by alexafc12 » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:27 pm
by Highbury Hillbilly » Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:21 pm
by jayramfootball » Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:26 pm
Highbury Hillbilly wrote:We need to think about selling Saliba this summer, because otherwise we risk losing him for nothing, as has become common under Edu + Arteta.
This scenario is all too likely:
- He returns to Arsenal in the summer, deal talks pushed to end of the season
- Spends most of the season on the bench behind BW and GM and some MLS CB
- 1 year left, no new deal signed, not allowed to leave for another club, all bids rejected
- Allowed to leave in Jan for £5m or thereabouts
by Salibatelli » Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:27 pm
alexafc12 wrote:2 years left on his deal in the summer. Even if he's now in our plans can we convince him to extend his deal ?
by Ach » Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:34 pm
alexafc12 wrote:2 years left on his deal in the summer. Even if he's now in our plans can we convince him to extend his deal ?
by Salibatelli » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:01 pm
Ach wrote:alexafc12 wrote:2 years left on his deal in the summer. Even if he's now in our plans can we convince him to extend his deal ?
Would you sign one knowing how you've been treated by an idiotic manager?
Fofana comes in at an similar age and excels at premier League level. Saliba rated higher than him not given a chance at all. Excels on multiple loans and we buy Brighton's third best CB for 50m.
by jayramfootball » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:02 pm
Salibatelli wrote:Ach wrote:alexafc12 wrote:2 years left on his deal in the summer. Even if he's now in our plans can we convince him to extend his deal ?
Would you sign one knowing how you've been treated by an idiotic manager?
Fofana comes in at an similar age and excels at premier League level. Saliba rated higher than him not given a chance at all. Excels on multiple loans and we buy Brighton's third best CB for 50m.
Saliva wasn’t too young and was good enough, we know this from Fofana at Leicester who as you rightly pointed out wasn’t as highly rated and was the same age and did very well at Leicester.
This theory that he wasn’t good enough is just used to try and find a reason as to why he was sent out on loan and never played.
by Ach » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:05 pm
Salibatelli wrote:Ach wrote:alexafc12 wrote:2 years left on his deal in the summer. Even if he's now in our plans can we convince him to extend his deal ?
Would you sign one knowing how you've been treated by an idiotic manager?
Fofana comes in at an similar age and excels at premier League level. Saliba rated higher than him not given a chance at all. Excels on multiple loans and we buy Brighton's third best CB for 50m.
Saliva wasn’t too young and was good enough, we know this from Fofana at Leicester who as you rightly pointed out wasn’t as highly rated and was the same age and did very well at Leicester.
This theory that he wasn’t good enough is just used to try and find a reason as to why he was sent out on loan and never played.
by Salibatelli » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:06 pm
jayramfootball wrote:Salibatelli wrote:Ach wrote:alexafc12 wrote:2 years left on his deal in the summer. Even if he's now in our plans can we convince him to extend his deal ?
Would you sign one knowing how you've been treated by an idiotic manager?
Fofana comes in at an similar age and excels at premier League level. Saliba rated higher than him not given a chance at all. Excels on multiple loans and we buy Brighton's third best CB for 50m.
Saliva wasn’t too young and was good enough, we know this from Fofana at Leicester who as you rightly pointed out wasn’t as highly rated and was the same age and did very well at Leicester.
This theory that he wasn’t good enough is just used to try and find a reason as to why he was sent out on loan and never played.
Fofana is a different human being - not sure if you'd noticed.
by jayramfootball » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:06 pm
by Salibatelli » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:09 pm
jayramfootball wrote:Easy transfer policy - just buy 18 year old players from the same country as one who is highly rated.
Job done.
by jayramfootball » Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:10 pm
Salibatelli wrote:jayramfootball wrote:Salibatelli wrote:Ach wrote:alexafc12 wrote:2 years left on his deal in the summer. Even if he's now in our plans can we convince him to extend his deal ?
Would you sign one knowing how you've been treated by an idiotic manager?
Fofana comes in at an similar age and excels at premier League level. Saliba rated higher than him not given a chance at all. Excels on multiple loans and we buy Brighton's third best CB for 50m.
Saliva wasn’t too young and was good enough, we know this from Fofana at Leicester who as you rightly pointed out wasn’t as highly rated and was the same age and did very well at Leicester.
This theory that he wasn’t good enough is just used to try and find a reason as to why he was sent out on loan and never played.
Fofana is a different human being - not sure if you'd noticed.
Yes and he got a chance and excelled meanwhile at Arsenal some novice with next to no experience at management decides Saliba isn’t good enough without even giving him a shot in real top level matches.
There’s no way Arteta could have worked out he’s not good enough based on some friendly level games when the guy had only just arrived at Arsenal.
by Salibatelli » Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:40 pm
by jayramfootball » Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:11 pm
Salibatelli wrote:He’s been 8th twice and was a very average player. He got the job through luck, he wasn’t qualified.
He still isn’t, he makes so many poor decisions it’s clear he’s not good enough, if the Kroenkes weren’t in charge we’d have a new manager by now, but they are and they don’t care about football.
As for Saliba, just because Arteta thinks he’s not good enough based on some friendly level games, it doesn’t make it true. This is the same guy that rates Xhaka after all.
Saliba probably won’t be around long if at all as his contract will have run out before long and clubs like Real are already hovering around, we’ve really messed this up, he’ll have 2 years left if/when he comes back, I doubt he’ll sign a longer contract and thus after a year he has a year left and we’re in the same situation we get ourselves in time and time again.
Plus let’s face it if Real come knocking, no player is going turn them down and to stick around at Arsenal.
by Salibatelli » Wed Feb 02, 2022 12:18 am
jayramfootball wrote:Salibatelli wrote:He’s been 8th twice and was a very average player. He got the job through luck, he wasn’t qualified.
He still isn’t, he makes so many poor decisions it’s clear he’s not good enough, if the Kroenkes weren’t in charge we’d have a new manager by now, but they are and they don’t care about football.
As for Saliba, just because Arteta thinks he’s not good enough based on some friendly level games, it doesn’t make it true. This is the same guy that rates Xhaka after all.
Saliba probably won’t be around long if at all as his contract will have run out before long and clubs like Real are already hovering around, we’ve really messed this up, he’ll have 2 years left if/when he comes back, I doubt he’ll sign a longer contract and thus after a year he has a year left and we’re in the same situation we get ourselves in time and time again.
Plus let’s face it if Real come knocking, no player is going turn them down and to stick around at Arsenal.
Honestly, it just makes you sound ridiculous when you pretend you know even a tiny fraction of what a player, coach and manager at the very highest level of club football has learned over 20 years in the game.