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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Ach » Mon Aug 30, 2021 2:50 pm

Kroenke and Arteta need to go
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Angelito » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:55 pm

Nuggets wrote:According to The Athletic, Kroenke is fully committed to helping turn things around and that has been evident with the money he has given Arteta.

And it seems as though Arteta will also be fully supported in the immediate future despite a worrying start to the campaign.

The report claims that the Arsenal owners still see Arteta as a 'good fit' for their long-term ambition. :( :angry:


I think he stays if he gets 4 points out of the next 5 games. :hiding:

2 points from the next 5 games and they might consider dropping the axe.

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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Arsenal Tone » Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:55 pm

He's spent big money, it's just that he appointed the wrong people to give big money to. I reckon the Kroenkes are about to kick some arse and wouldn't be surprised if both Edu and Arteta get the boot.
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Tomiyasu/???--White/Saliba--Gabriel/???--Tierney/Tavares
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Nuggets » Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:33 pm

Tony Adams wrote:He's spent big money, it's just that he appointed the wrong people to give big money to. I reckon the Kroenkes are about to kick some arse and wouldn't be surprised if both Edu and Arteta get the boot.

:pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Arsenal Tone » Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:49 pm

Nuggets wrote:
Tony Adams wrote:He's spent big money, it's just that he appointed the wrong people to give big money to. I reckon the Kroenkes are about to kick some arse and wouldn't be surprised if both Edu and Arteta get the boot.

:pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:
Again, no evidence, just putting two and two together and getting five.
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???/???
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby VCC » Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:39 am

Tony Adams wrote:
Nuggets wrote:
Tony Adams wrote:He's spent big money, it's just that he appointed the wrong people to give big money to. I reckon the Kroenkes are about to kick some arse and wouldn't be surprised if both Edu and Arteta get the boot.

:pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:
Again, no evidence, just putting two and two together and getting five.

Praying for five
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby theHotHead » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:19 am

Moondoggie wrote:
theHotHead wrote:What Brexit red tape?! Getting a work permit isn't difficult, the process is well known to football clubs, the delay is down to a failure to prepare, simple as that.


Well, considering that before Brexit players from the European Economic Area didn't need to get work permits to play in the Premier League and now they have to go through the same process as players from South America, Africa or elsewhere to obtain a work visa, it's a bit more complicated. Under the old rules, he could have played immediately. It may not be difficult, but government takes its time to go through the process.

Thats exactly my point - the process is documented and well known, its an existing process, its not like we haven't bought African or South American players before. You can't tell me Arteta didn't know well in advance that he wanted to re-sign Odegaard, so the delay must be down to a failure to prepare
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby swipe right » Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:44 am

Saudi’s about to take over Newcastle. 300 mil to Ashley, billion dollars in investment trust, 250 mil on players to start with. Heavyweight manager, director of football and chief executive to come in. Here we go.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Nuggets » Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:51 am

swipe right wrote:Saudi’s about to take over Newcastle. 300 mil to Ashley, billion dollars in investment trust, 250 mil on players to start with. Heavyweight manager, director of football and chief executive to come in. Here we go.


Pity they didn't buy our club and bring in a proper manager.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby EliteKiller » Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:21 pm

swipe right wrote:Saudi’s about to take over Newcastle. 300 mil to Ashley, billion dollars in investment trust, 250 mil on players to start with. Heavyweight manager, director of football and chief executive to come in. Here we go.


Go where? FFP means they can't simply spend 250m on new players until they increase revenue by 250m - that's not happening in a Covid pandemic - they can rebuild the ground and training facilities with as much cash as they want, and indeed they can get their 'chums' to place massive sponsorship deals Man City style, but until that new income actually arrives they can't simply spend unlimited cash on players, however much they put into Newcastle's bank account ....

No question it's a massive boost for Newcastle, however a bit like Everton with billionaire backing spending the maximum they can on players, under the EPL's current FFP rules - has it made that much difference? Let's hope it's the same with the Magpies, another false dawn.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby swipe right » Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:34 pm

EliteKiller wrote:
swipe right wrote:Saudi’s about to take over Newcastle. 300 mil to Ashley, billion dollars in investment trust, 250 mil on players to start with. Heavyweight manager, director of football and chief executive to come in. Here we go.


Go where? FFP means they can't simply spend 250m on new players until they increase revenue by 250m - that's not happening in a Covid pandemic - they can rebuild the ground and training facilities with as much cash as they want, and indeed they can get their 'chums' to place massive sponsorship deals Man City style, but until that new income actually arrives they can't simply spend unlimited cash on players, however much they put into Newcastle's bank account ....

No question it's a massive boost for Newcastle, however a bit like Everton with billionaire backing spending the maximum they can on players, under the EPL's current FFP rules - has it made that much difference? Let's hope it's the same with the Magpies, another false dawn.

Heard all this before.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Hypergooner » Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:35 pm

swipe right wrote:
EliteKiller wrote:
swipe right wrote:Saudi’s about to take over Newcastle. 300 mil to Ashley, billion dollars in investment trust, 250 mil on players to start with. Heavyweight manager, director of football and chief executive to come in. Here we go.


Go where? FFP means they can't simply spend 250m on new players until they increase revenue by 250m - that's not happening in a Covid pandemic - they can rebuild the ground and training facilities with as much cash as they want, and indeed they can get their 'chums' to place massive sponsorship deals Man City style, but until that new income actually arrives they can't simply spend unlimited cash on players, however much they put into Newcastle's bank account ....

No question it's a massive boost for Newcastle, however a bit like Everton with billionaire backing spending the maximum they can on players, under the EPL's current FFP rules - has it made that much difference? Let's hope it's the same with the Magpies, another false dawn.

Heard all this before.


As far as I'm aware, they can sponsor themselves with as much as they like, then spend the sponsorship money on whatever they like.
FFP only stops clubs with regular owners buying players with regular money. Hence the EFL teams are struggling big time
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:40 am

EliteKiller wrote:
swipe right wrote:Saudi’s about to take over Newcastle. 300 mil to Ashley, billion dollars in investment trust, 250 mil on players to start with. Heavyweight manager, director of football and chief executive to come in. Here we go.


Go where? FFP means they can't simply spend 250m on new players until they increase revenue by 250m - that's not happening in a Covid pandemic - they can rebuild the ground and training facilities with as much cash as they want, and indeed they can get their 'chums' to place massive sponsorship deals Man City style, but until that new income actually arrives they can't simply spend unlimited cash on players, however much they put into Newcastle's bank account ....


These are pure technicalities that the FA and PL will be happy to let slide. Just like they when they signed off on Newcastle's owners being a "consortium" and the not the Kingdom itself. *Wink*
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