Wanted Arteta over Carlo at the time for reasons I've already stated. Hasn't really worked out so far.
Rockape wrote:He's being outperformed by Moyes too.....who'd have thought that at the start of the season with the team West Ham have. No question from any of us that we have to improve and keep improving, but there just isn't any point in shouting for Arteta's head at the moment, because it just isn't going to happen.
Except Moyes isn't the most successful UCL manager of all time alongside being one of the best modern-day managers.
theHotHead wrote:I think whats more alarming is the fact that some Arsenal fans EXPECT Arteta to get this grace period and, others have pointed to this being a substantial period of rebuilding at the club and that Arteta is here for the medium to long term. This flummoxes me completely. Surely the same was true for Emery, after all, the club were in decline and the spectre of Wenger was all over the club, surely his appointment was the one that should have been medium to long term, to rebuild the club and the toxic environment after Wenger left.
But Emery was sacked not even halfway through his second season because results were seemingly not good enough. If that was the case for Emery - a proven manager and coach - why on earth is it not true for Arteta also who is a rookie? What credentials does Arteta have that allows him to get more leeway than an experienced manager, especially when you consider we are in a worse position than Emery ever put us in ?!
Makes no sense to me.
I wanted Arsenal to hire Arteta over Emery when it came down to the two of them. In hindsight, it would have been a better time for Arteta to take over.
If Unai had half the charisma of Klopp and was half as eloquent, he would still be here, I feel. Unai lost the dressing room, so he had to go. He was also out of depth here.
It's rumored that Mislintat was the only one who didn't want us to hire either Emery or Arteta. Emery's experience and his EL record is what tilted it in favor of Unai. Gazidis had his eyes set on Arteta. Sanllehi actually wanted Enrique but Lucho told them that we needed a squad overhaul, whilst Emery sold them on improving existing players and incorporating youth. He did fulfill the latter promise.
All hearsay though.
It's surprising nonetheless. Both Tuchel and Conte were available that summer. Conte has a history of punching above his weight and Tuchel plays a high-press, attacking game. Those two would have been obvious contenders.
When Unai was sacked, Josh was involved in a more hands-on capacity with Sanllehi in hiring Arteta. Unless and until Arteta loses the dressing room, I can't see him departing.
Even if we spend £150-200m in the summer, and still find ourselves struggling to challenge for top-4, Arteta will remain Arsenal manager until the start of 22/23 at the very least.