by Sims » Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:48 pm
Özim wrote:Sims wrote:Özim wrote:Angelito wrote:Sims wrote:Ornstein says Arteta is the top candidate
But Mauricio Pochettino, Patrick Vieira, Carlo Ancelotti and Roberto Martinez are still being mentioned
Pochettino
Arteta
Ancelotti*
In that order.
Martinez?
Vieira? No thanks.
* Napoli are having their worst start in 7 seasons (I think) in Serie A. Even at his peak, Ancelotti wasn't a great manager in the League. I'd still take him ahead of the ones we're being linked to (Marcelino, Vieira, and all), but he's not ideal.
and what makes Arteta a good manager, his pals Pep and Wenger saying he will be? The guy wasn't even a decent player for us, the captain that always when missing and barely had a voice and was part and parcel of the setup when the club was failing to achieve anything.
God help us if we appoint him.
if we were gonna appoint him we shouldve done it in the first place insetad of the bumbling buffoon, then moved him on if he looked like a failure
tim stillman wrote about arteta here:
and this is true of arteta during his stay here
I think Arteta represented a kind of cultural symbol during his time at Arsenal. He was a bit like a ‘difficult’ Radiohead album, you either got ‘it’ or you didn’t. His game was based on intelligence, movement, subtlety and technical accuracy. To others, he was just quite a nice midfielder who passed the ball quite nicely and had a nice haircut.
i dont see anyone in the middle, it's either one or the other
Stillman is spot on, I don't get it either, but the fanbase definitely has an element of this, for years and years they believed in the Wenger smokescreen for example when it came to transfers, it's believing in the illusion that something great is happening because it once happened or someone else says it will.
I thought he was poor for us, at Everton he seemed much better, but Wenger played him in the wrong position and he was largely ineffective, I think most fans feel that way about him, a kinda nondescript player noone really remembers with any fondness because he never really did anything of note with us.
i'm the opposite. i thought arteta was a great buy at the time and behind van persie was probably the most important player for us getting into the CL when the squad was dire, he stuck the midfield togeher like glue
his conversion to a DLP was pretty good too, definitely better than any of our current midfielders and had a nasty streak in him - overran in the big games which was just an arsenal fault in general tbh. i also know a large amount who rated arteta highly during his time here as well, as i said - it's split