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Re: How Do We Win The Premier League Next Season?

Postby LMAO » Fri May 31, 2019 6:42 am

Funnily enough, I think the 2007-11 teams playing Wengerball would be better suited to the present day and would've given City and Liverpool a run for their money. And we would've been able to sell those players for huge fees in this inflated market in order to keep the party going.

Shame those teams came a decade too early. We gotta work on getting back to that.
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Re: How Do We Win The Premier League Next Season?

Postby UFGN » Fri May 31, 2019 7:07 am

LMAO wrote:Funnily enough, I think the 2007-11 teams playing Wengerball would be better suited to the present day and would've given City and Liverpool a run for their money. And we would've been able to sell those players for huge fees in this inflated market in order to keep the party going.

Shame those teams came a decade too early. We gotta work on getting back to that.


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Re: How Do We Win The Premier League Next Season?

Postby Nuggets » Fri May 31, 2019 7:36 am

With the squad we have a fooking mirical lol
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Re: How Do We Win The Premier League Next Season?

Postby LMAO » Fri May 31, 2019 8:00 am

UFGN wrote:
LMAO wrote:Funnily enough, I think the 2007-11 teams playing Wengerball would be better suited to the present day and would've given City and Liverpool a run for their money. And we would've been able to sell those players for huge fees in this inflated market in order to keep the party going.

Shame those teams came a decade too early. We gotta work on getting back to that.


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Re: How Do We Win The Premier League Next Season?

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:15 pm

To whoever the manager will be next season:

Please, please, please find someone to replace Xhaka and Mustafi in the starting XI. Sell or bench these two for the majority of games next season, I don't care. Just please don't let them be the first names on the team sheet going forward. I can almost guarantee that our overall game would increase tenfold.

To a lesser extent, finding a way to get Ozil off the books or force him to only play in low-pressure games would be monumental for our chances. As talented as he is, the club was never set up to draw out the best in him.
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Re: How Do We Win The Premier League Next Season?

Postby PairyGrows » Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:50 am

How do we win the Premier League next season?

We don't.
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Re: How Do We Win The Premier League Next Season?

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:06 am

PairyGrows wrote:How do we win the Premier League next season?

We don't.


Even if our chances look near impossible, it’s all about setting the right mindset from the off. One of Wenger’s famous lines is that the players need to have the right mental strength and he is 100% right. We need to eradicate the defeatist mentality that is corrupting the club by any means and instilling the belief that we are capable of winning the PL is a good way to start.
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Re: How Do We Win The Premier League Next Season?

Postby PairyGrows » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:58 pm

CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
PairyGrows wrote:How do we win the Premier League next season?

We don't.


Even if our chances look near impossible, it’s all about setting the right mindset from the off. One of Wenger’s famous lines is that the players need to have the right mental strength and he is 100% right. We need to eradicate the defeatist mentality that is corrupting the club by any means and instilling the belief that we are capable of winning the PL is a good way to start.


Yes, but that belief must be based on reality. There has to be something motivating that belief. Otherwise, the players will start questioning their belief and they will come to the obvious conclusion that their belief is not grounded in reality.
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Re: How Do We Win The Premier League Next Season?

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:27 pm

PairyGrows wrote:
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
PairyGrows wrote:How do we win the Premier League next season?

We don't.


Even if our chances look near impossible, it’s all about setting the right mindset from the off. One of Wenger’s famous lines is that the players need to have the right mental strength and he is 100% right. We need to eradicate the defeatist mentality that is corrupting the club by any means and instilling the belief that we are capable of winning the PL is a good way to start.


Yes, but that belief must be based on reality. There has to be something motivating that belief. Otherwise, the players will start questioning their belief and they will come to the obvious conclusion that their belief is not grounded in reality.


That's what this thread is for. If you go back through some of the suggestions and actually implement the more sensible ones, you then start to chip away at the chances of us not winning the PL. It may not look like anyone but the obvious teams will win the PL every season, but there will come a time when the clear favorites fail to deliver and we need to be set up to be the first team to pounce at the opportunity when the time comes. For all anyone knows that time could be as soon as next season which is why I'm hesitant to give Emery another season after what I've seen from him this season. We approach every season aiming for the moon (i.e. winning the PL) then at worst we should hit the stars (i.e. qualifying for the CL).
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Re: How Do We Win The Premier League Next Season?

