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Re: William Saliba (on loan - OGC Nice)

Postby swipe right » Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:03 am

Santi wrote:
Zenith wrote:Gave the ball away cheaply which lead to Rennes' equaliser; a fine long-distance strike by Terrier. Saliba had been okay up until that point but going by his reaction you could tell he was frustrated with himself.

Stream - http://liveonscore.tv/soccer-streams/li ... treams.net


So, form so far suggests he is a good prospect with mistakes in his locker. Looks like Mikel was right and better he learn away from the pressure cooker that is Arsenal FC.

Time will only tell but it's good for him to get games either way, doesn't mean there isn't also some issue between Arteta and Saliba but people talk as if prime Cannavaro was sitting in our reserves.

Why did we pay 30 mil for him?
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Re: William Saliba (on loan - OGC Nice)

Postby jayramfootball » Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:51 am

Santi wrote:
Zenith wrote:Gave the ball away cheaply which lead to Rennes' equaliser; a fine long-distance strike by Terrier. Saliba had been okay up until that point but going by his reaction you could tell he was frustrated with himself.

Stream - http://liveonscore.tv/soccer-streams/li ... treams.net


So, form so far suggests he is a good prospect with mistakes in his locker. Looks like Mikel was right and better he learn away from the pressure cooker that is Arsenal FC.

Time will only tell but it's good for him to get games either way, doesn't mean there isn't also some issue between Arteta and Saliba but people talk as if prime Cannavaro was sitting in our reserves.


I don't know about a prime Cannavaro, but a prime Ravioli would be better than Holding.
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Re: William Saliba (on loan - OGC Nice)

Postby Phil71 » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:03 am

swipe right wrote:
Santi wrote:
Zenith wrote:Gave the ball away cheaply which lead to Rennes' equaliser; a fine long-distance strike by Terrier. Saliba had been okay up until that point but going by his reaction you could tell he was frustrated with himself.

Stream - http://liveonscore.tv/soccer-streams/li ... treams.net


So, form so far suggests he is a good prospect with mistakes in his locker. Looks like Mikel was right and better he learn away from the pressure cooker that is Arsenal FC.

Time will only tell but it's good for him to get games either way, doesn't mean there isn't also some issue between Arteta and Saliba but people talk as if prime Cannavaro was sitting in our reserves.

Why did we pay 30 mil for him?


Why did we pay similar for Mustafi?
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Re: William Saliba (on loan - OGC Nice)

Postby theHotHead » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:11 am

Santi wrote:
Zenith wrote:Gave the ball away cheaply which lead to Rennes' equaliser; a fine long-distance strike by Terrier. Saliba had been okay up until that point but going by his reaction you could tell he was frustrated with himself.

Stream - http://liveonscore.tv/soccer-streams/li ... treams.net


So, form so far suggests he is a good prospect with mistakes in his locker. Looks like Mikel was right and better he learn away from the pressure cooker that is Arsenal FC.

Time will only tell but it's good for him to get games either way, doesn't mean there isn't also some issue between Arteta and Saliba but people talk as if prime Cannavaro was sitting in our reserves.

Your description describes a lot of our current players so they should ALL be shipped out on loan. Leno, Bellerin, Luiz, Gabriel, Ceballos, Xhaka, they have all made big mistakes this season. Saliba won't learn how to play in the Premier League by playing Ligue 1 football! And before someone chimes in with taking risks playing him at Arsenal, don't let me remind you of the bigger risk the club has already taken, with a rookie manager learning on the job!
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Re: William Saliba (on loan - OGC Nice)

Postby theHotHead » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:13 am

Phil71 wrote:
swipe right wrote:
Santi wrote:
Zenith wrote:Gave the ball away cheaply which lead to Rennes' equaliser; a fine long-distance strike by Terrier. Saliba had been okay up until that point but going by his reaction you could tell he was frustrated with himself.

Stream - http://liveonscore.tv/soccer-streams/li ... treams.net


So, form so far suggests he is a good prospect with mistakes in his locker. Looks like Mikel was right and better he learn away from the pressure cooker that is Arsenal FC.

Time will only tell but it's good for him to get games either way, doesn't mean there isn't also some issue between Arteta and Saliba but people talk as if prime Cannavaro was sitting in our reserves.

Why did we pay 30 mil for him?


Why did we pay similar for Mustafi?

