The Kroenke Problem

[firfi]

It's not only about money.We don't have people that can spend the money wisely .We cannot battle with CIty ,United or Chelsea in the spending spree. What we can do is spend it better we're buying unproven 1 season player Pepe for 72m + under the table only god knows how much with structure for 4-5 seasons to be paid that amount when the guy has had 1 good season and we did basically zero scouting on him.Even kid in high school can just check his stats and reasonably decide hes never worth that money.More than half of his goals we're from the penalty spot which can hardly be counted as the same value goals as open play ones. Besides that his ball control is really poor to average his passing ability is pretty average and the only thing he can do well is shoot.That played is worth around 30-45mil MAX.Yet we overpaid like over twice that just because we hired people that don't have a clue what they're doing and now that's draging us backwards.
Same people sacked Wenger without giving him really a good budget to spend and see what can happen.Same people hired Emery a bottlejob from PSG ,because they sacked Wenger and there weren't any good options available at the time.They just sacked him because that's what they felt was right without thinking of replacement at all.
Hiring a manager without experience in a club that wants instant improvements(Arteta) was on the same boat decision.
Combined we spend so much money in those seasons since Wenger left that we could have hired a manager like Alegri(proven) or someone of that caliber and given him the money to spend instead they decided to waste it.

[Arsenal Tone]

It's not only about money.We don't have people that can spend the money wisely .We cannot battle with CIty ,United or Chelsea in the spending spree. What we can do is spend it better we're buying unproven 1 season player Pepe for 72m + under the table only god knows how much with structure for 4-5 seasons to be paid that amount when the guy has had 1 good season and we did basically zero scouting on him.Even kid in high school can just check his stats and reasonably decide hes never worth that money.More than half of his goals we're from the penalty spot which can hardly be counted as the same value goals as open play ones. Besides that his ball control is really poor to average his passing ability is pretty average and the only thing he can do well is shoot.That played is worth around 30-45mil MAX.Yet we overpaid like over twice that just because we hired people that don't have a clue what they're doing and now that's draging us backwards.
Same people sacked Wenger without giving him really a good budget to spend and see what can happen.Same people hired Emery a bottlejob from PSG ,because they sacked Wenger and there weren't any good options available at the time.They just sacked him because that's what they felt was right without thinking of replacement at all.
Hiring a manager without experience in a club that wants instant improvements(Arteta) was on the same boat decision.
Combined we spend so much money in those seasons since Wenger left that we could have hired a manager like Alegri(proven) or someone of that caliber and given him the money to spend instead they decided to waste it.

We spent shitloads on players like chambers, xhaka and mustafi when Wenger was in charge though (and whilst ignoring gaping holes in the squad). Wenger going wasn't the problem, Wenger started the problem. It was always going to take years rather than a couple of transfer windows to undo the mess he left us with.

[firfi]

It's not only about money.We don't have people that can spend the money wisely .We cannot battle with CIty ,United or Chelsea in the spending spree. What we can do is spend it better we're buying unproven 1 season player Pepe for 72m + under the table only god knows how much with structure for 4-5 seasons to be paid that amount when the guy has had 1 good season and we did basically zero scouting on him.Even kid in high school can just check his stats and reasonably decide hes never worth that money.More than half of his goals we're from the penalty spot which can hardly be counted as the same value goals as open play ones. Besides that his ball control is really poor to average his passing ability is pretty average and the only thing he can do well is shoot.That played is worth around 30-45mil MAX.Yet we overpaid like over twice that just because we hired people that don't have a clue what they're doing and now that's draging us backwards.
Same people sacked Wenger without giving him really a good budget to spend and see what can happen.Same people hired Emery a bottlejob from PSG ,because they sacked Wenger and there weren't any good options available at the time.They just sacked him because that's what they felt was right without thinking of replacement at all.
Hiring a manager without experience in a club that wants instant improvements(Arteta) was on the same boat decision.
Combined we spend so much money in those seasons since Wenger left that we could have hired a manager like Alegri(proven) or someone of that caliber and given him the money to spend instead they decided to waste it.