Postby PairyGrows » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:22 pm

The solutions cost us money, and it's quite apparent we don't have a lot of money (unless Kroenke does something spectacular and pulls out his cheque book). Is it realistic to expect that we'll amass a side capable of winning the league by spending just £45m?
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Re: How Do We Win The Premier League Next Season?

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:32 pm

PairyGrows wrote:The solutions cost us money, and it's quite apparent we don't have a lot of money (unless Kroenke does something spectacular and pulls out his cheque book). Is it realistic to expect that we'll amass a side capable of winning the league by spending just £45m?


What you lack in funds you make up for with smart strategies and tactics. And again this is why I’m questioning whether Emery should get a second season.
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Re: How Do We Win The Premier League Next Season?

Postby ag6789 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:09 pm

Recipe for route back to CL:
Get promising players from PL ( two, at least).
Get a better manager, home grown, maybe, who communicates better, inspires more, has a clear vision. Get rid of the current Football chief, Raul, install a tried and tested hand, who knows the PL inside out.
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Re: How Do We Win The Premier League Next Season?

Postby PairyGrows » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:13 pm

CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
PairyGrows wrote:The solutions cost us money, and it's quite apparent we don't have a lot of money (unless Kroenke does something spectacular and pulls out his cheque book). Is it realistic to expect that we'll amass a side capable of winning the league by spending just £45m?


What you lack in funds you make up for with smart strategies and tactics. And again this is why I’m questioning whether Emery should get a second season.


Let's not forget that the constraints of the squad limit the tactical possibilites for Emery. The glaring issue in our squad is the lack of width: we have one winger in the squad. This forces the full backs to commit to attacking. Of course, this leaves us exposed at the back and thus vulnerable to counterattacks. We should sign wingers. It's that simple.

However, is it realistic to expect us to sign two great wingers when all we have is £45m? Can we trust the club to unearth gems like Mahrez and Kante? It all comes back to signing players, which in turn brings us to money or lack thereof. If the club doesn't make major moves in the transfer market, there's simply no reason for the players to expect they can win the league.

I know ths 'defeatist' attitude isn't productive. But it won't go away by telling the lads to believe in their chances. It goes away when they are given a reason to believe.
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Re: How Do We Win The Premier League Next Season?

Postby BS221B » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:14 pm

We need to focus on footballers that around 18-23 years old that plays in middle tier teams in BuLi, Serie A and Ligue 1. These are the only leagues who somehow sells their players at a reasonable price.

Sampdoria, Udinese and Atalanta in Serie A is like a talent factory.
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Re: How Do We Win The Premier League Next Season?

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:54 pm

PairyGrows wrote:
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
PairyGrows wrote:The solutions cost us money, and it's quite apparent we don't have a lot of money (unless Kroenke does something spectacular and pulls out his cheque book). Is it realistic to expect that we'll amass a side capable of winning the league by spending just £45m?


What you lack in funds you make up for with smart strategies and tactics. And again this is why I’m questioning whether Emery should get a second season.


Let's not forget that the constraints of the squad limit the tactical possibilites for Emery. The glaring issue in our squad is the lack of width: we have one winger in the squad. This forces the full backs to commit to attacking. Of course, this leaves us exposed at the back and thus vulnerable to counterattacks. We should sign wingers. It's that simple.

However, is it realistic to expect us to sign two great wingers when all we have is £45m? Can we trust the club to unearth gems like Mahrez and Kante? It all comes back to signing players, which in turn brings us to money or lack thereof. If the club doesn't make major moves in the transfer market, there's simply no reason for the players to expect they can win the league.

I know ths 'defeatist' attitude isn't productive. But it won't go away by telling the lads to believe in their chances. It goes away when they are given a reason to believe.



There are plenty of players out there who may not be top quality but can do the job we need them to do, some of whom won’t cost an arm and a leg, and many of whom play in the country. If buying is still not an option then maybe we should consider loaning players, at least until we’re back where we need to be. There are many talented young players who are not getting enough playing time at their clubs who I’m sure would jump at the opportunity to play for us and would improve us considerably. It’s up to the manager to know exactly what he wants and the scouts to be able to find these players.
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