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Re: Potential Alexis Sanchez Replacement Thread

Postby Arsene Nose » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:34 pm

CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:RVP is the best player we've had in the Emirates era.

That doesn't change the fact that Sanchez is a top 5 winger in the world.

Also, 18 goals and 9 assists in the league...How is his impact overestimated?

He is a sensational player, our best, will be missed. But we dont need two players to replace him. If Wenger sorts out the midfield we could get a similar output from Insigne or Lacazette.


Do you think either of the following would be good enough to win a major trophy next season:

Better Midfield Pair
Walcott --- Ozil --- Iwobi
Lacazette Tier ST


OR


Better Midfield Pair
Walcott --- Ozil --- Insigne Tier WF
Giroud

nope. by major trophy i assume you mean PL.


Yes, PL or CL. If the above teams aren't good enough, what would you add or change to improve our chances

We have zero chance in the CL. No English team does, barring a fluke. The knockout schedule of the CL coincides with the business end of the PL season meaning English teams cant deal with both.

The PL is more straightforward. We need a flexible, rugged squad that can go 38 games and 10 months without breaking down. My starting 11 would be as follows with subs in ()

--------------New Striker
Sanchez----New ACM-----Welbeck
---------New CM---Xhaka
Mon---Kos--Mus--Bellerin
Cech

(Giroud, Perez, Elneny, Gibbs, Maitland Niles, Gabriel, Martinez)
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Re: Potential Alexis Sanchez Replacement Thread

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:39 pm

Arsene Nose wrote:
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:RVP is the best player we've had in the Emirates era.

That doesn't change the fact that Sanchez is a top 5 winger in the world.

Also, 18 goals and 9 assists in the league...How is his impact overestimated?

He is a sensational player, our best, will be missed. But we dont need two players to replace him. If Wenger sorts out the midfield we could get a similar output from Insigne or Lacazette.


Do you think either of the following would be good enough to win a major trophy next season:

Better Midfield Pair
Walcott --- Ozil --- Iwobi
Lacazette Tier ST


OR


Better Midfield Pair
Walcott --- Ozil --- Insigne Tier WF
Giroud

nope. by major trophy i assume you mean PL.


Yes, PL or CL. If the above teams aren't good enough, what would you add or change to improve our chances

We have zero chance in the CL. No English team does, barring a fluke. The knockout schedule of the CL coincides with the business end of the PL season meaning English teams cant deal with both.

The PL is more straightforward. We need a flexible, rugged squad that can go 38 games and 10 months without breaking down. My starting 11 would be as follows with subs in ()

--------------New Striker
Sanchez----New ACM-----Welbeck
---------New CM---Xhaka
Mon---Kos--Mus--Bellerin
Cech

(Giroud, Perez, Elneny, Gibbs, Maitland Niles, Gabriel, Martinez)


Sorry, let me rephrase the question: Assuming you could not keep sanchez, would either of these teams be as good or better than what we have currently

Current Midfield Options
Walcott --- Ozil --- Iwobi
Lacazette Tier ST


OR


Current Midfield Options
Walcott --- Ozil --- Insigne Tier WF
Giroud
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Re: Potential Alexis Sanchez Replacement Thread

Postby Arsene Nose » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:07 pm

CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:RVP is the best player we've had in the Emirates era.

That doesn't change the fact that Sanchez is a top 5 winger in the world.

Also, 18 goals and 9 assists in the league...How is his impact overestimated?

He is a sensational player, our best, will be missed. But we dont need two players to replace him. If Wenger sorts out the midfield we could get a similar output from Insigne or Lacazette.


Do you think either of the following would be good enough to win a major trophy next season:

Better Midfield Pair
Walcott --- Ozil --- Iwobi
Lacazette Tier ST


OR


Better Midfield Pair
Walcott --- Ozil --- Insigne Tier WF
Giroud

nope. by major trophy i assume you mean PL.


Yes, PL or CL. If the above teams aren't good enough, what would you add or change to improve our chances

We have zero chance in the CL. No English team does, barring a fluke. The knockout schedule of the CL coincides with the business end of the PL season meaning English teams cant deal with both.

The PL is more straightforward. We need a flexible, rugged squad that can go 38 games and 10 months without breaking down. My starting 11 would be as follows with subs in ()

--------------New Striker
Sanchez----New ACM-----Welbeck
---------New CM---Xhaka
Mon---Kos--Mus--Bellerin
Cech

(Giroud, Perez, Elneny, Gibbs, Maitland Niles, Gabriel, Martinez)


Sorry, let me rephrase the question: Assuming you could not keep sanchez, would either of these teams be as good or better than what we have currently

Current Midfield Options
Walcott --- Ozil --- Iwobi
Lacazette Tier ST


OR


Current Midfield Options
Walcott --- Ozil --- Insigne Tier WF
Giroud

Q: Assuming you could not keep sanchez, would either of these teams be as good or better than what we have currently
A: Not better, maybe as good if Cazrola is in central midfield. Though I'd pick Welbeck on the flank over Walcott. Would achieve the same league position as this season.
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Re: Potential Alexis Sanchez Replacement Thread

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:36 pm

Arsene Nose wrote:
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:RVP is the best player we've had in the Emirates era.

