Is the Invincibles record under threat?

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Re: Is the Invincibles record under threat?

Postby Nuggets » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:02 am

elkanofan wrote:We lost our unbeaten run to a top United side who cheated us with that Rooney dive for that penalty.

Liverpool got battered by a relegation fodder team 3-0! Literally outplayed and destroyed by a team 19th in the table!

and people tell me football isn't going downhill?

Like i said, the Gods of football did us all a favor today, not just our Arsenal fans for our 49 unbeaten record and invincible season but for the good of the game and quality football.

Maybe Watford sent the football gods a couple satoshi's to make this happen. who knows. Just make sure whoever is at the grove, whatever the scoreline is never ever, ever stop singing.

49! 49 UNDEFEATED!!! To those scousers when they come. :)

Lets not forget the fact we are celebrating so much sums up how shit we are right now :rofll: we have our own house to fix!

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Re: Is the Invincibles record under threat?

Postby Goonerz » Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:00 am

We own the only GOLDEN EPL TROPHY.
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Re: Is the Invincibles record under threat?

Postby theHotHead » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:19 am

Arguing with my mates, I don't rate this Liverpool team as highly as I rated the Fergie and Chelsea title winning teams we battled with when Wenger was good. This Liverpool team have players that would've just about made the bench in those teams!!
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Re: Is the Invincibles record under threat?

Postby Losmeister » Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:18 pm

elkanofan wrote:
Lets not forget the fact we are celebrating so much sums up how shit we are right now :rofll: we have our own house to fix!


being reduced to schadenfreude is a bunch of bolloks! :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:
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Re: Is the Invincibles record under threat?

Postby elkanofan » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:37 am

Losmeister wrote:
elkanofan wrote:
Lets not forget the fact we are celebrating so much sums up how shit we are right now :rofll: we have our own house to fix!


being reduced to schadenfreude is a bunch of bolloks! :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:


Perfect word there. schadenfreude

The banter for me has already ended, now Liverpool despite yesterday will go back to laughing about how shit we are and being 40 points ahead of us.

Claude while always negative is 110% correct here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eteXOkF-WUI
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Re: Is the Invincibles record under threat?

Postby Rockape » Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:03 am

There has been considerable revisionism about Arsenal’s Invincibles. Too many draws, not enough points, apparently. Over time the achievement of Arsene Wenger’s 2003-04 team has been slowly diminished.
So events at Vicarage Road at least restored balance. It was a feat, unparalleled, since the days of bare-knuckle fighting and Vincent van Gogh. A team as great as Jurgen Klopp’s Liverpool could not pull it off.
They might win every match from here, record the greatest points total in English football history, but they couldn’t go a season without losing. Arsenal remain alone, in the modern era. That still means something. That should never be disparaged.

It was Sir Alex Ferguson, naturally, who started it. ‘Too many draws,’ he would sneer. And, yes, there were quite a few. Arsenal drew 12 matches of 38, which was double the number of Manchester United in that campaign. But United lost nine times.
So it turns out drawing isn’t always that easy, or invincibility would be commonplace. And Arsenal won plenty, too. The second-best team that season were Chelsea — and Arsenal beat them home and away.
They were 11 points clear by the end, the second highest winning margin in 19 years, only eclipsed by Manchester United in 1999-2000. But United lost three times that season. It’s not easy staying unbeaten.

True, the last three titles have been won with a points total greater than the Invincibles’ 90, including Manchester City becoming the first to three figures in 2017-18. Yet in the 10 seasons before that, nobody had topped Arsenal. Indeed, in the era of three points for a win just seven champions in 38 have exceeded 90 points.
Nor did Arsenal have it all their own way. On the first day of the season, they went down to 10 men against Everton when Sol Campbell was sent off after 25 minutes, but won.
They also recorded wins from losing positions against Tottenham, Liverpool and Leicester at home, and Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea away. They came back to draw against Portsmouth twice and Charlton. This was a gutsy team. The comeback victory over Leicester was on the final day of the season when the crown of invincibility seemed about to slip. Paul Dickov put Leicester ahead, Arsenal found a way to win.

And they did so at a time when football had never been faster or more athletically demanding. Preston’s Invincibles of 1888-89 didn’t have to deal with a crossbar or any pitch markings bar the centre line.
Their goalkeeper could handle the ball anywhere on the pitch and was given to putting up an umbrella when it rained. Arsenal had to resist the remains of Manchester United’s Treble-winners and the prototype of Mourinho’s Chelsea. They had to overcome teams inspired by John Terry, Steven Gerrard and Roy Keane.
They never had to play at Vicarage Road, but other trips were no less daunting. And they didn’t lose. Not once. It has taken Watford to remind us what an achievement that was.
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Re: Is the Invincibles record under threat?

Postby theHotHead » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:17 pm

Rockape wrote:There has been considerable revisionism about Arsenal’s Invincibles. Too many draws, not enough points, apparently. Over time the achievement of Arsene Wenger’s 2003-04 team has been slowly diminished.
So events at Vicarage Road at least restored balance. It was a feat, unparalleled, since the days of bare-knuckle fighting and Vincent van Gogh. A team as great as Jurgen Klopp’s Liverpool could not pull it off.
They might win every match from here, record the greatest points total in English football history, but they couldn’t go a season without losing. Arsenal remain alone, in the modern era. That still means something. That should never be disparaged.

