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Angelito wrote:

LMAO wrote:

swipe right wrote:You see my dear DG, when the dictator falls out of love with his players the clubs PR machinery has to slander them to make it seem like they are the problem. We are told that all of this was initiated by Guendozi telling Maupay where to stuff it. Imagine if we applied the same yardstick to Vieira’s behavior.

I thought it started in Dubai and the Maupay incident was the last straw?

He took his shirt off and danced in Dubai appaz. Had this been in Rio, nobody would have batted an eyelid.

Bad behavior? Absolutely. Idiotic, yep. But it's not surprising for a stimulated teenager who's set for life to act like a buffoon. It's a teenage thing.

Just fine him for every misdemeanor. It wasn't even a big deal in the media before that Brighton incident. After that, everything blew up. The FA didn't bother slapping a fine or a suspension either. All of a sudden, news about his horrible attitude started pouring in after Brighton.

If there's anything we've been masterful at, lately, it's our foolproof PR mechanism.

Mind you, I'm not defending his behavior. He might be an absolute dumbass for all we know. I just don't trust the club's narrative or the people running things at Arsenal these days. It's a tad cronyistic. Not exactly. But somewhere there.

Phil71 wrote:He's doing so well that Hertha Berlin don't want to sign him.

Özim wrote:

Phil71 wrote:He's doing so well that Hertha Berlin don't want to sign him.

Have you spoken to the guy in charge of transfers there? Lol

They might not have the money anyhow. The way I see it if it increases his transfer value and we can get more for him.

I don’t trust the club over their claims he had a bad attiitude because that’s always their default position that it’s the players fault, always shifting the blame, it’s cringeworthy.

Phil71 wrote:

Özim wrote:

Phil71 wrote:He's doing so well that Hertha Berlin don't want to sign him.

Have you spoken to the guy in charge of transfers there? Lol

They might not have the money anyhow. The way I see it if it increases his transfer value and we can get more for him.

I don’t trust the club over their claims he had a bad attiitude because that’s always their default position that it’s the players fault, always shifting the blame, it’s cringeworthy.

OK. So it's fine to believe and repeat reports that are in the media if it suits your ant-Arteta agenda, but anything that might be to the contrary should be laughed at.

I see.

Özim wrote:

Phil71 wrote:

Özim wrote:

Phil71 wrote:He's doing so well that Hertha Berlin don't want to sign him.

Have you spoken to the guy in charge of transfers there? Lol

They might not have the money anyhow. The way I see it if it increases his transfer value and we can get more for him.

I don’t trust the club over their claims he had a bad attiitude because that’s always their default position that it’s the players fault, always shifting the blame, it’s cringeworthy.

OK. So it's fine to believe and repeat reports that are in the media if it suits your ant-Arteta agenda, but anything that might be to the contrary should be laughed at.

I see.

Yes it is because Arteta has alienated quite a few players, no smoke without fire as they say.

He’s tried to come in and throw his weight around, trouble is no one respects him, he’s got no record of success and no experience, it’s not the way to manage when your new to management.

Özim wrote:

Phil71 wrote:

Özim wrote:

Phil71 wrote:He's doing so well that Hertha Berlin don't want to sign him.

Have you spoken to the guy in charge of transfers there? Lol

They might not have the money anyhow. The way I see it if it increases his transfer value and we can get more for him.

I don’t trust the club over their claims he had a bad attiitude because that’s always their default position that it’s the players fault, always shifting the blame, it’s cringeworthy.

OK. So it's fine to believe and repeat reports that are in the media if it suits your ant-Arteta agenda, but anything that might be to the contrary should be laughed at.

I see.

Yes it is because Arteta has alienated quite a few players, no smoke without fire as they say.

He’s tried to come in and throw his weight around, trouble is no one respects him, he’s got no record of success and no experience, it’s not the way to manage when your new to management.

starmandb wrote:

Özim wrote:

Phil71 wrote:

Özim wrote:

Phil71 wrote:He's doing so well that Hertha Berlin don't want to sign him.

Have you spoken to the guy in charge of transfers there? Lol

They might not have the money anyhow. The way I see it if it increases his transfer value and we can get more for him.

I don’t trust the club over their claims he had a bad attiitude because that’s always their default position that it’s the players fault, always shifting the blame, it’s cringeworthy.

OK. So it's fine to believe and repeat reports that are in the media if it suits your ant-Arteta agenda, but anything that might be to the contrary should be laughed at.

I see.

Yes it is because Arteta has alienated quite a few players, no smoke without fire as they say.

He’s tried to come in and throw his weight around, trouble is no one respects him, he’s got no record of success and no experience, it’s not the way to manage when your new to management.

That phrase no smoke without fire is the biggest misnomer of the lot not just in football but within any walk of life
I have heard supposedly true stories from people who had no knowledge of events that I was at and it spreads like wildfire because bored people want salacious things to be the truth
Kindness stumbles at the court of the nihilist

Özim wrote:

starmandb wrote:

Özim wrote:

Phil71 wrote:

Özim wrote:

Phil71 wrote:He's doing so well that Hertha Berlin don't want to sign him.

Have you spoken to the guy in charge of transfers there? Lol

They might not have the money anyhow. The way I see it if it increases his transfer value and we can get more for him.

I don’t trust the club over their claims he had a bad attiitude because that’s always their default position that it’s the players fault, always shifting the blame, it’s cringeworthy.

OK. So it's fine to believe and repeat reports that are in the media if it suits your ant-Arteta agenda, but anything that might be to the contrary should be laughed at.

I see.

Yes it is because Arteta has alienated quite a few players, no smoke without fire as they say.

He’s tried to come in and throw his weight around, trouble is no one respects him, he’s got no record of success and no experience, it’s not the way to manage when your new to management.

That phrase no smoke without fire is the biggest misnomer of the lot not just in football but within any walk of life
I have heard supposedly true stories from people who had no knowledge of events that I was at and it spreads like wildfire because bored people want salacious things to be the truth
Kindness stumbles at the court of the nihilist

The point is he’s alienated a fair few players, that’s down to him as well, not the players solely, you can’t come in a a nobody and do this, why should they respect a guy who’s never achieved anything, either in his football career or management career.

Respect has to be earn my, he hasn’t earnt it.

Phil71 wrote:He's doing so well that Hertha Berlin don't want to sign him.

theHotHead wrote:

Phil71 wrote:He's doing so well that Hertha Berlin don't want to sign him.

Why do you claim Hertha do not want to sign him ? Have they come out and said that ?

Phil71 wrote:

theHotHead wrote:

Phil71 wrote:He's doing so well that Hertha Berlin don't want to sign him.

Why do you claim Hertha do not want to sign him ? Have they come out and said that ?

According to the German sports papers, yes.