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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby StockGooner » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:15 pm

Would be even brighter if we'd kept hold of more of them. That stat is depressing!!
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby ag6789 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:29 pm

Yes, keep hold of the best.
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby Ach » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:35 pm

Leave and you will excel elsewhere
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby Zenith » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:51 pm

Ach wrote:Leave and you will excel elsewhere

Thanks to a fantastic football education at Arsenal, indeed.
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby theHotHead » Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:29 pm

Not sure that stat is a good stat, a club that produces talent for other clubs but hardly any for itself is how I see it. If the players we produced were any good they would be prized possessions, the fact we sold them tells you all you need to know.
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby jayramfootball » Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:43 pm

theHotHead wrote:Not sure that stat is a good stat, a club that produces talent for other clubs but hardly any for itself is how I see it. If the players we produced were any good they would be prized possessions, the fact we sold them tells you all you need to know.


Exactly, doesn't tell us much other than we developed some players, but not good enough to be where we want to be.
Which players did we develop that are playing for the top 4 in the PL?
Which ones are at the top club in the major foreign leagues?

This is players who played in the top 31 divisions of the UEFA member leagues.
Willock will be on this list, so will Nketiah, so will Nelson, etc.
The ones that ARE making it are the ones making it big - like Saka and ESR are still here.
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby ag6789 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:19 pm

We have a number of first team players and number of players on loan from the Academy who are playing for PL or Championship sides. Besides we also have quite a few playing in other leagues.
So overall a very optimistic situation.
Number of these youngsters are already highly thought of. So win win...but fingers crossed.
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby StockGooner » Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:36 am

jayramfootball wrote:
theHotHead wrote:Not sure that stat is a good stat, a club that produces talent for other clubs but hardly any for itself is how I see it. If the players we produced were any good they would be prized possessions, the fact we sold them tells you all you need to know.


Exactly, doesn't tell us much other than we developed some players, but not good enough to be where we want to be.
Which players did we develop that are playing for the top 4 in the PL?
Which ones are at the top club in the major foreign leagues?

This is players who played in the top 31 divisions of the UEFA member leagues.
Willock will be on this list, so will Nketiah, so will Nelson, etc.
The ones that ARE making it are the ones making it big - like Saka and ESR are still here.


Malen, Gnabry, Ozyakup(?). Might add Reine Adelaide to tha list soon enough

Think Malen and Gnabry you'd definitely have at the club again. Ozyakup maybe not but seems to be making a name for himself
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby LMAO » Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:45 am

theHotHead wrote:Not sure that stat is a good stat, a club that produces talent for other clubs but hardly any for itself is how I see it. If the players we produced were any good they would be prized possessions, the fact we sold them tells you all you need to know.


Yup, gotta agree. And for youth academies, Hale End still needs to improve to where its pumping out quality on par with the likes of La Fabrica, Ajax, Benfica, and La Masia.

Though, I'm pleased with the likes of Saka and ESR, and there are promising prospects like Cottrell, Azeez, the other Salah, and Patino.
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby Power n Glory » Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:59 am

Ach wrote:Leave and you will excel elsewhere


I've always wondered if things would have turned out better or worse for some of the promising youth players that stayed on with us.
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby Ach » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:20 pm

Some will have succeeded. Some might not have. Nature of the beast.

There's no young player that we've let go in the last few years that I look at and think we should regret that.

Even Gbabry. He was absolute garbage for us and flopped on loan at wba. Getting rid was never the wrong thing.

Fact he's gone on to become pretty good is neither here or there. Had he stayed, he'd be iwobi
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby VCC » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:04 am

Absolutely love the defenders license to run with the ball into space when not being press some great movement and give and go passes opening up because of this.
Taveres has been an inspiration.
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby theHotHead » Sun Oct 31, 2021 7:34 pm

Play 2 up top, you're welcome.
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby Zenith » Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:36 am

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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby Zenith » Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:52 am

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Good form after a difficult start. Long season ahead, though. Our general chance creation from open play has to go up, and ball retention after taking the lead also has to improve drastically.
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