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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby Arsenal Tone » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:39 pm

thebigbangtheo wrote:For those in possession of a balanced and reasonable approach, understanding and appreciation of tactics, formations and unbiased post performance analysis, last night was vindication of our manager having acknowledged beyond the training pitch good purpose and benefit in exchanging renowned ball retention and developed build up play, for the alternative tool of attack with pace and fluidity.

Whether selection was to incorporate Nketiah, Martinelli or Pepe as the tip of the spearhead, the ability to constantly run directly towards goal quickly and decisively is what was paramount in making this and the other adjustments to midfield and defence also worthwhile.

That the correct answer to the question being asked of us regards our standing in the league could've undoubtedly been answered positively at the first attempt and would obviously have been preferred, but in it taking us a couple more tries at solving the equation, it shouldn't see us being assessed and labelled as dunce, backward or incapable, when our condition shows greater evidence of actually being mildly autistic and bi-polar.


Were you 'bunburyist' on the old 606 forums? Your posts are so well written, you remind me of him/her.
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby Arsenal Tone » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:11 pm

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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby thebigbangtheo » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:34 pm

Arsenal Tone wrote:
thebigbangtheo wrote:For those in possession of a balanced and reasonable approach, understanding and appreciation of tactics, formations and unbiased post performance analysis, last night was vindication of our manager having acknowledged beyond the training pitch good purpose and benefit in exchanging renowned ball retention and developed build up play, for the alternative tool of attack with pace and fluidity.

Whether selection was to incorporate Nketiah, Martinelli or Pepe as the tip of the spearhead, the ability to constantly run directly towards goal quickly and decisively is what was paramount in making this and the other adjustments to midfield and defence also worthwhile.

That the correct answer to the question being asked of us regards our standing in the league could've undoubtedly been answered positively at the first attempt and would obviously have been preferred, but in it taking us a couple more tries at solving the equation, it shouldn't see us being assessed and labelled as dunce, backward or incapable, when our condition shows greater evidence of actually being mildly autistic and bi-polar.


Were you 'bunburyist' on the old 606 forums? Your posts are so well written, you remind me of him/her.


No, that wasn't me I'm afraid, I did have a previous life as 'Theo3000' when I was on TeamTalk many moons ago but that's my only alias as such.
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby Arsenal Tone » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:41 pm

thebigbangtheo wrote:
Arsenal Tone wrote:
thebigbangtheo wrote:For those in possession of a balanced and reasonable approach, understanding and appreciation of tactics, formations and unbiased post performance analysis, last night was vindication of our manager having acknowledged beyond the training pitch good purpose and benefit in exchanging renowned ball retention and developed build up play, for the alternative tool of attack with pace and fluidity.

Whether selection was to incorporate Nketiah, Martinelli or Pepe as the tip of the spearhead, the ability to constantly run directly towards goal quickly and decisively is what was paramount in making this and the other adjustments to midfield and defence also worthwhile.

That the correct answer to the question being asked of us regards our standing in the league could've undoubtedly been answered positively at the first attempt and would obviously have been preferred, but in it taking us a couple more tries at solving the equation, it shouldn't see us being assessed and labelled as dunce, backward or incapable, when our condition shows greater evidence of actually being mildly autistic and bi-polar.


Were you 'bunburyist' on the old 606 forums? Your posts are so well written, you remind me of him/her.


No, that wasn't me I'm afraid, I did have a previous life as 'Theo3000' when I was on TeamTalk many moons ago but that's my only alias as such.
There are some really good writers out there, you should do an Arsenal blog.
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby thebigbangtheo » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:56 pm

Arsenal Tone wrote:
thebigbangtheo wrote:
Arsenal Tone wrote:
thebigbangtheo wrote:For those in possession of a balanced and reasonable approach, understanding and appreciation of tactics, formations and unbiased post performance analysis, last night was vindication of our manager having acknowledged beyond the training pitch good purpose and benefit in exchanging renowned ball retention and developed build up play, for the alternative tool of attack with pace and fluidity.

Whether selection was to incorporate Nketiah, Martinelli or Pepe as the tip of the spearhead, the ability to constantly run directly towards goal quickly and decisively is what was paramount in making this and the other adjustments to midfield and defence also worthwhile.