We paid the money and played the player, thats what you do when you pay good money for a player.
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Re: William Saliba (on loan - OGC Nice)

Postby Power n Glory » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:14 am

theHotHead wrote:
Santi wrote:
Zenith wrote:Gave the ball away cheaply which lead to Rennes' equaliser; a fine long-distance strike by Terrier. Saliba had been okay up until that point but going by his reaction you could tell he was frustrated with himself.

Stream - http://liveonscore.tv/soccer-streams/li ... treams.net


So, form so far suggests he is a good prospect with mistakes in his locker. Looks like Mikel was right and better he learn away from the pressure cooker that is Arsenal FC.

Time will only tell but it's good for him to get games either way, doesn't mean there isn't also some issue between Arteta and Saliba but people talk as if prime Cannavaro was sitting in our reserves.

Your description describes a lot of our current players so they should ALL be shipped out on loan. Leno, Bellerin, Luiz, Gabriel, Ceballos, Xhaka, they have all made big mistakes this season. Saliba won't learn how to play in the Premier League by playing Ligue 1 football! And before someone chimes in with taking risks playing him at Arsenal, don't let me remind you of the bigger risk the club has already taken, with a rookie manager learning on the job!
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Re: William Saliba (on loan - OGC Nice)

Postby Phil71 » Sat Feb 27, 2021 8:52 am

theHotHead wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
swipe right wrote:
Santi wrote:
Zenith wrote:Gave the ball away cheaply which lead to Rennes' equaliser; a fine long-distance strike by Terrier. Saliba had been okay up until that point but going by his reaction you could tell he was frustrated with himself.

Stream - http://liveonscore.tv/soccer-streams/li ... treams.net


So, form so far suggests he is a good prospect with mistakes in his locker. Looks like Mikel was right and better he learn away from the pressure cooker that is Arsenal FC.

Time will only tell but it's good for him to get games either way, doesn't mean there isn't also some issue between Arteta and Saliba but people talk as if prime Cannavaro was sitting in our reserves.

Why did we pay 30 mil for him?


Why did we pay similar for Mustafi?

We paid the money and played the player, thats what you do when you pay good money for a player.


And how great he turned out to be.

It's like buying a car then realising it's a death trap, but driving it anyway because after all - you bought it.
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Re: William Saliba (on loan - OGC Nice)

Postby swipe right » Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:03 am

Phil71 wrote:
swipe right wrote:
Santi wrote:
Zenith wrote:Gave the ball away cheaply which lead to Rennes' equaliser; a fine long-distance strike by Terrier. Saliba had been okay up until that point but going by his reaction you could tell he was frustrated with himself.

Stream - http://liveonscore.tv/soccer-streams/li ... treams.net


So, form so far suggests he is a good prospect with mistakes in his locker. Looks like Mikel was right and better he learn away from the pressure cooker that is Arsenal FC.

Time will only tell but it's good for him to get games either way, doesn't mean there isn't also some issue between Arteta and Saliba but people talk as if prime Cannavaro was sitting in our reserves.

Why did we pay 30 mil for him?


Why did we pay similar for Mustafi?

Because StatDNA
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Re: William Saliba (on loan - OGC Nice)

Postby theHotHead » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:00 am

Phil71 wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
swipe right wrote:
Santi wrote:
Zenith wrote:Gave the ball away cheaply which lead to Rennes' equaliser; a fine long-distance strike by Terrier. Saliba had been okay up until that point but going by his reaction you could tell he was frustrated with himself.

Stream - http://liveonscore.tv/soccer-streams/li ... treams.net


So, form so far suggests he is a good prospect with mistakes in his locker. Looks like Mikel was right and better he learn away from the pressure cooker that is Arsenal FC.

Time will only tell but it's good for him to get games either way, doesn't mean there isn't also some issue between Arteta and Saliba but people talk as if prime Cannavaro was sitting in our reserves.

Why did we pay 30 mil for him?


Why did we pay similar for Mustafi?

We paid the money and played the player, thats what you do when you pay good money for a player.


And how great he turned out to be.

It's like buying a car then realising it's a death trap, but driving it anyway because after all - you bought it.