We spent shitloads on players like chambers, xhaka and mustafi when Wenger was in charge though (and whilst ignoring gaping holes in the squad). Wenger going wasn't the problem, Wenger started the problem. It was always going to take years rather than a couple of transfer windows to undo the mess he left us with.

I agree those transfers were awful esp Mustafi.The other 2 are kinda average players we can get some return on our money.Buying young players for 20-35mil is kinda okay cause u can get half of the money returned quite easily.Which we don't do as often as we should.

But what about the fact Wenger turned Alexis into a beast of the other's he made players basically even in the last few seasons.His issue was always getting rid of players at the right time and buying new ones more smartly.Besides that he coached them super well.

[Arsenal Tone]

It's not only about money.We don't have people that can spend the money wisely .We cannot battle with CIty ,United or Chelsea in the spending spree. What we can do is spend it better we're buying unproven 1 season player Pepe for 72m + under the table only god knows how much with structure for 4-5 seasons to be paid that amount when the guy has had 1 good season and we did basically zero scouting on him.Even kid in high school can just check his stats and reasonably decide hes never worth that money.More than half of his goals we're from the penalty spot which can hardly be counted as the same value goals as open play ones. Besides that his ball control is really poor to average his passing ability is pretty average and the only thing he can do well is shoot.That played is worth around 30-45mil MAX.Yet we overpaid like over twice that just because we hired people that don't have a clue what they're doing and now that's draging us backwards.
Same people sacked Wenger without giving him really a good budget to spend and see what can happen.Same people hired Emery a bottlejob from PSG ,because they sacked Wenger and there weren't any good options available at the time.They just sacked him because that's what they felt was right without thinking of replacement at all.
Hiring a manager without experience in a club that wants instant improvements(Arteta) was on the same boat decision.
Combined we spend so much money in those seasons since Wenger left that we could have hired a manager like Alegri(proven) or someone of that caliber and given him the money to spend instead they decided to waste it.

We spent shitloads on players like chambers, xhaka and mustafi when Wenger was in charge though (and whilst ignoring gaping holes in the squad). Wenger going wasn't the problem, Wenger started the problem. It was always going to take years rather than a couple of transfer windows to undo the mess he left us with.

I agree those transfers were awful esp Mustafi.The other 2 are kinda average players we can get some return on our money.Buying young players for 20-35mil is kinda okay cause u can get half of the money returned quite easily.Which we don't do as often as we should.

But what about the fact Wenger turned Alexis into a beast of the other's he made players basically even in the last few seasons.His issue was always getting rid of players at the right time and buying new ones more smartly.Besides that he coached them super well.

Alexis was one of the best players in the world when we signed him. Wenger didn't 'make' anyone since Fabregas and Van Persie imo.

[firfi]

It's not only about money.We don't have people that can spend the money wisely .We cannot battle with CIty ,United or Chelsea in the spending spree. What we can do is spend it better we're buying unproven 1 season player Pepe for 72m + under the table only god knows how much with structure for 4-5 seasons to be paid that amount when the guy has had 1 good season and we did basically zero scouting on him.Even kid in high school can just check his stats and reasonably decide hes never worth that money.More than half of his goals we're from the penalty spot which can hardly be counted as the same value goals as open play ones. Besides that his ball control is really poor to average his passing ability is pretty average and the only thing he can do well is shoot.That played is worth around 30-45mil MAX.Yet we overpaid like over twice that just because we hired people that don't have a clue what they're doing and now that's draging us backwards.
Same people sacked Wenger without giving him really a good budget to spend and see what can happen.Same people hired Emery a bottlejob from PSG ,because they sacked Wenger and there weren't any good options available at the time.They just sacked him because that's what they felt was right without thinking of replacement at all.
Hiring a manager without experience in a club that wants instant improvements(Arteta) was on the same boat decision.
Combined we spend so much money in those seasons since Wenger left that we could have hired a manager like Alegri(proven) or someone of that caliber and given him the money to spend instead they decided to waste it.

