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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby VCC » Sun Jan 26, 2025 3:16 pm

A miss compilation needs to be made from all of his football chelski German and Arsenal. I have seen about 3 but none put together.
We have signed players with less highlight reels than his miss reels.
Arteta an not have internet access he is a fucken repeat serial offender almost identical misses over and over for different teams
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby alexis2015finalgoal » Sun Jan 26, 2025 4:03 pm

man's career is based off a CL winner and some prolific form in the Bundesliga. tbf to him, his goal ratio this season is pretty decent. 8 goals in 19 PL games is fair for a non-striker. Solanke at Sprus IS a striker and Havertz's goals to game ratio is superior.
he's not it though. We clearly need more.
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:42 pm

alexis2015finalgoal wrote:man's career is based off a CL winner and some prolific form in the Bundesliga. tbf to him, his goal ratio this season is pretty decent. 8 goals in 19 PL games is fair for a non-striker. Solanke at Sprus IS a striker and Havertz's goals to game ratio is superior.
he's not it though. We clearly need more.


The fact that his form has to be compared to Solanke's says everything about his stature as a PL player. Grading his output relative to those in the bottom half of the table than the top.

In terms of G/A in the league, he is currently 20th. Nicolas Jackson, who can't hit a barn door most days, is well above him despite playing fewer minutes.

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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby MathyGooner » Sun Jan 26, 2025 6:20 pm

He's not good enough to be a striker, period. We need to get a proper striker in this dying January window. He needs to find another position he can make his own, whether it be at Arsenal or elsewhere.
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby theHotHead » Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:19 pm

I can no longer put my support behind Havertz, its getting past a joke now, these misses are unforgivable.
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:46 pm

MathyGooner wrote:He's not good enough to be a striker, period. We need to get a proper striker in this dying January window. He needs to find another position he can make his own, whether it be at Arsenal or elsewhere.


It won't be at Arsenal. This guy wouldn't be anywhere near the 22/23 squad when it looked like the process was paying off with a powerful squad of young, hungry players on reasonable wages. Then we had our collapse and Arteta lost his mind and made this guy the instant top earner at the club. Total antithesis of his own philosophy.
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby alexis2015finalgoal » Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:49 pm

Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
alexis2015finalgoal wrote:man's career is based off a CL winner and some prolific form in the Bundesliga. tbf to him, his goal ratio this season is pretty decent. 8 goals in 19 PL games is fair for a non-striker. Solanke at Sprus IS a striker and Havertz's goals to game ratio is superior.
he's not it though. We clearly need more.


The fact that his form has to be compared to Solanke's says everything about his stature as a PL player. Grading his output relative to those in the bottom half of the table than the top.

In terms of G/A in the league, he is currently 20th. Nicolas Jackson, who can't hit a barn door most days, is well above him despite playing fewer minutes.

https://www.transfermarkt.us/premier-le ... bewerb/GB1

assists aren't important. he has 14 goals in 30 games, which for a non-striker isn't bad. that said, he's clearly not the answer. he's a square peg in a round hole even if his numbers on paper aren't bad.
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:54 pm

alexis2015finalgoal wrote:
Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
alexis2015finalgoal wrote:man's career is based off a CL winner and some prolific form in the Bundesliga. tbf to him, his goal ratio this season is pretty decent. 8 goals in 19 PL games is fair for a non-striker. Solanke at Sprus IS a striker and Havertz's goals to game ratio is superior.
he's not it though. We clearly need more.


The fact that his form has to be compared to Solanke's says everything about his stature as a PL player. Grading his output relative to those in the bottom half of the table than the top.

In terms of G/A in the league, he is currently 20th. Nicolas Jackson, who can't hit a barn door most days, is well above him despite playing fewer minutes.

https://www.transfermarkt.us/premier-le ... bewerb/GB1

assists aren't important. he has 14 goals in 30 games, which for a non-striker isn't bad. that said, he's clearly not the answer. he's a square peg in a round hole even if his numbers on paper aren't bad.


If assists aren't important, the top scorers in the league wouldn't have loads of them. Comparing Havertz to non strikers is something non-winning teams do to justify their output. Winning teams move them on fast.
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby theHotHead » Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:21 am

For me you have to look at goals and assists, footie is no longer meat and 2 veg, players are doing all sorts now

There was a time a winger was judged on his assists because that's what he did, made assists, no 9s were not creating but they are now. So to remove assists from Havertz game is unfair.

But I am not defending him like I said, nope, not anymore.
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby VCC » Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:11 am

Assists do play a part but when you assist the opposition more it's time to sit it out
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby alexis2015finalgoal » Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:05 pm

Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
alexis2015finalgoal wrote:
Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
alexis2015finalgoal wrote:man's career is based off a CL winner and some prolific form in the Bundesliga. tbf to him, his goal ratio this season is pretty decent. 8 goals in 19 PL games is fair for a non-striker. Solanke at Sprus IS a striker and Havertz's goals to game ratio is superior.
he's not it though. We clearly need more.


The fact that his form has to be compared to Solanke's says everything about his stature as a PL player. Grading his output relative to those in the bottom half of the table than the top.

In terms of G/A in the league, he is currently 20th. Nicolas Jackson, who can't hit a barn door most days, is well above him despite playing fewer minutes.

https://www.transfermarkt.us/premier-le ... bewerb/GB1

assists aren't important. he has 14 goals in 30 games, which for a non-striker isn't bad. that said, he's clearly not the answer. he's a square peg in a round hole even if his numbers on paper aren't bad.


As number 9 his job is to score goals, not assist. the facts and stats stand. in terms of goals alone, he is performing reasonably well. that doesn't mean he is he answer. he's clearly not.
If assists aren't important, the top scorers in the league wouldn't have loads of them. Comparing Havertz to non strikers is something non-winning teams do to justify their output. Winning teams move them on fast.
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby Ach » Sun Feb 02, 2025 5:20 pm

If i was as bad at my job as Havertz is at his, I'd be sacked

Don't ever compare footballers to normal people

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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby VCC » Sun Feb 02, 2025 5:26 pm

Not watching this at work but he is down for a assist
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby Jedi » Sun Feb 02, 2025 5:29 pm

That miss screamed "I'm out of confidence".

Need offensive signing ASAP to change the narrative and put some pressure off of Havertz who is an excellent contributor when he's not in the spotlight.
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Re: Kai Havertz (29)

Postby Ach » Sun Feb 02, 2025 5:29 pm

Even the assist, most strikers go for goals themselves. He passed on responsibility with a shit bouncy pass that Odegaard did well to get a shot in but went in off a defender so it was nearly blocked which wouldn't have been the case had the pass been better
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