William Saliba (2)

[Salibatelli]

Looks like White isn’t doing well in the key defending side of winning headers.

I think we all know Saliba is good enough to play and that it was a dum decision to send him on loan, it isn’t the first and it won’t be the last time this club makes dum decisions whilst it continues to employ people who don’t really seem to know what they’re doing.

[Ach]

Hopefully with Arteta gone in the near future, saliba gets his chance.

Been very impressive

[jayramfootball]

Jay, when you watched Ben White last season did you think "hmmm, not very good at winning headers "?

I have no idea how good this infogol website is, but it shows stats for both players.

Saliba 2020/21 - 6.38
White 2020/21 - 6.04

Saliba 2021/22 - 7.32
White 2021/22 - 5.96

Whoscored.com

Saliba 2020/21 - 7.04
White 2020/21 - 6.60

Saliba 2021/22 - 6.66
White 2021/22 - 6.02

What has the above got to do with the fact that Saliba has won only half his headers?
I thought winning headers was vital for a defender?
It's strange that the ability to win headers is not so important all of a sudden..what happened?

That said around 6/10 would be about right for Saliba this year - what he has lacked defensively he has made up for in his strong possession play.
If he can improve defensively he may be ready to step up to the PL.

The main problem is that Saliba is being inflated to a 10/10 the way people are talking about him for one reason and one reason only - to attack Arteta and Arsenal. It's same reason White and our other signings have been slated.
Let's stop pretending it's anything other than that, ok?

Mavrapanos has a higher rating than Saliba on whoscored this year. if that is what you want to use as a stat (though it's a composite across many attributes and not useful to compare between leagues).
The Mavrapaos thread is 30 pages, this one is 133 and no one is posting updates after every game pretending he had a 10/10 performance in order to bash the club. There is a reason. It is not as useful to use Mavrapanos because the media are not amplifying him. There's a few posts here and there but the snipers just can't muster the enthusiasm for him to pretend he's 'magnificent' because there are very few Arsenal bashing media stories to regurgitate.

Saliba was loaned out to improve as he is not ready yet for the PL. There is nothing more complicated going on.
If he can improve he might be good enough next year - we'll see.

[Salibatelli]

It’s have everything to do with it as you’ve been hailing white as some sort of superstar defender who is amazing and worth every penny of the ridiculous 50 million we paid and at the same time slating Saliba who HH has proved is actually superior at heading, something you’re saying he’s not good at.

Saliba isn’t being inflated, he’s been on loan several times and everytime he’s been outstanding, no one thought he should have been sent out on loan after he’s performed very well and we signed him for 27 million and everyone is rightly questioning it.

And there lies the problem, we have a manager seemingly driven by favouritism (which is actually one of the big reasons Arteta is unpopular btw, there are others of course like his poor performance), some players he likes other he decides he doesn’t (clearly not for football reasons), Saliba falls into the latter and this has never been given a chance, yet you defend this ridiculous decision (which it is to anyone logical) claiming he’s not good enough and all kinds of other rubbish, it’s especially relevant when you consider we currently have Chambers and Holding playing and they’re rubbish at CB.

Time and time again you defend the indefensible with ridiculous arguments which no one buys, but still you continue, Saliba is a clear example, everyone is raving about him but according to you, some guy who knows nothing about him, he’s not up to standard.

As for Mavropanos, he’s anyone who should have got a chance based on his loan, but again, not one of the favourites so he gets loaned and probably sold now.

Saliba doenst need to improve to play in the PL, hes just fine as he is, Fofana made the transition without any issues and Saliba is better, he’ll also only get better with age.

[Nuggets]

It’s have everything to do with it as you’ve been hailing white as some sort of superstar defender who is amazing and worth every penny of the ridiculous 50 million we paid and at the same time slating Saliba who HH has proved is actually superior at heading, something you’re saying he’s not good at.

