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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby theHotHead » Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:58 pm

Salibatelli wrote:The goal yesterday lol, knew nothing about it, hardly counts.

Scored 3 others of course, the final goal in a rout against Bolton when they were well beaten (would expect a decent from man to score at least a couple against such a poor side).

So overall he’s been ok, but his goalscoring leaves a lot to he desired and two of those goals which were unimportant (and very fortunate in the last game), inflate his numbers somewhat.

His strength seems to be, dark arts and making a nuissance of himself, as for outstanding qualities, doesn’t really have any, just a physical player who uses a lot of gamesmanship and generally scores easy goals.

Stop chatting rubbish, of course it counts!!

Jesus wouldn't have scored that because he wouldn't have made that run or been in that position, thats what Havertz does so well. If Havertz wasn't there that goal wouldn't have been scored.
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby Salibatelli » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:37 pm

theHotHead wrote:
Salibatelli wrote:The goal yesterday lol, knew nothing about it, hardly counts.

Scored 3 others of course, the final goal in a rout against Bolton when they were well beaten (would expect a decent from man to score at least a couple against such a poor side).

So overall he’s been ok, but his goalscoring leaves a lot to he desired and two of those goals which were unimportant (and very fortunate in the last game), inflate his numbers somewhat.

His strength seems to be, dark arts and making a nuissance of himself, as for outstanding qualities, doesn’t really have any, just a physical player who uses a lot of gamesmanship and generally scores easy goals.

Stop chatting rubbish, of course it counts!!

Jesus wouldn't have scored that because he wouldn't have made that run or been in that position, thats what Havertz does so well. If Havertz wasn't there that goal wouldn't have been scored.


Are you alright?

It’s bounced of him, he knew nothing about it, pure luck, could have gone anywhere but it bounced off him, it could have gone 5 yards further back and he wouldn’t be in the right place.

How anyone can attribute that to his awareness/skills is beyond me.
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby Marsbar100 » Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:51 pm

Tbf he could score 30 goals of his knob I don’t care how they are scored.
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby swipe right » Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:43 am

theHotHead wrote:
Ach wrote:Ultimately not good enough. Not as woeful as he was in first half of last season in midfield and he's gone from sell level to squad level but starter? We need a striker

How/why not good enough? He has 3 goals and an assist in 6 league games this season, whats wrong with that?

Less than a goal every two games is poor for a striker at the highest level.
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby swipe right » Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:45 am

Marsbar100 wrote:Tbf he could score 30 goals of his knob I don’t care how they are scored.

But he won’t. More likely he’ll have another 10-15 goals season which won’t be enough.
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby swipe right » Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:46 am

theHotHead wrote:
Salibatelli wrote:The goal yesterday lol, knew nothing about it, hardly counts.

Scored 3 others of course, the final goal in a rout against Bolton when they were well beaten (would expect a decent from man to score at least a couple against such a poor side).

So overall he’s been ok, but his goalscoring leaves a lot to he desired and two of those goals which were unimportant (and very fortunate in the last game), inflate his numbers somewhat.

His strength seems to be, dark arts and making a nuissance of himself, as for outstanding qualities, doesn’t really have any, just a physical player who uses a lot of gamesmanship and generally scores easy goals.

Stop chatting rubbish, of course it counts!!

Jesus wouldn't have scored that because he wouldn't have made that run or been in that position, thats what Havertz does so well. If Havertz wasn't there that goal wouldn't have been scored.

Mate, he was offside. The only reason the goal counted is because a Leicester player passed to him.
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby theHotHead » Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:59 am

Salibatelli wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Salibatelli wrote:The goal yesterday lol, knew nothing about it, hardly counts.

Scored 3 others of course, the final goal in a rout against Bolton when they were well beaten (would expect a decent from man to score at least a couple against such a poor side).

So overall he’s been ok, but his goalscoring leaves a lot to he desired and two of those goals which were unimportant (and very fortunate in the last game), inflate his numbers somewhat.

His strength seems to be, dark arts and making a nuissance of himself, as for outstanding qualities, doesn’t really have any, just a physical player who uses a lot of gamesmanship and generally scores easy goals.

Stop chatting rubbish, of course it counts!!

Jesus wouldn't have scored that because he wouldn't have made that run or been in that position, thats what Havertz does so well. If Havertz wasn't there that goal wouldn't have been scored.