I get the example but this is as much about risk analysis as it is protecting your investment. Him playing in Ligue 1 gives us nothing, he would be better off playing U23s footie in England! Giving him game time in the English Prem would be a risk but I already addressed that, the club took a bigger risk when they appointed Arteta!
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Re: William Saliba (on loan - OGC Nice)

Postby DiamondGooner » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:05 am

swipe right wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
swipe right wrote:
Santi wrote:
Zenith wrote:Gave the ball away cheaply which lead to Rennes' equaliser; a fine long-distance strike by Terrier. Saliba had been okay up until that point but going by his reaction you could tell he was frustrated with himself.

Stream - http://liveonscore.tv/soccer-streams/li ... treams.net


So, form so far suggests he is a good prospect with mistakes in his locker. Looks like Mikel was right and better he learn away from the pressure cooker that is Arsenal FC.

Time will only tell but it's good for him to get games either way, doesn't mean there isn't also some issue between Arteta and Saliba but people talk as if prime Cannavaro was sitting in our reserves.

Why did we pay 30 mil for him?


Why did we pay similar for Mustafi?

Because StatDNA


The dumb thing about picking players on stats is stats don't take into account character, maturity, fight, not even actual skill level.

It only shows, goals, pass completion, ground covered etc.

It doesn't even take into account the level of opposition, which is why using stats, Nketiah looks like prime Ronaldo R9, because they're using goal stats from him playing fkin farmers and infants.
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Re: William Saliba (on loan - OGC Nice)

Postby DiamondGooner » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:10 am

Phil71 wrote:
Santi wrote:
Zenith wrote:Gave the ball away cheaply which lead to Rennes' equaliser; a fine long-distance strike by Terrier. Saliba had been okay up until that point but going by his reaction you could tell he was frustrated with himself.

Stream - http://liveonscore.tv/soccer-streams/li ... treams.net


So, form so far suggests he is a good prospect with mistakes in his locker. Looks like Mikel was right and better he learn away from the pressure cooker that is Arsenal FC.

Time will only tell but it's good for him to get games either way, doesn't mean there isn't also some issue between Arteta and Saliba but people talk as if prime Cannavaro was sitting in our reserves.


Spot on.


The most worrying thing for me isn't the mistakes in his locker because you expect that from any young player ............ its his attitude, which clearly sucks.

Off the pitch all I've seen from this d*ck head is him taking shots at Arteta because he hurt his French ego and him casually sitting beside a team mate while he's naked having a wank and thinking filming it and putting it on Snapchat would be a good idea.

So the latter is my concern for his future here, I can't see how Arteta will let this slide unless some clear the air talks are held and Saliba gets his head down.
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Re: William Saliba (on loan - OGC Nice)

Postby Phil71 » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:23 am

theHotHead wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
swipe right wrote:
Santi wrote:
Zenith wrote:Gave the ball away cheaply which lead to Rennes' equaliser; a fine long-distance strike by Terrier. Saliba had been okay up until that point but going by his reaction you could tell he was frustrated with himself.

Stream - http://liveonscore.tv/soccer-streams/li ... treams.net


So, form so far suggests he is a good prospect with mistakes in his locker. Looks like Mikel was right and better he learn away from the pressure cooker that is Arsenal FC.

Time will only tell but it's good for him to get games either way, doesn't mean there isn't also some issue between Arteta and Saliba but people talk as if prime Cannavaro was sitting in our reserves.

Why did we pay 30 mil for him?


Why did we pay similar for Mustafi?

We paid the money and played the player, thats what you do when you pay good money for a player.


And how great he turned out to be.

It's like buying a car then realising it's a death trap, but driving it anyway because after all - you bought it.

I get the example but this is as much about risk analysis as it is protecting your investment. Him playing in Ligue 1 gives us nothing, he would be better off playing U23s footie in England! Giving him game time in the English Prem would be a risk but I already addressed that, the club took a bigger risk when they appointed Arteta!


There must have been some reasoning behind sending him back to Ligue 1. Probably because the club didn't think his head was straight and wanted to send him back home to help with that.

If his head was straight and he was playing better it would be better for him to play for a PL team on loan. But none will take him while he's playing as he is.

It sounds like he's having to work his arse off in defence at Nice, so that's one good thing. Gives him a chance to practice his individual game.
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Re: William Saliba (on loan - OGC Nice)

Postby starmandb » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:31 am

DiamondGooner wrote:
swipe right wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
swipe right wrote:
Santi wrote:
Zenith wrote:Gave the ball away cheaply which lead to Rennes' equaliser; a fine long-distance strike by Terrier. Saliba had been okay up until that point but going by his reaction you could tell he was frustrated with himself.

