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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Hertha BSC)

Postby swipe right » Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:20 am

Experience at job
Arteta - limited
Guendozi- limited

Temperament
Arteta - hothead, stubborn, easily falls out with others
Guendozi - hothead, stubborn, easily falls out with others

Potential
Arteta - questionable but early days
Guendozi - questionable but early days

Hmmmm
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Hertha BSC)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:54 am

Take the £9m and run. It's Marseille, how much could they realistically pay anyway?

Get this over it. Otherwise, before you know it, he'll be back at the club, not registered for the squad and eating up £2.5m in wages.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Hertha BSC)

Postby Arsenal Tone » Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:28 am

aniym wrote:Take the £9m and run. It's Marseille, how much could they realistically pay anyway?

Get this over it. Otherwise, before you know it, he'll be back at the club, not registered for the squad and eating up £2.5m in wages.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Hertha BSC)

Postby theHotHead » Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:54 am

VCC wrote:Be an unpopular take on here but,
I agree with Arteta in a way, good prospect that lost his way and was too big for his boots to take a step back, I dislike how he throws himself to the ground with every single touch looking for free kicks, much rather a player be strong and fight but the latter is rare in Arsenal today.
His rants about wage to other players shows a youngster who lost his way, Arteta probably thought he couldn't work with him, but as time has gone by it looks like Arteta is him self struggling.
But I dislike more of Dozy than I like.

Its a fair take but I think it lacks a little bit of balance. Nothing you listed is terminal, nothing is that big of a deal that it can't be fixed, he is still very young!!

It should be possible to mould him, under the right manager. I don't think the tough approach will work because he is a hot head, doesn't mean you have to discard him, he is a decent player that could become a very good player. I dont think he is a bad apple like Ravel Morrison who isn't really interested in football, I also don't think he is as stroppy as Jonjo Shelvey - and he came good in the end.

It shouldn't be hard to find what works, its what being a manager of people is all about, its horses for courses, not one size fits all.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Hertha BSC)

Postby theHotHead » Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:56 am

aniym wrote:Take the £9m and run. It's Marseille, how much could they realistically pay anyway?

Get this over it. Otherwise, before you know it, he'll be back at the club, not registered for the squad and eating up £2.5m in wages.

No!! You don't make a bad decision to follow a previously bad decision.

Selling him for anything less than £20m would be terrible business!!
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Hertha BSC)

Postby Jedi » Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:58 am

Bring him home.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Hertha BSC)

Postby Nuggets » Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:32 pm

With a good manager, this guy could be an asset, but sadly we don't have a good manager.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Hertha BSC)

Postby Santi » Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:10 pm

For that price easily keep him and find a way to get him back on board.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Hertha BSC)

Postby Angelito » Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:09 pm

Don't care what we get for him, offload him. I really like the lad but we know how this movie ends.

I don't want Arteta to be insinuating how Guendouzi is the reason behind our poor form, as he did a few weeks ago with Ozil and co.

End this drama. There's been too much of that since Pep joined Arsenal.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Hertha BSC)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:52 pm

theHotHead wrote:
aniym wrote:Take the £9m and run. It's Marseille, how much could they realistically pay anyway?

Get this over it. Otherwise, before you know it, he'll be back at the club, not registered for the squad and eating up £2.5m in wages.

No!! You don't make a bad decision to follow a previously bad decision.

Selling him for anything less than £20m would be terrible business!!


He is not worth £20m because he hasn't performed like a Willock or even AMN. Unless Uncle Unai wants to splash some of that Champions League money on him, it'll be like squeezing blood from a stone.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Hertha BSC)

Postby theHotHead » Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:00 am

Well then don't sell him. He has proved he can do a decent job in the Prem, keep him, play him and increase his value, then sell him. Giving him away for a pittance makes no sense
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Hertha BSC)

Postby swipe right » Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:03 am

Angelito wrote:Don't care what we get for him, offload him. I really like the lad but we know how this movie ends.

I don't want Arteta to be insinuating how Guendouzi is the reason behind our poor form, as he did a few weeks ago with Ozil and co.

End this drama. There's been too much of that since Pep joined Arsenal.

He’ll always find a bogeyman. A bad carpenter blames his tools.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Hertha BSC)

Postby EliteKiller » Mon Jun 07, 2021 2:55 am

theHotHead wrote:Well then don't sell him. He has proved he can do a decent job in the Prem, keep him, play him and increase his value, then sell him. Giving him away for a pittance makes no sense


Keeping bang average players in the hope they improve on contracts running down on a very high salary? how could that possibly go wrong?
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Hertha BSC)

Postby theHotHead » Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:40 am

EK, he has shown himself to be a useful enough asset. I would rather keep Guendouzi and give him a go than Xhaka, Elneny and Ceballos. He wasn't a bad player at all.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Hertha BSC)

Postby swipe right » Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:59 am

At 22 he's nowhere near his peak. Yet he has all the tools to be a combative box to box midfielder. We brought in a manager who was supposed to work wonders with raw talent. Turns out he can only work with a finished KdB, Aguero or Sterling.
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