Next Arsenal Manager ~ General Discussion and Rumours

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Who should replace Emery?

Brendan Rodgers
7
9%
Eddie Howe
4
5%
Freddie Ljungberg
3
4%
Massimiliano Allegri
9
12%
Mauricio Pochettino
24
32%
Mikel Arteta
10
13%
Rafael Benitez
7
9%
Other
12
16%
 
Total votes : 76

Re: Next Arsenal Manager ~ General Discussion and Rumours

Postby Santi » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:52 pm

MadMax please :pray:
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Re: Next Arsenal Manager ~ General Discussion and Rumours

Postby Angelito » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:41 pm

SuperJackyWilshere wrote:
Angelito wrote:Oh please. Anyone over this shower of shit Wenger guaran-damn-tees and delivers every season.

Welcome home, Ancelotti.

Knowing Wenger and Arsenal's obsession with ManU, I wouldn't be surprised if these losers wanted Ryan Giggs as manager.

At least with Carlo, we'd know that we could reach the QFs or SFs of the CL - if we're in it, that is.


Ancelotti has been very lucky over the last few years to manage Chelsea, Madrid, PSG and Bayern. Teams that already had top players waiting for him with pretty large transfer budgets.

I'm not knocking what he's done but bare in mind he flopped at Bayern, can you really see him coming here and changing our squad around with the transfer budget we have?

That's my worry.


Oh, I know it all about Italian managers.

Ancelotti is a man manager. He's an attacking manager. Is he as good as Pep, Simeone, or Klopp? No, he's not. But he is a football coach as opposed to Wenger, who doesn't know what he is anymore.

At this stage, I'd take any semi-decent football coach over Wenger. If it's someone with the pedigree of Ancelotti, bring it on. My dream target is Simeone. I doubt we'd hire him. I wish we did.

From the rest, Ancelotti is fine to steady the ship. He's experienced and we need someone similar to him in these initial post-Wenger years. Wenger will leave us in quite a mess. We need someone to clear it up.
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Re: Next Arsenal Manager ~ General Discussion and Rumours

Postby Angelito » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:04 pm

Arsenal are crying out for change - and Antonio Conte is the man to deliver it

By Chelsea’s recent standards, Antonio Conte is reaching that point in his reign at Stamford Bridge where he will be considered ‘long-serving’.

The secret of Chelsea's success is hiring and sacking managers with rapid gunfire and the signals coming out of the club suggest they are readying themselves to pull the trigger again.

It would not surprise me – I have felt Conte will go since he made public his displeasure with transfer policy at the start of the season. But I think it would be a huge mistake if Chelsea do part company, regardless of the calibre of his replacement.

Not that they will be bothered. This is a club that sacked Jose Mourinho (twice) and Carlo Ancelotti shortly after title wins. Evidently Chelsea believe new coaches re-energise the club, a policy that has paid off spectacularly on several occasions. Coaches of the calibre of Diego Simeone and Juventus’ Massimiliano Allegri are already being strongly linked with the Chelsea job.

But we should not ignore there are also risks in regularly changing the coach, as we saw when Phil Scolari and Andre Villas-Boas failed.

For me, Conte remains the best man for Chelsea. His record since moving to Stamford Bridge is extraordinary. Despite Manchester City’s incredible run, Conte has won more Premier League points (142) and won more Premier League games (44 out of 61) than any manager since his appointment. Pep Guardiola will soon pass him, but he is not there yet.

Chelsea remain in both domestic cups, the last 16 of the Champions League and well-placed to finish runners-up in what would be a satisfactory title defence. It is too quickly forgotten Chelsea finished 10th before Conte took over. Certainly those Chelsea supporters booing the side after last weekend’s 0-0 draw with Leicester City must have wiped it from memory.

Had Conte finished in the top four in his first season Roman Abramovich would have considered it progress. No one could have expected Conte to deliver the title so soon.

Conte is an elite coach enriching the Premier League. Most clubs in the world would improve under him. We have seen his qualities, not just in his results, but in his belligerent approach off the park.

