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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby aniym » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:25 am

ag6789 wrote:Ceballos isn't that good either. Should try to get back Fabregas for a short stint.
But in any case a quality CM is a must in Summer.


I agree he hasn't been that good, but he's the right age and available for €30m and we can't turn up out noses at that. At this point, any player that isnt putting in PEA, Saka, Martinelli type performances is getting written off as shit.

That's unfair. He's a loan player who's been injured for a few months and in the midst of a totally dysfunctional team. PEA, Saka and GM are exceptions, not the rule. Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby StLGooner » Wed May 20, 2020 4:09 pm

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Risk is a four-letter word, and Rams owner Stan Kroenke sure took on a lot of it when he moved his franchise from St. Louis to Los Angeles four years ago and set about building the most expensive football stadium in history.

As part of the deal to return to the nation’s second-largest market, Kroenke agreed to give the Chargers a sweetheart deal as a tenant, with the understanding that he would shoulder the overwhelming majority of the stadium costs.

In the interim, the price tag of SoFi Stadium has soared to $5 billion, double the original projections, and the Chargers have fallen roughly $300 million short of their projected $400 million in seat-licensed sales, money earmarked for construction costs. They have pointed to the COVID-19 pandemic as one of the reasons for that shortfall. While that certainly couldn’t have helped, this problem was years in the making.

So it was significant Tuesday when NFL owners voted unanimously to provide Kroenke an additional $500 million in financing, along with an extended period to pay it back. It was an acknowledgement of the risk he took in moving to L.A., and privately financing a stadium that figures to be the West Coast hub for the league.

That request was in the pipeline before the current national financial crisis, so it’s not a direct response to these difficult times. But the stakes are unquestionably higher now for a stadium that already has been delayed a year, and might not have any fans pass through its doors this season.

Here’s the original deal Kroenke and the NFL hammered out: The Chargers pay $1 annually in rent, and bring with them 10 games per season, a $200-million league loan, and whatever they can raise in seat-license sales. In exchange, the Chargers get a shiny new home, and a share in a portion of stadium sponsorships and annual suite payments.

Kroenke is responsible for construction costs, and pitches in an identical league loan, as well as Rams seat-license sales. Besides the stadium money on a Chargers game day — and the aforementioned share of sponsorships and suites — Kroenke receives all other revenue generated by the 298-acre Inglewood site throughout the year.

It’s as if the Rams are on a bicycle built for two, and at the base of a huge and steeper-than-expected hill. Now, they have to do almost all the pedaling.

What will be fascinating to watch is how these heightened hurdles of the moment affect the relationship between the Rams and Chargers, who aren’t just housemates but the product of the most exorbitant and risky shotgun wedding in sports history.



Possibly could effect us if it hasn't already.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Santi » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:41 am

Could mean anything really, would like to think he's done it to free up cash but at the end of the day we still have to pay off the debt at some point, now it just goes to Kroenke instead and he can use it as collateral.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby jayramfootball » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:58 pm

I guess it might be time to ask how that 100m plus investment in players worked out?
Looks to me like a total waste of money.
If I were Kroenke I would not be putting a single pound into the club.
Sell and then buy. Break even. That should be the message to his staff ... and prove that you idiots can actually find decent players.
No matter how bad it gets, at least we don't have to put up with Wenger anymore
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby StLGooner » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:48 pm

jayramfootball wrote:I guess it might be time to ask how that 100m plus investment in players worked out?
Looks to me like a total waste of money.
If I were Kroenke I would not be putting a single pound into the club.
Sell and then buy. Break even. That should be the message to his staff ... and prove that you idiots can actually find decent players.



Stan probably doesn't even know where we're at on the table. He's busy spending twice as much money as expected building his LA stadium.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Sims » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:00 pm

There’s no better time to invest but this toupee wearing paedo moustached shit bag is gonna do f**k all
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby jayramfootball » Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:22 pm

Sims wrote:There’s no better time to invest but this toupee wearing paedo moustached shit bag is gonna do f**k all


Why would he invest?
He's seen his money wasted. He must look at the 73m spent on Pepe and shudder.
There is no way we can blame him given the huge amounts of money he has invested in the team with a negative return.
If I were him, I'd want a breakeven on transfers for a few seasons so the that the coaches and scouts can prove they've learned and now know what they are doing, because history says they do not.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby jayramfootball » Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:23 pm

StLGooner wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:I guess it might be time to ask how that 100m plus investment in players worked out?
Looks to me like a total waste of money.
If I were Kroenke I would not be putting a single pound into the club.
Sell and then buy. Break even. That should be the message to his staff ... and prove that you idiots can actually find decent players.



Stan probably doesn't even know where we're at on the table. He's busy spending twice as much money as expected building his LA stadium.


Who gives a flying f*** about the Rams. Stupid sport.
I know at Arsenal, Kroenke has invested a fortune in the playing staff.
No matter how bad it gets, at least we don't have to put up with Wenger anymore
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Callum » Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:05 pm

It's not Kroenke's money, it's the club's money, earned via revenue streams.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby jayramfootball » Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:18 pm

Callum wrote:It's not Kroenke's money, it's the club's money, earned via revenue streams.


Er, no.
It's all Kroenke's money. He owns all the shares. The club belongs ENTIRELY to him.
Every single penny spent by the club is Kroenke's
Every penny in revenue is his, the tax mans and what he chooses to pay his staff.

For extra clarity - not a single penny belongs to the fans, staff, players, or anyone else associated to Kroenke's club. Fans are customers, players and coaches are paid staff.

When we buy a player, Kroenke is paying the fee. He's spent a fortune of his money on players and he's been let down by horrendous management and scouting.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Jedi » Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:22 pm

Trend under the Kroenke's seems to be that the shitter we are the more we spend. Hope it continues in the upcoming transfer window.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby jayramfootball » Thu Jul 16, 2020 6:25 pm

Jedi wrote:Trend under the Kroenke's seems to be that the shitter we are the more we spend. Hope it continues in the upcoming transfer window.


Unfortunately, the trend is also, the more we spend the shitter we become.
It seems to me the best approach is to build from good management, coaching and youth.
Splashing enormous amounts of money on players has not worked.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby StLGooner » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:36 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
StLGooner wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:I guess it might be time to ask how that 100m plus investment in players worked out?
Looks to me like a total waste of money.
If I were Kroenke I would not be putting a single pound into the club.
Sell and then buy. Break even. That should be the message to his staff ... and prove that you idiots can actually find decent players.



Stan probably doesn't even know where we're at on the table. He's busy spending twice as much money as expected building his LA stadium.


Who gives a flying f*** about the Rams. Stupid sport.
I know at Arsenal, Kroenke has invested a fortune in the playing staff.



The Rams team isn't the point, the point is he's spending some of his own money (from reports I've read) on a stadium that is now costing twice as much as expected (5 to 6 billion), which obviously takes away from us. When he had a perfectly good stadium in a perfectly fine city (St. Louis).

With the money we've spent we definitely should be better, but he allowed us to have incompetent people in charge spending that money, so now we have to spend more to get out of a hole that could have been avoided had it all been done correctly to begin with.

His greed and incompetence as an owner is hurting us.
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