That the correct answer to the question being asked of us regards our standing in the league could've undoubtedly been answered positively at the first attempt and would obviously have been preferred, but in it taking us a couple more tries at solving the equation, it shouldn't see us being assessed and labelled as dunce, backward or incapable, when our condition shows greater evidence of actually being mildly autistic and bi-polar.


Were you 'bunburyist' on the old 606 forums? Your posts are so well written, you remind me of him/her.


No, that wasn't me I'm afraid, I did have a previous life as 'Theo3000' when I was on TeamTalk many moons ago but that's my only alias as such.
There are some really good writers out there, you should do an Arsenal blog.


Well this'll give my missus a right giggle, as she's undoubtedly the brains of our outfit, me, I'm just glad I was not too daft as to have failed to recognise that fact. Thanks for the compliment though all the same.
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby Losmeister » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:06 pm

btw, i DID notice even in the MBM, the quick glancing at the stats... that we were conceding more possession and counteraqttacking as we did in the FA cup run...
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby Power n Glory » Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:07 pm

thebigbangtheo wrote:For those in possession of a balanced and reasonable approach, understanding and appreciation of tactics, formations and unbiased post performance analysis, last night was vindication of our manager having acknowledged beyond the training pitch good purpose and benefit in exchanging renowned ball retention and developed build up play, for the alternative tool of attack with pace and fluidity.

Whether selection was to incorporate Nketiah, Martinelli or Pepe as the tip of the spearhead, the ability to constantly run directly towards goal quickly and decisively is what was paramount in making this and the other adjustments to midfield and defence also worthwhile.

That the correct answer to the question being asked of us regards our standing in the league could've undoubtedly been answered positively at the first attempt and would obviously have been preferred, but in it taking us a couple more tries at solving the equation, it shouldn't see us being assessed and labelled as dunce, backward or incapable, when our condition shows greater evidence of actually being mildly autistic and bi-polar.


Time will tell whether our switch to a more counter attacking style was indeed the manager acknowledging the flaws in our usually slow, possession based style, or just a one off situation where we've adapted to this particular game or opponent. I've always thought we should lean into a more pacey, counter attacking style but we'll see if we adopt a similar approach for our remaining games. Ball retention will always be tougher against the top teams that are also used to hogging the ball so I'm leaning more on the side that we adapted to what we knew was coming.
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby jayramfootball » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:06 pm

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Notice Eddie's minutes per goal :biggrin:

Also having just watched MOTD for the first time ages they put up a stat on his starts and goals.

6 goals in 13 starts in the Premier League from the ages of 18-22.

He's hardly played but when he does he scores at a good rate - even as a kid.
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby Arsenal Tone » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:22 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
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Notice Eddie's minutes per goal [emoji3]

Also having just watched MOTD for the first time ages they put up a stat on his starts and goals.

6 goals in 13 starts in the Premier League from the ages of 18-22.

He's hardly played but when he does he scores at a good rate - even as a kid.


He's got nothing on Patino though ;)
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby jayramfootball » Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:00 pm

Arsenal Tone wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Arsenal Tone wrote:Image



Notice Eddie's minutes per goal [emoji3]

Also having just watched MOTD for the first time ages they put up a stat on his starts and goals.

6 goals in 13 starts in the Premier League from the ages of 18-22.

He's hardly played but when he does he scores at a good rate - even as a kid.


He's got nothing on Patino though ;)


Put him up front ;)
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby Zenith » Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:56 pm

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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby jayramfootball » Sat Apr 23, 2022 3:07 pm

34 goals in the last 17 matches since the Everton game.
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby ag6789 » Sat Apr 23, 2022 3:28 pm

Not bad from Elneny and Xhakha ( slated him much but have shown maturity of late) as per the stats from Zenith.
Still would like to see a top CM in summer.
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby Zenith » Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:25 pm


A bit too early to talk about major progress, but it's a step in the right direction. To quote AW: you go up by stairs, but come down by the lift. Let's see how we'll fare when Arteta has to manage European fixtures in-between Premier League matches.
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Re: Tactics, Formations, Analysis, and Statistics

Postby jayramfootball » Thu Apr 28, 2022 4:32 pm

Just on our goal scoring improvement.

2.0 goals per game since the Everton game.
1.2 goals per game before that.

That's a huge leap.

It's not that far behind City and Liverpool.
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