No matter how controversial it was, to take on players of the reputation and importance of Diego Costa and David Luiz demonstrates the type of character he is. To be blunt about it, you can see he is a manager who will take no s---, whether it is a player, board member or – as is the case in the public spat with Mourinho – a rival manager. In most circumstances a club would cherish having such a figurehead, not mull over letting him go.

If Conte’s situation is precarious - the Chelsea hierarchy ambivalent on his future and Conte increasingly frustrated by the structure of the club - there will be a long queue for his services. I could imagine Real Madrid considering Conte as a replacement for Zinedine Zidane, whose position looks vulnerable. The Italian national team would beg him to go back after their failure to qualify for the World Cup. There is talk of him returning to Italian football but having managed the national team and led Juventus to three Serie A titles in a row, would heading home at this stage of his career be so appealing? He has nothing more to prove in his own country.

There is one club in particular, much closer to his current home, I feel should be monitoring developments more than others; a club desperately in need of Conte’s persona, who would send a rocket through every department of their institution and instantly change perceptions.

That club is Arsenal.

I can imagine no more suitable replacement for Arsene Wenger than Conte. It would be one of the most astute managerial appointments in Premier League history.

Can you imagine Conte, disillusioned with his treatment at Chelsea, turning up at The Emirates?

Arsenal are still stuck in a cycle of mediocrity they have been unable to escape for several years. I will never lose respect for Wenger – his legacy in English football is preserved and he will always be considered one of the all-time greats – but I said last year his time was coming to an end and nothing has changed.

An opportunity was missed to make a choreographed exit at Wembley after winning the FA Cup last May, when Wenger’s last contract was expiring. That felt the right time to make a change rather than extend for another two years. Instead, the situation looks like it is deteriorating. The side selected against Bournemouth a week ago bore more resemblance to the League Cup teams Wenger picked 10 years ago. With Alexis Sanchez going, and Mesut Ozil’s future uncertain, Arsenal must rebuild, adding to the signing of Henrikh Mkhitaryan.

Wenger has 18 months left. Can a manager in that position get to work constructing a side for the next generation?

Wenger has often said he will never break a contract. If there are many more performances like at Bournemouth it might not be his decision.

Arsenal seem torn between those who want to inject much needed freshness and those still clinging to the idea their greatest manager can recreate his former glory.

You can see some evidence of forward planning with the appointment of ex-Borussia Dortmund scout Sven Mislintat as Head of Recruitment. He must have advised the club to pursue Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, but where does that leave Alexandre Lacazette, signed for £50 million last summer? I don’t see that as a partnership.

Darren Burgess, who I worked with at Liverpool, is also joining as High Performance Director so there are changes afoot.

But ultimate power still rests with Wenger.

No matter how loyal the Arsenal board, they have a duty to consider what happens when he goes. When outstanding candidates emerge you have to react. That is why I believe they should already be sounding out Conte’s camp. They will get another close look at him when the clubs meet in the Carabao Cup this week.

Conte is too good for Chelsea to let go. They should be desperately trying to keep him, not only because he will bring more success to the club, but to ensure he does not come back to haunt them when he returns with a rival.

If the Chelsea board cannot see that, Arsenal should do everything in their power to ensure it is a short tube ride to his next destination.


So what do you say, Gooners?

What do you say?
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Re: Next Arsenal Manager ~ General Discussion and Rumours

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:08 pm

Bring him home.

The fact he just verbally destroyed Mourinho is a bonus.
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Re: Max Allegri (Manager)

Postby Angelito » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:10 pm

Poll restarted with minor alterations. Vote away.
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Re: Next Arsenal Manager ~ General Discussion and Rumours

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:17 pm

Simeone still my top choice.
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Re: Next Arsenal Manager ~ General Discussion and Rumours

Postby Gooner_ESR10 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:23 pm

Simeone took an Atletico side to the CL final, so I think he's more suited to taking a not so great side like ours to higher heights.
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Re: Next Arsenal Manager ~ General Discussion and Rumours

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:56 pm

I don't really follow the work of other managers but I think I would be fine with Allegri or Conte. I would have been ok with Simeone but I'm unsure how well he would get along with the current ownership and how that relationship could affect his responsibilities as manager.

