.
Auba was scoring for fun at every club he was at and then he just got shit all of a sudden.
Partey was a standout performer in Madrid but in London he’s just mediocre.

Always the players. Never the manager.


That's because it's the players on the pitch -
Ozil WAS a great player three years ago, now he can't even make it in Turkey.
Saliba has never managed 20 games a season at any club, he is a prospect nothing more.
Auba has got old, like 99% of players that's what happens when you get passed thirty, your desire and capability decrease.
Partey is struggling in a far tougher league - give him time to adjust - but you're right standout against poor opposition does not guarantee anything.

But hey blame the manager - Wenger failed got sacked - Ljunberg no chance - Emery failed got sacked - Arteta is failing and according to you needs sacking .... yup all these managers are to blame it's never the players, are you sure?


Except a lot of the same shitty players were not around during Wenger or Emerys time. This is definitely on the manager. No one can tell me we have a 10th place worthy squad. We have a 10th place worthy manager though.
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby EliteKiller » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:26 am

gamechannel wrote:Except a lot of the same shitty players were not around during Wenger or Emerys time. This is definitely on the manager. No one can tell me we have a 10th place worthy squad. We have a 10th place worthy manager though.


The manager is an inexperienced fool appointed way above his ability so far .... but

We are not far off 10th place squad .... City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Utd clearly better Spurs, Everton, Leicester arguably better, Aston Villa, West Ham pretty similar.

Forbes give us the 7th rated squad in terms of value closer to 10th than 4th, so financially our squad isn't all that ... the EPL table has us 10th so statistically our squad ain't all that .... if this were a one-off aberration of a season then fair enough, but last year's 8th says it isn't.

We may not be the 10th rated squad in the EPL but don't kid yourself we are nowhere near the top four whoever the manager may be.
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby swipe right » Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:44 am

EliteKiller wrote:
gamechannel wrote:Except a lot of the same shitty players were not around during Wenger or Emerys time. This is definitely on the manager. No one can tell me we have a 10th place worthy squad. We have a 10th place worthy manager though.


The manager is an inexperienced fool appointed way above his ability so far .... but

We are not far off 10th place squad .... City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Utd clearly better Spurs, Everton, Leicester arguably better, Aston Villa, West Ham pretty similar.

Forbes give us the 7th rated squad in terms of value closer to 10th than 4th, so financially our squad isn't all that ... the EPL table has us 10th so statistically our squad ain't all that .... if this were a one-off aberration of a season then fair enough, but last year's 8th says it isn't.

We may not be the 10th rated squad in the EPL but don't kid yourself we are nowhere near the top four whoever the manager may be.

You’re having a laugh.
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby starmandb » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:04 am

Alexis wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Alexis wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
dc16 wrote:The least of our worries.


Given we spent 45m on him, it's a real worry.
It's looking like we got duped again.


meh game, some good moments, some shite. he's had an interrupted season with injuries.

had fuk all injuries at atletico and suddenly comes here and starts racking them up.

45m is just about right price in current super inflated market. ateltico fans on reddit valued him around 80m+.

he was really crucial for them which is why they were pissed off at how 'cheap' he went for.

No he was bloody awful tonight - worse than I ever saw Xhaka play.


no chance, xhaka has had some of the worst game i've ever seen by an arsenal player. fukin squillaci played better overall

No he didnt overall
And in particular 11/12
Poor in the 3-1 defeat at olympiakos
Beyond poor at Sunderland in the fa cup where he was subbed on and off
And at Fulham where he came on with us 1-0 up after djourou got sent off with 9 minutes to go and we lost 2-1
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby EliteKiller » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:10 am

swipe right wrote:
EliteKiller wrote:
gamechannel wrote:Except a lot of the same shitty players were not around during Wenger or Emerys time. This is definitely on the manager. No one can tell me we have a 10th place worthy squad. We have a 10th place worthy manager though.


The manager is an inexperienced fool appointed way above his ability so far .... but

We are not far off 10th place squad .... City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Utd clearly better Spurs, Everton, Leicester arguably better, Aston Villa, West Ham pretty similar.

Forbes give us the 7th rated squad in terms of value closer to 10th than 4th, so financially our squad isn't all that ... the EPL table has us 10th so statistically our squad ain't all that .... if this were a one-off aberration of a season then fair enough, but last year's 8th says it isn't.

We may not be the 10th rated squad in the EPL but don't kid yourself we are nowhere near the top four whoever the manager may be.

You’re having a laugh.


why? look at the table for the last two seasons ... not so funny then is it?
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby swipe right » Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:14 pm

EliteKiller wrote:
swipe right wrote:
EliteKiller wrote:
gamechannel wrote:Except a lot of the same shitty players were not around during Wenger or Emerys time. This is definitely on the manager. No one can tell me we have a 10th place worthy squad. We have a 10th place worthy manager though.


The manager is an inexperienced fool appointed way above his ability so far .... but

We are not far off 10th place squad .... City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Utd clearly better Spurs, Everton, Leicester arguably better, Aston Villa, West Ham pretty similar.

Forbes give us the 7th rated squad in terms of value closer to 10th than 4th, so financially our squad isn't all that ... the EPL table has us 10th so statistically our squad ain't all that .... if this were a one-off aberration of a season then fair enough, but last year's 8th says it isn't.

We may not be the 10th rated squad in the EPL but don't kid yourself we are nowhere near the top four whoever the manager may be.

You’re having a laugh.


why? look at the table for the last two seasons ... not so funny then is it?

Look at our managers for the last two seasons. That’s a better reason why they finish above us with worse squads.
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby jayramfootball » Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:24 pm

swipe right wrote:
EliteKiller wrote:
swipe right wrote:
EliteKiller wrote:
gamechannel wrote:Except a lot of the same shitty players were not around during Wenger or Emerys time. This is definitely on the manager. No one can tell me we have a 10th place worthy squad. We have a 10th place worthy manager though.


The manager is an inexperienced fool appointed way above his ability so far .... but

We are not far off 10th place squad .... City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Utd clearly better Spurs, Everton, Leicester arguably better, Aston Villa, West Ham pretty similar.

Forbes give us the 7th rated squad in terms of value closer to 10th than 4th, so financially our squad isn't all that ... the EPL table has us 10th so statistically our squad ain't all that .... if this were a one-off aberration of a season then fair enough, but last year's 8th says it isn't.

We may not be the 10th rated squad in the EPL but don't kid yourself we are nowhere near the top four whoever the manager may be.

You’re having a laugh.


why? look at the table for the last two seasons ... not so funny then is it?

Look at our managers for the last two seasons. That’s a better reason why they finish above us with worse squads.


No. A manager can not make average players top 4 players.
You are denial about the quality of our players compared to clubs like Leicester.
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