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Is Unai Emery the right man to take Arsenal forward?

Poll ended at Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:36 pm

Yes
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27%
No
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33%
Unsure
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24%
Doesn't matter as long as Kroenke is in charge
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Total votes : 66

Re: Unai Emery, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby elkanofan » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:08 pm

gamechannel wrote:Dude, stop coming up with one excuse after another to defend the great Emery. You're embarrassing yourself. He's been nothing more than mediocre. He plays a scared brand of football. He makes boneheaded tactical decisions. He's terrible at man-management. Those are all facts backed up by evidence.


What the hell are you talking about? I'm giving Emery excuses because i don't agree with you?

I have explained myself, you failed so baldy to make your point, become triggered and throw childish insults.

That is just pathetic! That post has shown you have lost the debate completely, you cannot handle the argument.
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Re: Unai Emery, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby Losmeister » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:48 pm

fwiw, was watching Barca/Inter... Dembele comes on and proceeds to sky three shots into the crowd..... goes to show how the shots stats can be absolutley devoid of meaning, of representiing a true threat to score.... may as well have said dembele lost teh ball OOB 3x
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Re: Unai Emery, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby gamechannel » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:25 pm

elkanofan wrote:
gamechannel wrote:Dude, stop coming up with one excuse after another to defend the great Emery. You're embarrassing yourself. He's been nothing more than mediocre. He plays a scared brand of football. He makes boneheaded tactical decisions. He's terrible at man-management. Those are all facts backed up by evidence.


What the hell are you talking about? I'm giving Emery excuses because i don't agree with you?

I have explained myself, you failed so baldy to make your point, become triggered and throw childish insults.

That is just pathetic! That post has shown you have lost the debate completely, you cannot handle the argument.


I can't handle argument? Jesus! Allow me to educate you and all other Emery truthers one more time:

1- Negative tactics time and time again even against mid-table and lower table teams. Blows a comfortable lead for an easy 4th place finish last year due to his negative tactics. No improvement in defensive stats compared to Wenger despite playing a negative, defensive game.

2- Bone-headed lineups and substitutions repeatedly. Picks players who don't deserve to start yet benches the ones that do. Plays players in the wrong positions.

3- Different standards for different players. Xhaka is a shoe-in despite repeated gaffes yet the likes of Willock are planted on the bench. Ozil can't buy a game because he doesn't work defensively yet Pepe's laziness is rewarded with starts repeatedly.

4- Poor man management. Didn't have the balls to pick his own captain. Instead, used a players-only vote to pick Xhaka as Captain. Benched Ozil for good yet names him as one of the captains. Players have complained about poor training choices as per newspaper article(s).
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Re: Unai Emery, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby elkanofan » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:09 am

gamechannel wrote:
elkanofan wrote:
gamechannel wrote:Dude, stop coming up with one excuse after another to defend the great Emery. You're embarrassing yourself. He's been nothing more than mediocre. He plays a scared brand of football. He makes boneheaded tactical decisions. He's terrible at man-management. Those are all facts backed up by evidence.


What the hell are you talking about? I'm giving Emery excuses because i don't agree with you?

I have explained myself, you failed so baldy to make your point, become triggered and throw childish insults.

That is just pathetic! That post has shown you have lost the debate completely, you cannot handle the argument.


I can't handle argument? Jesus! Allow me to educate you and all other Emery truthers one more time:


Ok, so i can see what I'm dealing with here. Your a simple guy. Your one who puts people into boxes rather than understands.

1- Negative tactics time and time again even against mid-table and lower table teams. Blows a comfortable lead for an easy 4th place finish last year due to his negative tactics. No improvement in defensive stats compared to Wenger despite playing a negative, defensive game.


Ramsey was one injury too far, our entire team and season died as soon as he got injured vs Napoli. Last years collapse was our team showing how mediocre and flawed it was and still very much is now.

2- Bone-headed lineups and substitutions repeatedly. Picks players who don't deserve to start yet benches the ones that do. Plays players in the wrong positions.


We have 1 attacking midfielder who is currently reliable, a wasteman and then kids! Even United who are sorry shitshow of a club right now has more choice of attacking mids than we do.

3- Different standards for different players. Xhaka is a shoe-in despite repeated gaffes yet the likes of Willock are planted on the bench. Ozil can't buy a game because he doesn't work defensively yet Pepe's laziness is rewarded with starts repeatedly.


Xhaka puts 100% in every training session and the entire team believes in him and Emery to lead us forward. He's not perfect, i don't even agree with him as captain but he cares so I back him!

Pepe has been here for less than 2 months, hes been shit but i have time for him to improve. I really hope he proves me wrong!