Saliba isn’t being inflated, he’s been on loan several times and everytime he’s been outstanding, no one thought he should have been sent out on loan after he’s performed very well and we signed him for 27 million and everyone is rightly questioning it.

And there lies the problem, we have a manager seemingly driven by favouritism (which is actually one of the big reasons Arteta is unpopular btw, there are others of course like his poor performance), some players he likes other he decides he doesn’t (clearly not for football reasons), Saliba falls into the latter and this has never been given a chance, yet you defend this ridiculous decision (which it is to anyone logical) claiming he’s not good enough and all kinds of other rubbish, it’s especially relevant when you consider we currently have Chambers and Holding playing and they’re rubbish at CB.

Time and time again you defend the indefensible with ridiculous arguments which no one buys, but still you continue, Saliba is a clear example, everyone is raving about him but according to you, some guy who knows nothing about him, he’s not up to standard.

As for Mavropanos, he’s anyone who should have got a chance based on his loan, but again, not one of the favourites so he gets loaned and probably sold now.

Saliba doesn't need to improve to play in the PL, he's just fine as he is, Fofana made the transition without any issues and Saliba is better, he’ll also only get better with age.

Sadly we have a clown managing us who has personality issues and there lies the problem.

[jayramfootball]

It’s have everything to do with it as you’ve been hailing white as some sort of superstar defender who is amazing and worth every penny of the ridiculous 50 million we paid and at the same time slating Saliba who HH has proved is actually superior at heading, something you’re saying he’s not good at.

Saliba isn’t being inflated, he’s been on loan several times and everytime he’s been outstanding, no one thought he should have been sent out on loan after he’s performed very well and we signed him for 27 million and everyone is rightly questioning it.

And there lies the problem, we have a manager seemingly driven by favouritism (which is actually one of the big reasons Arteta is unpopular btw, there are others of course like his poor performance), some players he likes other he decides he doesn’t (clearly not for football reasons), Saliba falls into the latter and this has never been given a chance, yet you defend this ridiculous decision (which it is to anyone logical) claiming he’s not good enough and all kinds of other rubbish, it’s especially relevant when you consider we currently have Chambers and Holding playing and they’re rubbish at CB.

Time and time again you defend the indefensible with ridiculous arguments which no one buys, but still you continue, Saliba is a clear example, everyone is raving about him but according to you, some guy who knows nothing about him, he’s not up to standard.

As for Mavropanos, he’s anyone who should have got a chance based on his loan, but again, not one of the favourites so he gets loaned and probably sold now.

Saliba doenst need to improve to play in the PL, hes just fine as he is, Fofana made the transition without any issues and Saliba is better, he’ll also only get better with age.

As this season has shown so far Saliba needs to improve his heading and tackling and that is just for the French League. Never mind the PL.

'Everyone' isn't raving about Saliba. His biggest fans are Arsenal fans who hate Arteta and some journalists manipulating them. I think they may be the only people calling his 6/10 season so far in France 'magnificent'.

[Salibatelli]

It’s have everything to do with it as you’ve been hailing white as some sort of superstar defender who is amazing and worth every penny of the ridiculous 50 million we paid and at the same time slating Saliba who HH has proved is actually superior at heading, something you’re saying he’s not good at.

Saliba isn’t being inflated, he’s been on loan several times and everytime he’s been outstanding, no one thought he should have been sent out on loan after he’s performed very well and we signed him for 27 million and everyone is rightly questioning it.

And there lies the problem, we have a manager seemingly driven by favouritism (which is actually one of the big reasons Arteta is unpopular btw, there are others of course like his poor performance), some players he likes other he decides he doesn’t (clearly not for football reasons), Saliba falls into the latter and this has never been given a chance, yet you defend this ridiculous decision (which it is to anyone logical) claiming he’s not good enough and all kinds of other rubbish, it’s especially relevant when you consider we currently have Chambers and Holding playing and they’re rubbish at CB.

