William Saliba (2)

[Santi]

181 pages and the c*** hasn't even played a senior game lmao

[alexafc12]

Watched him versus Lyon. He got caught ball watching quite often and positionally was poor. Looked good on the ball.

https://youtu.be/5UDcvWQXNw8

Guendouzi was really good

[theHotHead]

2 years left on his deal in the summer. Even if he's now in our plans can we convince him to extend his deal ?

Would you sign one knowing how you've been treated by an idiotic manager?

Fofana comes in at an similar age and excels at premier League level. Saliba rated higher than him not given a chance at all. Excels on multiple loans and we buy Brighton's third best CB for 50m.

Saliva wasn’t too young and was good enough, we know this from Fofana at Leicester who as you rightly pointed out wasn’t as highly rated and was the same age and did very well at Leicester.

This theory that he wasn’t good enough is just used to try and find a reason as to why he was sent out on loan and never played.

Its nonsense

2 games with the u23s after you just joined a new club in a new country is not the way you judge a new young player. Thats bullcrap and everyone including Jay knows that.

We were all excited when we signed him because of the fact other big clubs were interested in him and he chose us, the narrative in the press was he was wanted by bigger clubs than us, so it was great that he chose us.

Then that fuckwit Arteta got involved and 2 u23 games later he wasn't good enough.

Joke ting.

[theHotHead]

Jay you are talking rubbish. Fofana in his first season was voted young player of the season by the fans, so clearly he wasn't just OK like you claim!!

To say Saliba is way ahead of him is total rubbish, especially because of the short shrift you give the French League or, is it all of a sudden a good quality league in your opinion now?!

A season of good performances in the Prem puts Fofana in a better position than a season of good performances in Ligue 1, that should be obvious.

[Ach]

Jay you are talking rubbish. Fofana in his first season was voted young player of the season by the fans, so clearly he wasn't just OK like you claim!!

To say Saliba is way ahead of him is total rubbish, especially because of the short shrift you give the French League or, is it all of a sudden a good quality league in your opinion now?!

A season of good performances in the Prem puts Fofana in a better position than a season of good performances in Ligue 1, that should be obvious.

Fofana just ok? He really said that?



Dear f***ing God. His cluelessness about football is hilarious

[jayramfootball]

181 pages and the c*** hasn't even played a senior game lmao

Apparently chucking a young kid into the first team where he gets battered and badly injured and then another injury of a broken leg to miss an entire season is the way to go with young players…. But only young players from the same country as Saliba who play ok before they get smashed up…. because Arteta bad

If only we could have developed Saliba like that he’d be in as good a position now as Fofana.

[jayramfootball]

Jay you are talking rubbish. Fofana in his first season was voted young player of the season by the fans, so clearly he wasn't just OK like you claim!!

To say Saliba is way ahead of him is total rubbish, especially because of the short shrift you give the French League or, is it all of a sudden a good quality league in your opinion now?!

A season of good performances in the Prem puts Fofana in a better position than a season of good performances in Ligue 1, that should be obvious.

A major injury which meant the kid only played 2/3 of the season and another horror broken leg which means an entire season missed this year to follow it up puts Fofana in a decidedly worse position than Saliba. Obviously.

[Salibatelli]

I think injuries happen to players of all ages, it’s has nothing to do with giving a player a chance.

He could have just as easily got injured in another league.

Saka has been playing since he was 18 was that a mistake too? Cesc played from a young age as well, as have countless other players from various countries.

[jayramfootball]

Watched him versus Lyon. He got caught ball watching quite often and positionally was poor. Looked good on the ball.

https://youtu.be/5UDcvWQXNw8

Happened a lot this season but he is still developing.
For a CB especially he is just a kid.

His understanding of the position will improve each year and it’s very likely gotten a lot better than it was when we first signed him.

[theHotHead]

Jay you are talking rubbish. Fofana in his first season was voted young player of the season by the fans, so clearly he wasn't just OK like you claim!!