Ozil has been a sack of shit for at least two years now and can even last more than 65 minutes vs Championship forest doing absolutely nothing whatseoever but lose the ball and make simple passes! I'm long done with this wasteman!

4- Poor man management. Didn't have the balls to pick his own captain. Instead, used a players-only vote to pick Xhaka as Captain. Benched Ozil for good yet names him as one of the captains. Players have complained about poor training choices as per newspaper article(s).


Hence why there are no quotes whatsoever from these articles like John Cross's recent toilet rag, evidently funded by Ozil's entourage to hide what a sorry sack of shit for a player he has become!

Player power is out of control in football and it gets ugly whey they aren't good enough anymore but greed kicks in and they want to keep their big wages.

I just hope letting Ramsey go and keeping this idiot Ozil is the last in a long line of gigantic club errors! I back Emery because he's experienced enough to organised a club and the players behind him and he's cleaned up bigger clubs than us in the past and been successful. We are a joke of a club and we are run as a true shambles, we have a board who do not give a monkeys, have made pitiful investment and crucial decisions on wages and budgeting what we need, things have been stale for so, very long this is going to still take another 2-3 years at least before we are competitive again!

I'm realistic, we are a very poor club with a long way back to near the top!
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Re: Unai Emery, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby gooney » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:08 am

Watching salzburg take on Liverpool just made me more depressed we have this negative coward who is cancer to football. Someone please get rid of him. Anyone knows black magic?
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Re: Unai Emery, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby Ach » Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:22 am

You seem obsessed if a match between 2 clubs that has f all to do with emery or Arsenal is making you depressed. That says a lot more about you than emery.
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Re: Unai Emery, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby theHotHead » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:07 pm

Elkanofan I am not going to quote your post, its long, gonna extract what I need here instead.

Pathetic insult ? Telling you that you typed paragraph after paragraph of nonsense is nothing of the sort. If I wanted to insult you I would have and you would know that I did.

Regarding Torreira, no, YOU think you addressed it and I told you that you are chatting rubbish. You proclaimed Torreira was given license to be the most offensive of the 3 CMs, presumably by Emery. I said thats rubbish because he is not the best offensively out of the 3 CM so why would Emery make that decision unless he was a complete jackass, which I presume he is not. So if you are sticking to your argument then I have to laugh.

Regarding Ceballos not starting vs Man U, your argument is he is defensively shit and not fit enough to last 90 mins. But he is good enough offensively to run the show - offensively, so why not let him start, even if you get 60 mins he will have run the Man U midfielders ragged and we can bring on someone to take his place, thats the entire point of having substitutes. Not starting him and asking a specialist DM to supplement the creativity in the team is lunacy.

Regarding Reis Nelson, he is not ready yet, simple as that, this is a season too soon for him - at least.

Regarding Ceballos tackling back, you play players like Ozil and Ceballos and do not focus on their defensive game. They are offensive players and a manager with half a brain cell will ensure the team around them are able to cover the defensive duties. but when the manager makes stupid decisions as Emery has been you see the team struggle so badly defensively. We are worse now than we have EVER been defensively, since I have watched Arsenal. Emery is a defensive clown. He can't get the team to defend and he can't get the best out of his offensive players. This is a failure of epic proportions.

A bang average midfield that, apart from vs Liverpool and Man City, are a match for everyone else. So either they overachieve or, more likely, they are not as bad as you claim they are.

Mate, you keep harping on about having knowledge of the game and everyone bar YOU can see that you have no knowledge at all, telling everyone you have knowledge doesn't mean it is so. As for shouting loud, what the f**k are you talking about dweeb !!!
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Re: Unai Emery, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby UFGN » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:09 pm

Looks like we've got a genuinely exciting crop of youngsters for the first time in years
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Re: Unai Emery, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby Power n Glory » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:12 pm

UFGN wrote:Looks like we've got a genuinely exciting crop of youngsters for the first time in years


Yep. Might have to try and get tickets for the next home game. A lot of empty seats tonight.
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Re: Unai Emery, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby ag6789 » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:37 pm

Impressive victory over STL. Hope to see similar showing against Bournemouth. Don't want to see huge swings in performance against PL teams. If necessary, start Martinelli and Tierney in PL.
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Re: Unai Emery, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:52 pm

UFGN wrote:Looks like we've got a genuinely exciting crop of youngsters for the first time in years


Yep, as some may know I'm not soft on the young players just because their AFC youth, if I don't see the talent I'm out, but ............ Saka, Willock, Martinelli for me have all got it.

Guendouzi though, props to him he's the same age and yet we don't even count him, just goes to show how good he is in his position.