We spent shitloads on players like chambers, xhaka and mustafi when Wenger was in charge though (and whilst ignoring gaping holes in the squad). Wenger going wasn't the problem, Wenger started the problem. It was always going to take years rather than a couple of transfer windows to undo the mess he left us with.

I agree those transfers were awful esp Mustafi.The other 2 are kinda average players we can get some return on our money.Buying young players for 20-35mil is kinda okay cause u can get half of the money returned quite easily.Which we don't do as often as we should.

But what about the fact Wenger turned Alexis into a beast of the other's he made players basically even in the last few seasons.His issue was always getting rid of players at the right time and buying new ones more smartly.Besides that he coached them super well.

Alexis was one of the best players in the world when we signed him. Wenger didn't 'make' anyone since Fabregas and Van Persie imo.

Your watching something else mate.He was outcast of Barcelona that couldn't get minutes.Was he good hell yea .But was he world class hell no.He was pretty average.Wenger made him superstar that City and United wanted to sign badly.And we can all see how that turned out after Arsenal.
I see you are one of those that don't respect Wenger and we're Wenger out. But i wan't to ask u one thing. Name me a player that after leaving Wenger's reign was better than the stature and the respect he received when he played for Arsenal.I just one you to name me ONE.

[Arsenal Tone]

It's not only about money.We don't have people that can spend the money wisely .We cannot battle with CIty ,United or Chelsea in the spending spree. What we can do is spend it better we're buying unproven 1 season player Pepe for 72m + under the table only god knows how much with structure for 4-5 seasons to be paid that amount when the guy has had 1 good season and we did basically zero scouting on him.Even kid in high school can just check his stats and reasonably decide hes never worth that money.More than half of his goals we're from the penalty spot which can hardly be counted as the same value goals as open play ones. Besides that his ball control is really poor to average his passing ability is pretty average and the only thing he can do well is shoot.That played is worth around 30-45mil MAX.Yet we overpaid like over twice that just because we hired people that don't have a clue what they're doing and now that's draging us backwards.
Same people sacked Wenger without giving him really a good budget to spend and see what can happen.Same people hired Emery a bottlejob from PSG ,because they sacked Wenger and there weren't any good options available at the time.They just sacked him because that's what they felt was right without thinking of replacement at all.
Hiring a manager without experience in a club that wants instant improvements(Arteta) was on the same boat decision.
Combined we spend so much money in those seasons since Wenger left that we could have hired a manager like Alegri(proven) or someone of that caliber and given him the money to spend instead they decided to waste it.

We spent shitloads on players like chambers, xhaka and mustafi when Wenger was in charge though (and whilst ignoring gaping holes in the squad). Wenger going wasn't the problem, Wenger started the problem. It was always going to take years rather than a couple of transfer windows to undo the mess he left us with.

I agree those transfers were awful esp Mustafi.The other 2 are kinda average players we can get some return on our money.Buying young players for 20-35mil is kinda okay cause u can get half of the money returned quite easily.Which we don't do as often as we should.

But what about the fact Wenger turned Alexis into a beast of the other's he made players basically even in the last few seasons.His issue was always getting rid of players at the right time and buying new ones more smartly.Besides that he coached them super well.

Alexis was one of the best players in the world when we signed him. Wenger didn't 'make' anyone since Fabregas and Van Persie imo.

Your watching something else mate.He was outcast of Barcelona that couldn't get minutes.Was he good hell yea .But was he world class hell no.He was pretty average.Wenger made him superstar that City and United wanted to sign badly.And we can all see how that turned out after Arsenal.
I see you are one of those that don't respect Wenger and we're Wenger out. But i wan't to ask u one thing. Name me a player that after leaving Wenger's reign was better than the stature and the respect he received when he played for Arsenal.I just one you to name me ONE.