Voted Allegri as i see him as the best fit based off what I've seen so far.
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Re: Next Arsenal Manager ~ General Discussion and Rumours

Postby KG3 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:12 pm

Angelito wrote:
Arsenal are crying out for change - and Antonio Conte is the man to deliver it

By Chelsea’s recent standards, Antonio Conte is reaching that point in his reign at Stamford Bridge where he will be considered ‘long-serving’.

The secret of Chelsea's success is hiring and sacking managers with rapid gunfire and the signals coming out of the club suggest they are readying themselves to pull the trigger again.

It would not surprise me – I have felt Conte will go since he made public his displeasure with transfer policy at the start of the season. But I think it would be a huge mistake if Chelsea do part company, regardless of the calibre of his replacement.

Not that they will be bothered. This is a club that sacked Jose Mourinho (twice) and Carlo Ancelotti shortly after title wins. Evidently Chelsea believe new coaches re-energise the club, a policy that has paid off spectacularly on several occasions. Coaches of the calibre of Diego Simeone and Juventus’ Massimiliano Allegri are already being strongly linked with the Chelsea job.

But we should not ignore there are also risks in regularly changing the coach, as we saw when Phil Scolari and Andre Villas-Boas failed.

For me, Conte remains the best man for Chelsea. His record since moving to Stamford Bridge is extraordinary. Despite Manchester City’s incredible run, Conte has won more Premier League points (142) and won more Premier League games (44 out of 61) than any manager since his appointment. Pep Guardiola will soon pass him, but he is not there yet.

Chelsea remain in both domestic cups, the last 16 of the Champions League and well-placed to finish runners-up in what would be a satisfactory title defence. It is too quickly forgotten Chelsea finished 10th before Conte took over. Certainly those Chelsea supporters booing the side after last weekend’s 0-0 draw with Leicester City must have wiped it from memory.

Had Conte finished in the top four in his first season Roman Abramovich would have considered it progress. No one could have expected Conte to deliver the title so soon.

Conte is an elite coach enriching the Premier League. Most clubs in the world would improve under him. We have seen his qualities, not just in his results, but in his belligerent approach off the park.

No matter how controversial it was, to take on players of the reputation and importance of Diego Costa and David Luiz demonstrates the type of character he is. To be blunt about it, you can see he is a manager who will take no s---, whether it is a player, board member or – as is the case in the public spat with Mourinho – a rival manager. In most circumstances a club would cherish having such a figurehead, not mull over letting him go.

If Conte’s situation is precarious - the Chelsea hierarchy ambivalent on his future and Conte increasingly frustrated by the structure of the club - there will be a long queue for his services. I could imagine Real Madrid considering Conte as a replacement for Zinedine Zidane, whose position looks vulnerable. The Italian national team would beg him to go back after their failure to qualify for the World Cup. There is talk of him returning to Italian football but having managed the national team and led Juventus to three Serie A titles in a row, would heading home at this stage of his career be so appealing? He has nothing more to prove in his own country.

There is one club in particular, much closer to his current home, I feel should be monitoring developments more than others; a club desperately in need of Conte’s persona, who would send a rocket through every department of their institution and instantly change perceptions.

That club is Arsenal.

I can imagine no more suitable replacement for Arsene Wenger than Conte. It would be one of the most astute managerial appointments in Premier League history.

Can you imagine Conte, disillusioned with his treatment at Chelsea, turning up at The Emirates?

Arsenal are still stuck in a cycle of mediocrity they have been unable to escape for several years. I will never lose respect for Wenger – his legacy in English football is preserved and he will always be considered one of the all-time greats – but I said last year his time was coming to an end and nothing has changed.

An opportunity was missed to make a choreographed exit at Wembley after winning the FA Cup last May, when Wenger’s last contract was expiring. That felt the right time to make a change rather than extend for another two years. Instead, the situation looks like it is deteriorating. The side selected against Bournemouth a week ago bore more resemblance to the League Cup teams Wenger picked 10 years ago. With Alexis Sanchez going, and Mesut Ozil’s future uncertain, Arsenal must rebuild, adding to the signing of Henrikh Mkhitaryan.

