Kai Havertz (29)

[Salibatelli]

6/10 performance

Started on 5 as do all players. Got a point for his part in the sending off. Another point for not f***ing up. Lost a point for missing a sitter.

That's the 6. Bit of a nothing game overall and the fact him not messing up is his best contribution for a 65m player is pretty sad.

He's not the answer unless the question is who shouldn't start? But with Jesus never fit and not that good when he is and Eddie being lol worthy, he's all we got

At the stadium we all wanted him to go off for trossard. The groans when he didn't was deafening.

Fortunately it didn't cost us

I would give it a 7 out of 10, so we are not a million miles apart

6 out of 10 is certainly not the poor game that some people are arguing for!!

People argued it wasnt a good game, not that he was poor, I gave him 6.5 out of 10 kinds average, maybe slightly above average.

But given his status and cost that isn’t a good game.

[Angelito]

A lot of you guys aren't seeing the forest for the trees. It's not like he's a bad player or anything. But when you have to restructure an entire team to accommodate a man who clearly wasn't worth £65m and isn't worth his base £275k wages, there will be a bone of contention.

He might turn out to be the greatest player in this club's history. I hope he does. But as of now, we're back to adopting Chelsea's strategy of using him as a CF because he doesn't seem to fit anywhere else.

Fans are allowed to voice their criticism. It's not an unthinkable sin.

Is it his fault? It's not.

But as of now, it appears as if that he's much more suited for the CF role than the LCM role. Chelsea fans had forewarned us about this.

Here's hoping he delivers at Arsenal, otherwise, we're set to lose money on him. And, with FFP already on our back, that's really not nice.

[Salibatelli]

It’s funny because a number of people were saying he wasn’t a CF when he signed and that Chelsea were playing him in the wrong position and that’s why he failed.

The call was that he was Xhaka’s replacement and an attacking midfielder and couldn’t operate well as CF, now there’s been a 360 u turn and it’s that he can’t play in midfield.

Thing is he spent the majority of his time at Chelsea up front and wasn’t very good at it, saw him play there against us and it was always a joy as the guy would miss chances and/or do very little.

I think most knew what we were getting when we signed him and it turns out they were spot on, he’s the same player that couldn’t hack it at Chelsea.

[Nuggets]

A lot of you guys aren't seeing the forest for the trees. It's not like he's a bad player or anything. But when you have to restructure an entire team to accommodate a man who clearly wasn't worth £65m and isn't worth his base £275k wages, there will be a bone of contention.

He might turn out to be the greatest player in this club's history. I hope he does. But as of now, we're back to adopting Chelsea's strategy of using him as a CF because he doesn't seem to fit anywhere else.

Fans are allowed to voice their criticism. It's not an unthinkable sin.

Is it his fault? It's not.

But as of now, it appears as if that he's much more suited for the CF role than the LCM role. Chelsea fans had forewarned us about this.

Here's hoping he delivers at Arsenal, otherwise, we're set to lose money on him. And, with FFP already on our back, that's really not nice.

Good post.

[swipe right]

A lot of you guys aren't seeing the forest for the trees. It's not like he's a bad player or anything. But when you have to restructure an entire team to accommodate a man who clearly wasn't worth £65m and isn't worth his base £275k wages, there will be a bone of contention.

He might turn out to be the greatest player in this club's history. I hope he does. But as of now, we're back to adopting Chelsea's strategy of using him as a CF because he doesn't seem to fit anywhere else.

Fans are allowed to voice their criticism. It's not an unthinkable sin.

Is it his fault? It's not.

But as of now, it appears as if that he's much more suited for the CF role than the LCM role. Chelsea fans had forewarned us about this.

Here's hoping he delivers at Arsenal, otherwise, we're set to lose money on him. And, with FFP already on our back, that's really not nice.

So how come the manager didn’t figure this out? Arrogance maybe?

[theHotHead]

He isn't a CF at all, that doesn't man he can't go up for headers or hold the ball up, every player should be able to do that, its basics.~

None of this changes the fact that he had a good game the other day and wasn't shit or poor as some people are claiming.

[Salibatelli]

So he’s not a CF and he’s not a midfielder.

What is he then, a left back like he was for Germany?

Imagine buying a 65 million pound player, making him the highest paid player at the club and in having no specialist position where he excels.

[theHotHead]

I think DG got it right, he is a false 9

[Nuggets]

So he’s not a CF and he’s not a midfielder.

What is he then, a left back like he was for Germany?

Imagine buying a 65 million pound player, making him the highest paid player at the club and in having no specialist position where he excels.

It makes you think WTF was he bought?

[22-0]

So he’s not a CF and he’s not a midfielder.

What is he then, a left back like he was for Germany?

Imagine buying a 65 million pound player, making him the highest paid player at the club and in having no specialist position where he excels.

It makes you think WTF was he bought?

One of the reasons why i have zero faith in Arteta and co.

[Nuggets]

So he’s not a CF and he’s not a midfielder.

What is he then, a left back like he was for Germany?

Imagine buying a 65 million pound player, making him the highest paid player at the club and in having no specialist position where he excels.

It makes you think WTF was he bought?

One of the reasons why i have zero faith in Arteta and co.

Snap.

[Salibatelli]

I think DG got it right, he is a false 9

That’s basically where he played at Chelsea isn’t it and where he was poor and people defended him by saying he wasn’t one.

Doesn’t score enough goals to be a number 9 IMO and even if we ignored that (personally I think goals is fundamental to a number 9 particular in a team with no other specialist finisher), he doesn’t really contribute enough, that’s been for his entire career in England.

Effectively we now have 3 number 9s that don’t really score a lot.

[Nuggets]

I think DG got it right, he is a false 9

That’s basically where he played at Chelsea isn’t it and where he was poor and people defended him by saying he wasn’t one.

Doesn’t score enough goals to be a number 9 IMO and even if we ignored that (personally I think goals is fundamental to a number 9 particular in a team with no other specialist finisher), he doesn’t really contribute enough, that’s been for his entire career in England.

Effectively we now have 3 number 9s that don’t really score a lot.

[Rockape]

This thread is getting very boring.....we've all been saying pretty much the same thing since page 5. Thats 257 pages ago!

[theHotHead]

I think DG got it right, he is a false 9

That’s basically where he played at Chelsea isn’t it and where he was poor and people defended him by saying he wasn’t one.

Doesn’t score enough goals to be a number 9 IMO and even if we ignored that (personally I think goals is fundamental to a number 9 particular in a team with no other specialist finisher), he doesn’t really contribute enough, that’s been for his entire career in England.

Effectively we now have 3 number 9s that don’t really score a lot.

I thought he played as a CF at Chelsea