That doesn't change the fact that Sanchez is a top 5 winger in the world.

Also, 18 goals and 9 assists in the league...How is his impact overestimated?

He is a sensational player, our best, will be missed. But we dont need two players to replace him. If Wenger sorts out the midfield we could get a similar output from Insigne or Lacazette.


Do you think either of the following would be good enough to win a major trophy next season:

Better Midfield Pair
Walcott --- Ozil --- Iwobi
Lacazette Tier ST


OR


Better Midfield Pair
Walcott --- Ozil --- Insigne Tier WF
Giroud

nope. by major trophy i assume you mean PL.


Yes, PL or CL. If the above teams aren't good enough, what would you add or change to improve our chances

We have zero chance in the CL. No English team does, barring a fluke. The knockout schedule of the CL coincides with the business end of the PL season meaning English teams cant deal with both.

The PL is more straightforward. We need a flexible, rugged squad that can go 38 games and 10 months without breaking down. My starting 11 would be as follows with subs in ()

--------------New Striker
Sanchez----New ACM-----Welbeck
---------New CM---Xhaka
Mon---Kos--Mus--Bellerin
Cech

(Giroud, Perez, Elneny, Gibbs, Maitland Niles, Gabriel, Martinez)


Sorry, let me rephrase the question: Assuming you could not keep sanchez, would either of these teams be as good or better than what we have currently

Current Midfield Options
Walcott --- Ozil --- Iwobi
Lacazette Tier ST


OR


Current Midfield Options
Walcott --- Ozil --- Insigne Tier WF
Giroud

Q: Assuming you could not keep sanchez, would either of these teams be as good or better than what we have currently
A: Not better, maybe as good if Cazrola is in central midfield. Though I'd pick Welbeck on the flank over Walcott. Would achieve the same league position as this season.


So in other words, you think we would be in the same league position if we had a Lacazette or Insigne type player instead of Sanchez. You are entitled to your opinion but, imo, we would be far lower in the table.
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Re: Potential Alexis Sanchez Replacement Thread

Postby Arsene Nose » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:31 pm

CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:RVP is the best player we've had in the Emirates era.

That doesn't change the fact that Sanchez is a top 5 winger in the world.

Also, 18 goals and 9 assists in the league...How is his impact overestimated?

He is a sensational player, our best, will be missed. But we dont need two players to replace him. If Wenger sorts out the midfield we could get a similar output from Insigne or Lacazette.


Do you think either of the following would be good enough to win a major trophy next season:

Better Midfield Pair
Walcott --- Ozil --- Iwobi
Lacazette Tier ST


OR


Better Midfield Pair
Walcott --- Ozil --- Insigne Tier WF
Giroud

nope. by major trophy i assume you mean PL.


Yes, PL or CL. If the above teams aren't good enough, what would you add or change to improve our chances

We have zero chance in the CL. No English team does, barring a fluke. The knockout schedule of the CL coincides with the business end of the PL season meaning English teams cant deal with both.

The PL is more straightforward. We need a flexible, rugged squad that can go 38 games and 10 months without breaking down. My starting 11 would be as follows with subs in ()

--------------New Striker
Sanchez----New ACM-----Welbeck
---------New CM---Xhaka
Mon---Kos--Mus--Bellerin
Cech

(Giroud, Perez, Elneny, Gibbs, Maitland Niles, Gabriel, Martinez)


Sorry, let me rephrase the question: Assuming you could not keep sanchez, would either of these teams be as good or better than what we have currently

Current Midfield Options
Walcott --- Ozil --- Iwobi
Lacazette Tier ST


OR


Current Midfield Options
Walcott --- Ozil --- Insigne Tier WF
Giroud

Q: Assuming you could not keep sanchez, would either of these teams be as good or better than what we have currently
A: Not better, maybe as good if Cazrola is in central midfield. Though I'd pick Welbeck on the flank over Walcott. Would achieve the same league position as this season.


So in other words, you think we would be in the same league position if we had a Lacazette or Insigne type player instead of Sanchez. You are entitled to your opinion but, imo, we would be far lower in the table.

if you go on the merits of this season alone, Giroud has given us more point-gaining goals than Sanchez. but yeah, I hear you it's not a good scene either ways,
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Re: Potential Alexis Sanchez Replacement Thread

Postby starmandb » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:00 pm

Arsene Nose wrote:
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:RVP is the best player we've had in the Emirates era.

That doesn't change the fact that Sanchez is a top 5 winger in the world.

Also, 18 goals and 9 assists in the league...How is his impact overestimated?