Are you alright?

It’s bounced of him, he knew nothing about it, pure luck, could have gone anywhere but it bounced off him, it could have gone 5 yards further back and he wouldn’t be in the right place.

How anyone can attribute that to his awareness/skills is beyond me.

You ignored my point which was - had he not made the run he wouldn't have been there for the ball to rebound off him. He makes good runs.
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby theHotHead » Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:01 am

swipe right wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Ach wrote:Ultimately not good enough. Not as woeful as he was in first half of last season in midfield and he's gone from sell level to squad level but starter? We need a striker

How/why not good enough? He has 3 goals and an assist in 6 league games this season, whats wrong with that?

Less than a goal every two games is poor for a striker at the highest level.

Mate your maffs is iffy !!

3 goals in 6 premier league games us not less than a goal every 2 games, it is exactly a goal every 2 games.
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby swipe right » Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:07 am

theHotHead wrote:
swipe right wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Ach wrote:Ultimately not good enough. Not as woeful as he was in first half of last season in midfield and he's gone from sell level to squad level but starter? We need a striker

How/why not good enough? He has 3 goals and an assist in 6 league games this season, whats wrong with that?

Less than a goal every two games is poor for a striker at the highest level.

Mate your maffs is iffy !!

3 goals in 6 premier league games us not less than a goal every 2 games, it is exactly a goal every 2 games.

Phew. Thanks for pointing that out. Makes me feel so much better about him.
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby theHotHead » Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:10 am

swipe right wrote:
Marsbar100 wrote:Tbf he could score 30 goals of his knob I don’t care how they are scored.

But he won’t. More likely he’ll have another 10-15 goals season which won’t be enough.

His numbers since being a CF (Feb 2024) do not agree with you.

He played 15 games and scored 9 goals. This season 6 games and scored 3. So that's 21 league games and currently scored 12 goals and I haven't even mentioned the 7 assists he has made!
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby theHotHead » Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:11 am

swipe right wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Salibatelli wrote:The goal yesterday lol, knew nothing about it, hardly counts.

Scored 3 others of course, the final goal in a rout against Bolton when they were well beaten (would expect a decent from man to score at least a couple against such a poor side).

So overall he’s been ok, but his goalscoring leaves a lot to he desired and two of those goals which were unimportant (and very fortunate in the last game), inflate his numbers somewhat.

His strength seems to be, dark arts and making a nuissance of himself, as for outstanding qualities, doesn’t really have any, just a physical player who uses a lot of gamesmanship and generally scores easy goals.

Stop chatting rubbish, of course it counts!!

Jesus wouldn't have scored that because he wouldn't have made that run or been in that position, thats what Havertz does so well. If Havertz wasn't there that goal wouldn't have been scored.

Mate, he was offside. The only reason the goal counted is because a Leicester player passed to him.

So by the rules of the game he cannot be offside then.

You just countered your own point bro
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby theHotHead » Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:13 am

swipe right wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
swipe right wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Ach wrote:Ultimately not good enough. Not as woeful as he was in first half of last season in midfield and he's gone from sell level to squad level but starter? We need a striker

How/why not good enough? He has 3 goals and an assist in 6 league games this season, whats wrong with that?

Less than a goal every two games is poor for a striker at the highest level.

Mate your maffs is iffy !!

3 goals in 6 premier league games us not less than a goal every 2 games, it is exactly a goal every 2 games.

Phew. Thanks for pointing that out. Makes me feel so much better about him.

Mock all you want. Everyone knows that a goal every other game is the strike rate of a good striker, your average striker will get 1 in 3
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby theHotHead » Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:14 am

I am so glad we didnt buy Maddison, the more I see of him the more wank he is !
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby TedLasso » Tue Oct 01, 2024 12:03 pm

theHotHead wrote:I am so glad we didnt buy Maddison, the more I see of him the more wank he is !


Real ballers could see this. He’s perfect for Spurs.
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Oct 01, 2024 12:23 pm

TedLasso wrote:
theHotHead wrote:I am so glad we didnt buy Maddison, the more I see of him the more wank he is !


Real ballers could see this. He’s perfect for Spurs.



Agree - i never understood the Maddison love here.
Mid player who at his highest level now, playing for Spurs.
There is a reason no big club wanted him - even at £30m
He's a good player.
He can have great games from time to time and he can even string together a short run, but over a season? No.
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