It was Sir Alex Ferguson, naturally, who started it. ‘Too many draws,’ he would sneer. And, yes, there were quite a few. Arsenal drew 12 matches of 38, which was double the number of Manchester United in that campaign. But United lost nine times.
So it turns out drawing isn’t always that easy, or invincibility would be commonplace. And Arsenal won plenty, too. The second-best team that season were Chelsea — and Arsenal beat them home and away.
They were 11 points clear by the end, the second highest winning margin in 19 years, only eclipsed by Manchester United in 1999-2000. But United lost three times that season. It’s not easy staying unbeaten.

True, the last three titles have been won with a points total greater than the Invincibles’ 90, including Manchester City becoming the first to three figures in 2017-18. Yet in the 10 seasons before that, nobody had topped Arsenal. Indeed, in the era of three points for a win just seven champions in 38 have exceeded 90 points.
Nor did Arsenal have it all their own way. On the first day of the season, they went down to 10 men against Everton when Sol Campbell was sent off after 25 minutes, but won.
They also recorded wins from losing positions against Tottenham, Liverpool and Leicester at home, and Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea away. They came back to draw against Portsmouth twice and Charlton. This was a gutsy team. The comeback victory over Leicester was on the final day of the season when the crown of invincibility seemed about to slip. Paul Dickov put Leicester ahead, Arsenal found a way to win.

And they did so at a time when football had never been faster or more athletically demanding. Preston’s Invincibles of 1888-89 didn’t have to deal with a crossbar or any pitch markings bar the centre line.
Their goalkeeper could handle the ball anywhere on the pitch and was given to putting up an umbrella when it rained. Arsenal had to resist the remains of Manchester United’s Treble-winners and the prototype of Mourinho’s Chelsea. They had to overcome teams inspired by John Terry, Steven Gerrard and Roy Keane.
They never had to play at Vicarage Road, but other trips were no less daunting. And they didn’t lose. Not once. It has taken Watford to remind us what an achievement that was.

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Re: Is the Invincibles record under threat?

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:11 pm

Rockape wrote:There has been considerable revisionism about Arsenal’s Invincibles. Too many draws, not enough points, apparently. Over time the achievement of Arsene Wenger’s 2003-04 team has been slowly diminished.
So events at Vicarage Road at least restored balance. It was a feat, unparalleled, since the days of bare-knuckle fighting and Vincent van Gogh. A team as great as Jurgen Klopp’s Liverpool could not pull it off.
They might win every match from here, record the greatest points total in English football history, but they couldn’t go a season without losing. Arsenal remain alone, in the modern era. That still means something. That should never be disparaged.

It was Sir Alex Ferguson, naturally, who started it. ‘Too many draws,’ he would sneer. And, yes, there were quite a few. Arsenal drew 12 matches of 38, which was double the number of Manchester United in that campaign. But United lost nine times.
So it turns out drawing isn’t always that easy, or invincibility would be commonplace. And Arsenal won plenty, too. The second-best team that season were Chelsea — and Arsenal beat them home and away.
They were 11 points clear by the end, the second highest winning margin in 19 years, only eclipsed by Manchester United in 1999-2000. But United lost three times that season. It’s not easy staying unbeaten.

True, the last three titles have been won with a points total greater than the Invincibles’ 90, including Manchester City becoming the first to three figures in 2017-18. Yet in the 10 seasons before that, nobody had topped Arsenal. Indeed, in the era of three points for a win just seven champions in 38 have exceeded 90 points.
Nor did Arsenal have it all their own way. On the first day of the season, they went down to 10 men against Everton when Sol Campbell was sent off after 25 minutes, but won.
They also recorded wins from losing positions against Tottenham, Liverpool and Leicester at home, and Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea away. They came back to draw against Portsmouth twice and Charlton. This was a gutsy team. The comeback victory over Leicester was on the final day of the season when the crown of invincibility seemed about to slip. Paul Dickov put Leicester ahead, Arsenal found a way to win.

And they did so at a time when football had never been faster or more athletically demanding. Preston’s Invincibles of 1888-89 didn’t have to deal with a crossbar or any pitch markings bar the centre line.
Their goalkeeper could handle the ball anywhere on the pitch and was given to putting up an umbrella when it rained. Arsenal had to resist the remains of Manchester United’s Treble-winners and the prototype of Mourinho’s Chelsea. They had to overcome teams inspired by John Terry, Steven Gerrard and Roy Keane.
They never had to play at Vicarage Road, but other trips were no less daunting. And they didn’t lose. Not once. It has taken Watford to remind us what an achievement that was.


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Re: Is the Invincibles record under threat?

Postby Rockape » Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:12 pm

I'd just like to say I copied and pasted that from the Mail online! :redface:

(didn't think anyone would think I wrote it! :lol: )
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Re: Is the Invincibles record under threat?

Postby Arsenal Tone » Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:22 pm

Rockape wrote:I'd just like to say I copied and pasted that from the Mail online! :redface:

(didn't think anyone would think I wrote it! [emoji38] )

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