He is a sensational player, our best, will be missed. But we dont need two players to replace him. If Wenger sorts out the midfield we could get a similar output from Insigne or Lacazette.


Do you think either of the following would be good enough to win a major trophy next season:

Better Midfield Pair
Walcott --- Ozil --- Iwobi
Lacazette Tier ST


OR


Better Midfield Pair
Walcott --- Ozil --- Insigne Tier WF
Giroud

nope. by major trophy i assume you mean PL.


Yes, PL or CL. If the above teams aren't good enough, what would you add or change to improve our chances

We have zero chance in the CL. No English team does, barring a fluke. The knockout schedule of the CL coincides with the business end of the PL season meaning English teams cant deal with both.

The PL is more straightforward. We need a flexible, rugged squad that can go 38 games and 10 months without breaking down. My starting 11 would be as follows with subs in ()

--------------New Striker
Sanchez----New ACM-----Welbeck
---------New CM---Xhaka
Mon---Kos--Mus--Bellerin
Cech

(Giroud, Perez, Elneny, Gibbs, Maitland Niles, Gabriel, Martinez)


Sorry, let me rephrase the question: Assuming you could not keep sanchez, would either of these teams be as good or better than what we have currently

Current Midfield Options
Walcott --- Ozil --- Iwobi
Lacazette Tier ST


OR


Current Midfield Options
Walcott --- Ozil --- Insigne Tier WF
Giroud

Q: Assuming you could not keep sanchez, would either of these teams be as good or better than what we have currently
A: Not better, maybe as good if Cazrola is in central midfield. Though I'd pick Welbeck on the flank over Walcott. Would achieve the same league position as this season.


So in other words, you think we would be in the same league position if we had a Lacazette or Insigne type player instead of Sanchez. You are entitled to your opinion but, imo, we would be far lower in the table.

if you go on the merits of this season alone, Giroud has given us more point-gaining goals than Sanchez. but yeah, I hear you it's not a good scene either ways,

Giroud goals have earned 5 points in the league
3 in the champions league and an fa cup win at Preston
Sanchez goals have earned 7 points in the league and 1 in the champions league
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Re: Potential Alexis Sanchez Replacement Thread

Postby Arsenal Tone » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:50 am

We have plenty of second strikers and wing forwards but Giroud is our only real centre forward/proper striker.

That is why losing alexis for a lacazette or lukaku might improve us, even though we would be replacing him with someone a level or two below in terms of ability.
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Re: Potential Alexis Sanchez Replacement Thread

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:20 pm

Tony_Adams wrote:We have plenty of second strikers and wing forwards but Giroud is our only real centre forward/proper striker.

That is why losing alexis for a lacazette or lukaku might improve us, even though we would be replacing him with someone a level or two below in terms of ability.


Sorry, PG, but I disagree. The quality of our options out wide and our options in midfield are weak especially when compared to the other top PL sides. A Lukaku or a Lacazette will need to be able to carry the team themselves (like Sanchez is doing atm). The players we'll have supporting them are highly inconsistent and are not reliable over a season. This is not even considering Wenger who doesn't try to exploit our opponents' weaknesses and who rarely changes strategies even though certain players would benefit from doing so.

What I'm saying is if Sanchez leaves and we get a natural striker on the level of a Lukaku or Lacazette, we'll need another quality signing just to make up for Sanchez leaving. That's just my opinion anyway
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Re: Potential Alexis Sanchez Replacement Thread

Postby Arsene Nose » Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:32 pm

We need a CF, no doubt about it. And if Sanchez leaves we need to replace him too. Aside we also need one or maybe two new central midfielders to make up for Cazorla and Wilshere's loses. Realistically we should look at Lacazette, Rabiot and getting a visa for Nwakali.
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Re: Potential Alexis Sanchez Replacement Thread

Postby maltrain » Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:40 pm

Insigne, Mahrez or Lacazzete... at the same level of Alexis?

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Re: Potential Alexis Sanchez Replacement Thread

Postby Santi » Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:52 am

maltrain wrote:Insigne, Mahrez or Lacazzete... at the same level of Alexis?

LOL



did somebody say they were?


not only could we not replace his quality even if he had 10 years left on his deal, with the lesser fee thanks to 1 year remaining we will not get a player anywhere near as good, so these are the options.
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Re: Potential Alexis Sanchez Replacement Thread

Postby Manoban » Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:56 pm

Kun

and you know actually just give Alexis Theo, Ox or Wilshere wages and throw them away
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Re: Potential Alexis Sanchez Replacement Thread

Postby BS221B » Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:04 pm

Agüero is done at top level.

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Re: Potential Alexis Sanchez Replacement Thread

Postby Marsbar100 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:06 pm

I wish giroud and welbeck were as finished at top level as aguero is
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Re: Potential Alexis Sanchez Replacement Thread

Postby Interest: waning » Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:11 pm

Agüero has 28 goals already this season FFS.
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