Wenger has 18 months left. Can a manager in that position get to work constructing a side for the next generation?

Wenger has often said he will never break a contract. If there are many more performances like at Bournemouth it might not be his decision.

Arsenal seem torn between those who want to inject much needed freshness and those still clinging to the idea their greatest manager can recreate his former glory.

You can see some evidence of forward planning with the appointment of ex-Borussia Dortmund scout Sven Mislintat as Head of Recruitment. He must have advised the club to pursue Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, but where does that leave Alexandre Lacazette, signed for £50 million last summer? I don’t see that as a partnership.

Darren Burgess, who I worked with at Liverpool, is also joining as High Performance Director so there are changes afoot.

But ultimate power still rests with Wenger.

No matter how loyal the Arsenal board, they have a duty to consider what happens when he goes. When outstanding candidates emerge you have to react. That is why I believe they should already be sounding out Conte’s camp. They will get another close look at him when the clubs meet in the Carabao Cup this week.

Conte is too good for Chelsea to let go. They should be desperately trying to keep him, not only because he will bring more success to the club, but to ensure he does not come back to haunt them when he returns with a rival.

If the Chelsea board cannot see that, Arsenal should do everything in their power to ensure it is a short tube ride to his next destination.


So what do you say, Gooners?

What do you say?


No thanks his recent signing Bakayoko, Drinkwater, Morata agave been average and that's not to mention Crouch/Carroll possibly on the way.

Dont get me wrong Wenger has overpaid for his fare share these days like Chambers, Mustafi and Xhaka but the last thing we want is a a manager who's used to a larger budget coming here to do the same.

He'd be an upgrade but still not good enough IMO, yes he won the league last season but let's be honest that was a strong Chelsea team which won the league only 1/2 years it's not like they were our level and he made them into a title winning team.

Simone/Allegri would be my choice.
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Re: Next Arsenal Manager ~ General Discussion and Rumours

Postby Angelito » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:23 pm

Conte's main issue at Chelsea has been those transfers sanctioned by Chelsea's transfer team.

He doesn't have a say on transfers.
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Re: Next Arsenal Manager ~ General Discussion and Rumours

Postby Nuggets » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:09 pm

Gooner_LK6 wrote:Simeone took an Atletico side to the CL final, so I think he's more suited to taking a not so great side like ours to higher heights.


This :clap:
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Re: Next Arsenal Manager ~ General Discussion and Rumours

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:04 pm

Angelito wrote:Conte's main issue at Chelsea has been those transfers sanctioned by Chelsea's transfer team.

He doesn't have a say on transfers.


Yup, this seems to be the case. Really can't see Conte interested in Drinkwater or Ross Barkely. Apparently he didn't want David Luiz either.
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Re: Next Arsenal Manager ~ General Discussion and Rumours

Postby KG3 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:59 am

Angelito wrote:Conte's main issue at Chelsea has been those transfers sanctioned by Chelsea's transfer team.

He doesn't have a say on transfers.


Sanctioned by conte or not my main point is that he inherited a strong Chelsea team which recently won the league didn't take much to get them going again with a few additions like Kante, Luiz and Alonso any old manager could have won/challenged with that team and their own signings.

Should conte come here he'd be inheriting a poor top 6 side which needs much more 2/3 signings to win the league and more and tbh I'm not sure he's right for the job at least someone like Diego Simone has proven he can build a winning squad on limited resources.
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Re: Next Arsenal Manager ~ General Discussion and Rumours

Postby ESR10 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:33 am

Nuggets wrote:
Gooner_LK6 wrote:Simeone took an Atletico side to the CL final, so I think he's more suited to taking a not so great side like ours to higher heights.

This :clap:

Plus he would get the best out of players with disciplinary problems on the field.

Xhaka and Ramsey could be decent players with a trainer like Simeone.
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Re: Next Arsenal Manager ~ General Discussion and Rumours

Postby KG3 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:45 pm

Macro Silva is available now, we should get him to sign a pre contract to replace Wenger at the end of the season like city did with guardiola iirc.
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