Stream - http://liveonscore.tv/soccer-streams/li ... treams.net


So, form so far suggests he is a good prospect with mistakes in his locker. Looks like Mikel was right and better he learn away from the pressure cooker that is Arsenal FC.

Time will only tell but it's good for him to get games either way, doesn't mean there isn't also some issue between Arteta and Saliba but people talk as if prime Cannavaro was sitting in our reserves.

Why did we pay 30 mil for him?


Why did we pay similar for Mustafi?

Because StatDNA


The dumb thing about picking players on stats is stats don't take into account character, maturity, fight, not even actual skill level.

It only shows, goals, pass completion, ground covered etc.

It doesn't even take into account the level of opposition, which is why using stats, Nketiah looks like prime Ronaldo R9, because they're using goal stats from him playing fkin farmers and infants.

Richarlison is a 59 million pound farmer ?
The youngest average age of a team he scored against is 24
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Re: William Saliba (on loan - OGC Nice)

Postby Santi » Sat Feb 27, 2021 12:00 pm

theHotHead wrote:
Santi wrote:
Zenith wrote:Gave the ball away cheaply which lead to Rennes' equaliser; a fine long-distance strike by Terrier. Saliba had been okay up until that point but going by his reaction you could tell he was frustrated with himself.

Stream - http://liveonscore.tv/soccer-streams/li ... treams.net


So, form so far suggests he is a good prospect with mistakes in his locker. Looks like Mikel was right and better he learn away from the pressure cooker that is Arsenal FC.

Time will only tell but it's good for him to get games either way, doesn't mean there isn't also some issue between Arteta and Saliba but people talk as if prime Cannavaro was sitting in our reserves.

Your description describes a lot of our current players so they should ALL be shipped out on loan. Leno, Bellerin, Luiz, Gabriel, Ceballos, Xhaka, they have all made big mistakes this season. Saliba won't learn how to play in the Premier League by playing Ligue 1 football! And before someone chimes in with taking risks playing him at Arsenal, don't let me remind you of the bigger risk the club has already taken, with a rookie manager learning on the job!


Gabriel hasn’t had any huge mistakes and the difference is none of those lads are 19.


Leno and Gabriel aside I’d happily see the back of your list, difference with Saliba is he has time to learn and improve...just not here where any mistake he’d get internet raped.
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Re: William Saliba (on loan - OGC Nice)

Postby DiamondGooner » Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:31 pm

starmandb wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
swipe right wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
swipe right wrote:
Santi wrote:
Zenith wrote:Gave the ball away cheaply which lead to Rennes' equaliser; a fine long-distance strike by Terrier. Saliba had been okay up until that point but going by his reaction you could tell he was frustrated with himself.

Stream - http://liveonscore.tv/soccer-streams/li ... treams.net


So, form so far suggests he is a good prospect with mistakes in his locker. Looks like Mikel was right and better he learn away from the pressure cooker that is Arsenal FC.

Time will only tell but it's good for him to get games either way, doesn't mean there isn't also some issue between Arteta and Saliba but people talk as if prime Cannavaro was sitting in our reserves.

Why did we pay 30 mil for him?


Why did we pay similar for Mustafi?

Because StatDNA


The dumb thing about picking players on stats is stats don't take into account character, maturity, fight, not even actual skill level.

It only shows, goals, pass completion, ground covered etc.

It doesn't even take into account the level of opposition, which is why using stats, Nketiah looks like prime Ronaldo R9, because they're using goal stats from him playing fkin farmers and infants.

Richarlison is a 59 million pound farmer ?
The youngest average age of a team he scored against is 24


Thats nowhere near in context.

The bulk of the goals used to prop up his numbers are actually from the youth team so how is that an average age of 24 ffs??

So if your using goals taken from the Prem only ......... how many goals are we talking, what's his prem league goal total?

because if its just 5-7 goals or so then what you've said is meaningless, because people are taking those 5-7 goals and tacking that on to the 20 goals he's scored in the youth tournaments which was my point.

Anyone can just throw around numbers, a little context is needed.

Fkin Richarlison, so if someone scores one goal against Barca and that's it for their whole career does that mean they're at Messi's level??

That's a silly example and again without context.
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