Nelson I don't think will hit the lofty heights of those mentioned but unlike AMN I think he'll at least be a good squad winger, I'll give him his due he was at least as good if not better than Pepe tonight so there's his credit.
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Re: Unai Emery, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby elkanofan » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:04 pm

theHotHead wrote:Regarding Torreira, no, YOU think you addressed it and I told you that you are chatting rubbish. You proclaimed Torreria was given license to be the most offensive of the 3 CMs, presumably by Emery. I said thats rubbish because he is not the best offensively out of the 3 CM so why would Emery make that decision unless he was a complete jackass, which I presume he is not. So if you are sticking to your argument then I have to laugh.


This is so easy.

Out of the three. Guendouzi, Xhaka and Torreria

- Who is the fastest? Torreria
- Who has scored the most goals recently or even going on last season? Torreria
- Who has the best stamina and agility to motor up and down the pitch? Very easy answer. Torreria.

Hence why Emery gave him that role.

None of the three are attack minded, that's exactly why all three where picked to keep things tight, not play naively and leave easy spaces to be exploited like vs Watford.

Its funny because if you knew tactics and if your knew or players strengths a little more you would know Torreria has everything to be a top center mid and play box to box just with a primary defensive mindset and an engine to support the attack. He did this really well next to Ramsey last year when we played 343, then Ramsey got injured vs Napoli which was one injury too far and the team died.

theHotHead wrote: Regarding Ceballos not starting vs Man U, your argument is he is defensively shit and not fit enough to last 90 mins. But he is good enough offensively to run the show - offensively, so why not let him start, even if you get 60 mins he will have run the Man U midfielders ragged and we can bring on someone to take his place, thats the entire point of having substitutes. Not starting him and asking a specialist DM to supplement the creativity in the team is lunacy.


Simple. Because his defensive deficiencies are a bigger issue to the balance of the team than what he could do on the ball in attack. This showed in the second half when he can on. He was great on the ball but i was shitting myself with how weak we were defensively when he came on. United would have scored at least 2-3 goals if he started. All United's good chances came in the second half and many where created down the side Ceballos was stationed in midfield.

Ceballos was wonderful today vs Liege, but its Liege, a good Championship level team, not Man United at Old Trafford!

theHotHead wrote: Regarding Ceballos tackling back, you play players like Ozil and Ceballos and do not focus on their defensive game. They are offensive players and a manager with half a brain cell will ensure the team around them are able to cover the defensive duties. but when the manager makes stupid decisions as Emery has been you see the team struggle so badly defensively. We are worse now than we have EVER been defensively, since I have watched Arsenal. Emery is a defensive clown. He can't get the team to defend and he can't get the best out of his offensive players. This is a failure of epic proportions.


This one is simple. Emery gave Ozil a very suitable 442 diamond formation and gave him his favourite position and provided Ceballos behind him si we could keep possession and dominate the ball vs watford. Just like he did at his peak period with Arsenal with Santi behind him.

Ozil failed miserably and was by far the worst player in the pitch. He's a shit player now and your naive defence of him is why you have no point whatsoever here, your just shouting, you need to get real and watch the Watford game again and see the truth to how poor a player Ozil is now.

We don't know for sure what's happening behind the scenes but I'm happy Ozil will soon leave in January. We need his wages taken off our books so we can buy a real attacking midfielder to work and dual with Ceballos.

theHotHead wrote: Mate, you keep harping on about having knowledge of the game and everyone bar YOU can see that you have no knowledge at all, telling everyone you have knowledge doesn't mean it is so. As for shouting loud, what the f**k are you talking about dweeb !!!


Lol this is funny. Here is a translation to what you said

"I AM LOUDER THAN YOU THEREFORE YOU ARE WROOOONG SAYYYZZ MEEE!!!!!"
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Re: Unai Emery, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:10 pm

Tonight showed what everyone already knew that Torreira should be played at CDM.

Was quietly being the base of the midfield soaking up loose balls, making challenges, breaking up play and being the out ball for our midfield when they needed to pass it back.

Still needs to get to top form but he was solid 2nd half and unlike Xhaka protected the ball and helped tick things over as the play progressed up field.

Another statement of him being defensive is he was constantly off loading the final ball to Cebellos or Willock, players he knows are better at that advanced play than he is.

If Emery stops fkin around with his position he'll back to his best in no time.
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Re: Unai Emery, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby VCC » Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:03 am

Hope project youth Carrie's over to the PL games
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Re: Unai Emery, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby Zanatos3 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:00 pm

HEADLINE : Ozil doesn't 'deserve' to be in Arsenal team, says Emery

https://www.goal.com/en/news/ozil-doesnt-deserve-to-be-in-arsenal-team-says-emery/23cubbwzzkxd198prt0uhg6ux

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