Gnabry

[firfi]

It's not only about money.We don't have people that can spend the money wisely .We cannot battle with CIty ,United or Chelsea in the spending spree. What we can do is spend it better we're buying unproven 1 season player Pepe for 72m + under the table only god knows how much with structure for 4-5 seasons to be paid that amount when the guy has had 1 good season and we did basically zero scouting on him.Even kid in high school can just check his stats and reasonably decide hes never worth that money.More than half of his goals we're from the penalty spot which can hardly be counted as the same value goals as open play ones. Besides that his ball control is really poor to average his passing ability is pretty average and the only thing he can do well is shoot.That played is worth around 30-45mil MAX.Yet we overpaid like over twice that just because we hired people that don't have a clue what they're doing and now that's draging us backwards.
Same people sacked Wenger without giving him really a good budget to spend and see what can happen.Same people hired Emery a bottlejob from PSG ,because they sacked Wenger and there weren't any good options available at the time.They just sacked him because that's what they felt was right without thinking of replacement at all.
Hiring a manager without experience in a club that wants instant improvements(Arteta) was on the same boat decision.
Combined we spend so much money in those seasons since Wenger left that we could have hired a manager like Alegri(proven) or someone of that caliber and given him the money to spend instead they decided to waste it.

We spent shitloads on players like chambers, xhaka and mustafi when Wenger was in charge though (and whilst ignoring gaping holes in the squad). Wenger going wasn't the problem, Wenger started the problem. It was always going to take years rather than a couple of transfer windows to undo the mess he left us with.

I agree those transfers were awful esp Mustafi.The other 2 are kinda average players we can get some return on our money.Buying young players for 20-35mil is kinda okay cause u can get half of the money returned quite easily.Which we don't do as often as we should.

But what about the fact Wenger turned Alexis into a beast of the other's he made players basically even in the last few seasons.His issue was always getting rid of players at the right time and buying new ones more smartly.Besides that he coached them super well.

Alexis was one of the best players in the world when we signed him. Wenger didn't 'make' anyone since Fabregas and Van Persie imo.

Your watching something else mate.He was outcast of Barcelona that couldn't get minutes.Was he good hell yea .But was he world class hell no.He was pretty average.Wenger made him superstar that City and United wanted to sign badly.And we can all see how that turned out after Arsenal.
I see you are one of those that don't respect Wenger and we're Wenger out. But i wan't to ask u one thing. Name me a player that after leaving Wenger's reign was better than the stature and the respect he received when he played for Arsenal.I just one you to name me ONE.

Gnabry

On 31 August 2016, Gnabry signed for Bundesliga side Werder Bremen for a reported transfer fee of £5 million.[36][37] Arsenal manager Arsène Wenger had wanted to extend Gnabry's contract at Arsenal before his move, but a lack of first-team opportunities meant that the midfielder sought a move elsewhere
Wenger wanted to sign him under new contract and loan him out.Gnabry wanted first team football and he refused to sign a new deal.There is big difference between ousting a player and the player not wishing to sign a new deal.He was indeed not ready at the time for full first team Arsenal.Even after a season when BM signed him they loaned him out.It's just how things are done in football.BM are the biggest german club and all german players want to go badly there.

[Arsenal Tone]