Time and time again you defend the indefensible with ridiculous arguments which no one buys, but still you continue, Saliba is a clear example, everyone is raving about him but according to you, some guy who knows nothing about him, he’s not up to standard.

As for Mavropanos, he’s anyone who should have got a chance based on his loan, but again, not one of the favourites so he gets loaned and probably sold now.

Saliba doenst need to improve to play in the PL, hes just fine as he is, Fofana made the transition without any issues and Saliba is better, he’ll also only get better with age.

As this season has shown so far Saliba needs to improve his heading and tackling and that is just for the French League. Never mind the PL.

'Everyone' isn't raving about Saliba. His biggest fans are Arsenal fans who hate Arteta and some journalists manipulating them. I think they may be the only people calling his 6/10 season so far in France 'magnificent'.

I don’t think he does need to improve those to play in the PL, like I said Fofana who was the lesser rated of the two (same age as well) has done great. He’s ready to play in the PL and far far better than Holding and Chambers that’s for sure.

They are, the French guy isn’t “some journalist manipulating fans”, if anything it’s those that don’t believe that he’s ready that are being manipulated by the club (the club have done this many times over the years).

In French football he’s very highly rated, they’re not interested in Arsenal at all, his club Marseille rate him, so do the people putting him in the teams of the week and giving him MOTM etc.

Plus people that actually watch him play are impressed by him (not people linked to the club).

[Salibatelli]

It’s have everything to do with it as you’ve been hailing white as some sort of superstar defender who is amazing and worth every penny of the ridiculous 50 million we paid and at the same time slating Saliba who HH has proved is actually superior at heading, something you’re saying he’s not good at.

Saliba isn’t being inflated, he’s been on loan several times and everytime he’s been outstanding, no one thought he should have been sent out on loan after he’s performed very well and we signed him for 27 million and everyone is rightly questioning it.

And there lies the problem, we have a manager seemingly driven by favouritism (which is actually one of the big reasons Arteta is unpopular btw, there are others of course like his poor performance), some players he likes other he decides he doesn’t (clearly not for football reasons), Saliba falls into the latter and this has never been given a chance, yet you defend this ridiculous decision (which it is to anyone logical) claiming he’s not good enough and all kinds of other rubbish, it’s especially relevant when you consider we currently have Chambers and Holding playing and they’re rubbish at CB.

Time and time again you defend the indefensible with ridiculous arguments which no one buys, but still you continue, Saliba is a clear example, everyone is raving about him but according to you, some guy who knows nothing about him, he’s not up to standard.

As for Mavropanos, he’s anyone who should have got a chance based on his loan, but again, not one of the favourites so he gets loaned and probably sold now.

Saliba doesn't need to improve to play in the PL, he's just fine as he is, Fofana made the transition without any issues and Saliba is better, he’ll also only get better with age.

Sadly we have a clown managing us who has personality issues and there lies the problem.

Yeah I agree the way he discards certain players for no clear reason is very odd and doesn’t reflect well on him at all.

[Ach]

Do we have a recall clause?

Needs to come home

[Salibatelli]

Do we have a recall clause?

Needs to come home

Would love him to come back, as would most Arsenal fans, he was an exciting signing in the sense he was so highly rated across Europe so people were keen to see him and we needed a decent CB badly. I think we all logically thought he’d be playing with Gabriel right now.

I doubt it, it seems to me because the manager doesn’t rate him we don’t want him back, therefore including a clause would be unlikely.

Plus since these people put their full trust in a guy that has got 8th twice (which is odd in itself), I expect they never even entertained the chance he might be awful and be sacked.

[Highbury Hillbilly]

Do we have a recall clause?

Needs to come home

Halfway through a Top 4/Europa challenge?

To help us scrape to another top 10 finish playing anti-football?

Has he not suffered enough?

[Zenith]

[VCC]

Needs to be playing for us

[swipe right]

67 passes with 99% pass accuracy? That’s ridiculous for a defender.

[Nuggets]

Needs to be playing for us

This.