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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby theHotHead » Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:59 pm

Would help if Arteta didn't rush him back to games before he was fit. He has to because the team is playing poorly. All on Arteta.
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby Jack The Ripper » Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:06 pm

Well who would have thought it? another injury? whoopppdeedooo

Medical bills will be through the roof with this guy.
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby EliteKiller » Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:08 pm

theHotHead wrote:Would help if Arteta didn't rush him back to games before he was fit. He has to because the team is playing poorly. All on Arteta.


You can blame Arteta but this is a player who when we signed him "plays every minute of every game" the EPL is a graveyard for players who build their reputation on physicality over everything else .... he needs time to adjust, but without him we revert to spineless .... tough call for any manager.
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby DiamondGooner » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:33 pm

The real issue is .............

Arteta keeps rushing him back because Partey is the only one who makes Xhaka look half decent.

That's the real reason Arteta would play him even with a dead leg.
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby VCC » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:49 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:The real issue is .............

Arteta keeps rushing him back because Partey is the only one who makes Xhaka look half decent.

That's the real reason Arteta would play him even with a dead leg.

Rushing him back aside
Our club seem to tolerate these guys falling like they are shot every time they are touched, sometimes they are in a possition to really matter but would rather have a free kick even on the half way line, it's a culture!.
It's a soft underbelly that over flows onto the medical table.
I actually think we have become a club of soft cocks, no f***ing backbone, I have worked my whole life in pain. They cant handle 90mins
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby Goonerfromafrica » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:59 pm

VCC wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:The real issue is .............

Arteta keeps rushing him back because Partey is the only one who makes Xhaka look half decent.

That's the real reason Arteta would play him even with a dead leg.

Rushing him back aside
Our club seem to tolerate these guys falling like they are shot every time they are touched, sometimes they are in a possition to really matter but would rather have a free kick even on the half way line, it's a culture!.
It's a soft underbelly that over flows onto the medical table.
I actually think we have become a club of soft cocks, no f***ing backbone, I have worked my whole life in pain. They cant handle 90mins


Agreed. Its cool to be injured at Arsenal.
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby Power n Glory » Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:36 pm

Mitch wrote:
Power n Glory wrote:
Mitch wrote:It's clear he's not 100% fit but we keep insisting on playing him. Give him a rest for 2-3 weeks, give him a chance to recover properly, then bring him back in. Otherwise we risk a long term injury.


Wouldn't that also fall under Arteta's responsibility if he's not fully fit?


Without Partey we look a lot worse. We can't afford to drop points, that's the problem.


But isn’t that short term thinking? What if he now misses the next 4 or 5 games because we couldn't rest him for 1? If he isn't fully in the clear with his injury then we just have to manage it better. Maybe give him 60 minutes a game and sub him off.
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby EliteKiller » Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:49 am

Power n Glory wrote:But isn’t that short term thinking? What if he now misses the next 4 or 5 games because we couldn't rest him for 1? If he isn't fully in the clear with his injury then we just have to manage it better. Maybe give him 60 minutes a game and sub him off.


Maybe but you pay a player to play - Messi, Ronaldo, KdB, Kane - they all play until they break then play again as soon as fit - it's what they get the big bucks for. Wrapping players in cotton wool (dare I say Ozil) very rarely works any better. More players are injured in training than on the pitch.

No players shouldn't be played when injured, but as most are slightly injured most of the time, where do you draw the line?
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby Interest: waning » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:38 am

f**k this cripple.

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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby Ach » Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:15 am

Not getting doucoure over this dude continues to haunt us
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby Power n Glory » Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:29 am

EliteKiller wrote:
Power n Glory wrote:But isn’t that short term thinking? What if he now misses the next 4 or 5 games because we couldn't rest him for 1? If he isn't fully in the clear with his injury then we just have to manage it better. Maybe give him 60 minutes a game and sub him off.


Maybe but you pay a player to play - Messi, Ronaldo, KdB, Kane - they all play until they break then play again as soon as fit - it's what they get the big bucks for. Wrapping players in cotton wool (dare I say Ozil) very rarely works any better. More players are injured in training than on the pitch.

No players shouldn't be played when injured, but as most are slightly injured most of the time, where do you draw the line?


You're mentioning teams that have stronger back up options and it's still short term thinking. You draw the line when most of your best players are out injured and the back ups are putting in poor performances.
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby Power n Glory » Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:17 am

Mitch wrote:
Power n Glory wrote:
Mitch wrote:
Power n Glory wrote:
Mitch wrote:It's clear he's not 100% fit but we keep insisting on playing him. Give him a rest for 2-3 weeks, give him a chance to recover properly, then bring him back in. Otherwise we risk a long term injury.


Wouldn't that also fall under Arteta's responsibility if he's not fully fit?


Without Partey we look a lot worse. We can't afford to drop points, that's the problem.


But isn’t that short term thinking? What if he now misses the next 4 or 5 games because we couldn't rest him for 1? If he isn't fully in the clear with his injury then we just have to manage it better. Maybe give him 60 minutes a game and sub him off.


It's a tough decision. I'm just pointing out why Arteta is playing him.


It's a tough call but fixtures are congested this year. There hasn't been a preseason because of Covid and he's new to the league. He picked up an injury scare vs Southampton and came off but came back to play against Utd and has played 3 games in a week. We're gonna crock a few more players at this rate.
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby EliteKiller » Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:40 am

Power n Glory wrote:
Mitch wrote:It's a tough call but fixtures are congested this year. There hasn't been a preseason because of Covid and he's new to the league. He picked up an injury scare vs Southampton and came off but came back to play against Utd and has played 3 games in a week. We're gonna crock a few more players at this rate.


Yup but we're not alone - watch spurs rush back Kane - it's probably why City will win the title, strength in depth in a massively busy season.
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby Power n Glory » Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:53 am

Mitch wrote:
Power n Glory wrote:
Mitch wrote:
Power n Glory wrote:
Mitch wrote:
Power n Glory wrote:
Mitch wrote:It's clear he's not 100% fit but we keep insisting on playing him. Give him a rest for 2-3 weeks, give him a chance to recover properly, then bring him back in. Otherwise we risk a long term injury.


Wouldn't that also fall under Arteta's responsibility if he's not fully fit?


Without Partey we look a lot worse. We can't afford to drop points, that's the problem.


But isn’t that short term thinking? What if he now misses the next 4 or 5 games because we couldn't rest him for 1? If he isn't fully in the clear with his injury then we just have to manage it better. Maybe give him 60 minutes a game and sub him off.


It's a tough decision. I'm just pointing out why Arteta is playing him.


It's a tough call but fixtures are congested this year. There hasn't been a preseason because of Covid and he's new to the league. He picked up an injury scare vs Southampton and came off but came back to play against Utd and has played 3 games in a week. We're gonna crock a few more players at this rate.


Yep but the problem is our next option is Elneny.


Yep or Ceballos and neither really work in a double pivot with Xhaka as partner. Other option is to finally play the 4-3-3 he says he wants to play and go with Odegaard, Xhaka and ESR as the three.
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Re: Thomas Partey (18)

Postby Power n Glory » Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:00 am

Mitch wrote:That would leave us way too open with ESR and Odegaard bombing forward.


If he plays Xhaka as the DM, yeah it will leave us a bit exposed but for some reason he's first choice. But being so conservative hasn't served us well. We concede anyway and don't have the attack to strike back. Also, all three in midfield should still have to work hard to defend. If Arteta says 4-3-3 is what he wants to play, he might as well teach them now instead of trying to readjust next season.
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