To say Saliba is way ahead of him is total rubbish, especially because of the short shrift you give the French League or, is it all of a sudden a good quality league in your opinion now?!

A season of good performances in the Prem puts Fofana in a better position than a season of good performances in Ligue 1, that should be obvious.

A major injury which meant the kid only played 2/3 of the season and another horror broken leg which means an entire season missed this year to follow it up puts Fofana in a decidedly worse position than Saliba. Obviously.

No it doesn't !

Since the 2020-21 season Saliba has played 51 games in France in all comps - 4557 mins, Fofana has played 4 Ligue 1 games and 38 games in England in all comps - 3398 mins - a grand total of 11 games less than Saliba (given 90 min matches). 76% of Fofana's game time has come in the vastly more relevant English league, in the Prem and FA Cup.

Using your own silly argument to beat you with, it was YOU that claimed the French League is shit and has no bearing on whether or not a player will do well in England, you totally dismissed experience gained in France, so you can't now come back and make the argument that Saliba's 11 games extra - over an 18 month period - has made Saliba a better player than Fofana who was voted Young Player of the Year by Leicester fans !!

[theHotHead]

I think injuries happen to players of all ages, it’s has nothing to do with giving a player a chance.

He could have just as easily got injured in another league.

Saka has been playing since he was 18 was that a mistake too? Cesc played from a young age as well, as have countless other players from various countries.

Its another ill-thought out argument from Jay. He didn't even get his leg broken while playing in an English match, it was in a pre-season Friendly against Villareal.

In his sole season so far at Leicester he missed 2 of their 8 Europa LEague games with injury, 6 of their league games through injury and 1 of their 6 FA Cup games through injury. Jay's point about being injured because he wasn't used to or ready for the English league or whatever he wrote (cba to check) is wide of the mark

[RowdyRoddyPoppins]

He will be sold in the summer without playing a single minute for the first team. Mark my words.

[jayramfootball]

I think injuries happen to players of all ages, it’s has nothing to do with giving a player a chance.

He could have just as easily got injured in another league.

Saka has been playing since he was 18 was that a mistake too? Cesc played from a young age as well, as have countless other players from various countries.

Its another ill-thought out argument from Jay. He didn't even get his leg broken while playing in an English match, it was in a pre-season Friendly against Villareal.

In his sole season so far at Leicester he missed 2 of their 8 Europa LEague games with injury, 6 of their league games through injury and 1 of their 6 FA Cup games through injury. Jay's point about being injured because he wasn't used to or ready for the English league or whatever he wrote (cba to check) is wide of the mark

Fact is Fofana has had a disastrous 2 years.
Saliba has been able to develop - albeit at a lower level.
Anyone in their right mind would take Saliba's position now over Fofana's going into next year.
That's good development.

Outcomes matter.

The result if Rodgers development decisions on Fofana


The result of Arteta's development decisions on Saliba

[Ach]

I think injuries happen to players of all ages, it’s has nothing to do with giving a player a chance.

He could have just as easily got injured in another league.

Saka has been playing since he was 18 was that a mistake too? Cesc played from a young age as well, as have countless other players from various countries.

Its another ill-thought out argument from Jay. He didn't even get his leg broken while playing in an English match, it was in a pre-season Friendly against Villareal.

In his sole season so far at Leicester he missed 2 of their 8 Europa LEague games with injury, 6 of their league games through injury and 1 of their 6 FA Cup games through injury. Jay's point about being injured because he wasn't used to or ready for the English league or whatever he wrote (cba to check) is wide of the mark

Now that is shocking.

[Highbury Hillbilly]

He will be sold in the summer without playing a single minute for the first team. Mark my words.

It would be the best outcome. We will be leaving money on the table if we let his deal go down to the final year. Like we have with Gunedouzi, Torreira, Bellerin, AMN and Nketiah.

Instead of a potential ~ £60m windfall from selling the above 5 players, we will only manage €10m for Guendouzi. And even that is a ripoff.