It's not only about money.We don't have people that can spend the money wisely .We cannot battle with CIty ,United or Chelsea in the spending spree. What we can do is spend it better we're buying unproven 1 season player Pepe for 72m + under the table only god knows how much with structure for 4-5 seasons to be paid that amount when the guy has had 1 good season and we did basically zero scouting on him.Even kid in high school can just check his stats and reasonably decide hes never worth that money.More than half of his goals we're from the penalty spot which can hardly be counted as the same value goals as open play ones. Besides that his ball control is really poor to average his passing ability is pretty average and the only thing he can do well is shoot.That played is worth around 30-45mil MAX.Yet we overpaid like over twice that just because we hired people that don't have a clue what they're doing and now that's draging us backwards.
Same people sacked Wenger without giving him really a good budget to spend and see what can happen.Same people hired Emery a bottlejob from PSG ,because they sacked Wenger and there weren't any good options available at the time.They just sacked him because that's what they felt was right without thinking of replacement at all.
Hiring a manager without experience in a club that wants instant improvements(Arteta) was on the same boat decision.
Combined we spend so much money in those seasons since Wenger left that we could have hired a manager like Alegri(proven) or someone of that caliber and given him the money to spend instead they decided to waste it.

We spent shitloads on players like chambers, xhaka and mustafi when Wenger was in charge though (and whilst ignoring gaping holes in the squad). Wenger going wasn't the problem, Wenger started the problem. It was always going to take years rather than a couple of transfer windows to undo the mess he left us with.

I agree those transfers were awful esp Mustafi.The other 2 are kinda average players we can get some return on our money.Buying young players for 20-35mil is kinda okay cause u can get half of the money returned quite easily.Which we don't do as often as we should.

But what about the fact Wenger turned Alexis into a beast of the other's he made players basically even in the last few seasons.His issue was always getting rid of players at the right time and buying new ones more smartly.Besides that he coached them super well.

Alexis was one of the best players in the world when we signed him. Wenger didn't 'make' anyone since Fabregas and Van Persie imo.

Your watching something else mate.He was outcast of Barcelona that couldn't get minutes.Was he good hell yea .But was he world class hell no.He was pretty average.Wenger made him superstar that City and United wanted to sign badly.And we can all see how that turned out after Arsenal.
I see you are one of those that don't respect Wenger and we're Wenger out. But i wan't to ask u one thing. Name me a player that after leaving Wenger's reign was better than the stature and the respect he received when he played for Arsenal.I just one you to name me ONE.

Gnabry

On 31 August 2016, Gnabry signed for Bundesliga side Werder Bremen for a reported transfer fee of £5 million.[36][37] Arsenal manager Arsène Wenger had wanted to extend Gnabry's contract at Arsenal before his move, but a lack of first-team opportunities meant that the midfielder sought a move elsewhere
Wenger wanted to sign him under new contract and loan him out.Gnabry wanted first team football and he refused to sign a new deal.There is big difference between ousting a player and the player not wishing to sign a new deal.He was indeed not ready at the time for full first team Arsenal.Even after a season when BM signed him they loaned him out.It's just how things are done in football.BM are the biggest german club and all german players want to go badly there.

So he doesn't count?

Also, look at the players who left and went on to win titles. Clichy, Sagna, Nasri, Van Persie, Fabregas etc. Not forgetting a lot of the invincibles who were sold off too early but went on to win titles abroad. Then look at the players who lost faith in Wenger's ability to win. From Henry and Vieira leaving because they didn't believe they could win the Champions League under Wenger to Fabregas and Van Persie leaving to win the Premier League.

[Arsenal Tone]

It's not only about money.We don't have people that can spend the money wisely .We cannot battle with CIty ,United or Chelsea in the spending spree. What we can do is spend it better we're buying unproven 1 season player Pepe for 72m + under the table only god knows how much with structure for 4-5 seasons to be paid that amount when the guy has had 1 good season and we did basically zero scouting on him.Even kid in high school can just check his stats and reasonably decide hes never worth that money.More than half of his goals we're from the penalty spot which can hardly be counted as the same value goals as open play ones. Besides that his ball control is really poor to average his passing ability is pretty average and the only thing he can do well is shoot.That played is worth around 30-45mil MAX.Yet we overpaid like over twice that just because we hired people that don't have a clue what they're doing and now that's draging us backwards.
Same people sacked Wenger without giving him really a good budget to spend and see what can happen.Same people hired Emery a bottlejob from PSG ,because they sacked Wenger and there weren't any good options available at the time.They just sacked him because that's what they felt was right without thinking of replacement at all.
Hiring a manager without experience in a club that wants instant improvements(Arteta) was on the same boat decision.
Combined we spend so much money in those seasons since Wenger left that we could have hired a manager like Alegri(proven) or someone of that caliber and given him the money to spend instead they decided to waste it.

