by ag6789 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:01 pm
by Dejan » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:06 pm
?Mike Dean wrote:Better game from him today.
by alexafc12 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:28 pm
ag6789 wrote:I thought he did play ok in parts. Not a finished product either. Should be playing further forward and Torreira should be behind him.
by swipe right » Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:52 pm
by VCC » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:30 am
swipe right wrote:Remember when Unai Ultras claimed he was better than Ozil
by Mike Dean » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:18 am
VCC wrote:swipe right wrote:Remember when Unai Ultras claimed he was better than Ozil
He is better at least he puts 100% effort in with and with out the ball
Ozil has had a couple of good performances against kids and wolves, you acting like he just beat liverpool PL team by himself,
Let's not get carried away and see how long it lasts.
by VCC » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:22 am
Mike Dean wrote:VCC wrote:swipe right wrote:Remember when Unai Ultras claimed he was better than Ozil
He is better at least he puts 100% effort in with and with out the ball
Ozil has had a couple of good performances against kids and wolves, you acting like he just beat liverpool PL team by himself,
Let's not get carried away and see how long it lasts.
Putting in an 100% effort does not = better.
This is what got Emery in trouble.
by Mike Dean » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:32 am
VCC wrote:Mike Dean wrote:VCC wrote:swipe right wrote:Remember when Unai Ultras claimed he was better than Ozil
He is better at least he puts 100% effort in with and with out the ball
Ozil has had a couple of good performances against kids and wolves, you acting like he just beat liverpool PL team by himself,
Let's not get carried away and see how long it lasts.
Putting in an 100% effort does not = better.
This is what got Emery in trouble.
Agreed but apart from the weekend we are used to about 40% effort from Ozil defending, granted he had a decent performance on the week end DECENT hopefully it lasts and hopefully we continue to see effort defensively.but he is far from the messiah
by VCC » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:42 am
Mike Dean wrote:VCC wrote:Mike Dean wrote:VCC wrote:swipe right wrote:Remember when Unai Ultras claimed he was better than Ozil
He is better at least he puts 100% effort in with and with out the ball
Ozil has had a couple of good performances against kids and wolves, you acting like he just beat liverpool PL team by himself,
Let's not get carried away and see how long it lasts.
Putting in an 100% effort does not = better.
This is what got Emery in trouble.
Agreed but apart from the weekend we are used to about 40% effort from Ozil defending, granted he had a decent performance on the week end DECENT hopefully it lasts and hopefully we continue to see effort defensively.but he is far from the messiah
Of course Ozil has his defensive liabilities but at the same time Ceballos, from the chances he has been given, has not shown to be the better player than Ozil.
Early on, a lot of folks had their hopes pinned on Ceballos to carry the playmaker's mantle. He has been given opportunities but has not done well in that role.
Ideally he needs to be played WITH Ozil. He needs to be filling in the Santi role.
My biggest complaints of him is that he holds onto the ball for too long and he also gives it away in some very dangerous positions. Guendouzi is guilty of the same so I am not sure if it is a Emery or training issue.
by theHotHead » Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:34 am
by VCC » Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:57 am
theHotHead wrote:VCC and others, you need to let the "Ozil lack of effort/defending" narrative go. Ozil has NEVER EVER defended anywhere he has been so why do people harp on about it!! Thats not his game, never has been, so criticising it is pointless.
It is also proven than Ozil covers as much distance as anyone else, so he is NOT lazy.
Now, if you want to make the argument that, given he is a creator and he does not create enough, you would get a far weaker argument from me because it is true. Now, I would say there are mitigating circumstances, like dufus managers and managers trying to alienate him but the fact is he has put in far too many sub-standard performances over the past 2 seasons.
by Salibatelli » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:00 am