We spent shitloads on players like chambers, xhaka and mustafi when Wenger was in charge though (and whilst ignoring gaping holes in the squad). Wenger going wasn't the problem, Wenger started the problem. It was always going to take years rather than a couple of transfer windows to undo the mess he left us with.

I agree those transfers were awful esp Mustafi.The other 2 are kinda average players we can get some return on our money.Buying young players for 20-35mil is kinda okay cause u can get half of the money returned quite easily.Which we don't do as often as we should.

But what about the fact Wenger turned Alexis into a beast of the other's he made players basically even in the last few seasons.His issue was always getting rid of players at the right time and buying new ones more smartly.Besides that he coached them super well.

Alexis was one of the best players in the world when we signed him. Wenger didn't 'make' anyone since Fabregas and Van Persie imo.

Your watching something else mate.He was outcast of Barcelona that couldn't get minutes.Was he good hell yea .But was he world class hell no.He was pretty average.Wenger made him superstar that City and United wanted to sign badly.And we can all see how that turned out after Arsenal.
I see you are one of those that don't respect Wenger and we're Wenger out. But i wan't to ask u one thing. Name me a player that after leaving Wenger's reign was better than the stature and the respect he received when he played for Arsenal.I just one you to name me ONE.

[firfi]

It's not only about money.We don't have people that can spend the money wisely .We cannot battle with CIty ,United or Chelsea in the spending spree. What we can do is spend it better we're buying unproven 1 season player Pepe for 72m + under the table only god knows how much with structure for 4-5 seasons to be paid that amount when the guy has had 1 good season and we did basically zero scouting on him.Even kid in high school can just check his stats and reasonably decide hes never worth that money.More than half of his goals we're from the penalty spot which can hardly be counted as the same value goals as open play ones. Besides that his ball control is really poor to average his passing ability is pretty average and the only thing he can do well is shoot.That played is worth around 30-45mil MAX.Yet we overpaid like over twice that just because we hired people that don't have a clue what they're doing and now that's draging us backwards.
Same people sacked Wenger without giving him really a good budget to spend and see what can happen.Same people hired Emery a bottlejob from PSG ,because they sacked Wenger and there weren't any good options available at the time.They just sacked him because that's what they felt was right without thinking of replacement at all.
Hiring a manager without experience in a club that wants instant improvements(Arteta) was on the same boat decision.
Combined we spend so much money in those seasons since Wenger left that we could have hired a manager like Alegri(proven) or someone of that caliber and given him the money to spend instead they decided to waste it.

We spent shitloads on players like chambers, xhaka and mustafi when Wenger was in charge though (and whilst ignoring gaping holes in the squad). Wenger going wasn't the problem, Wenger started the problem. It was always going to take years rather than a couple of transfer windows to undo the mess he left us with.

I agree those transfers were awful esp Mustafi.The other 2 are kinda average players we can get some return on our money.Buying young players for 20-35mil is kinda okay cause u can get half of the money returned quite easily.Which we don't do as often as we should.

But what about the fact Wenger turned Alexis into a beast of the other's he made players basically even in the last few seasons.His issue was always getting rid of players at the right time and buying new ones more smartly.Besides that he coached them super well.

Alexis was one of the best players in the world when we signed him. Wenger didn't 'make' anyone since Fabregas and Van Persie imo.

Your watching something else mate.He was outcast of Barcelona that couldn't get minutes.Was he good hell yea .But was he world class hell no.He was pretty average.Wenger made him superstar that City and United wanted to sign badly.And we can all see how that turned out after Arsenal.
I see you are one of those that don't respect Wenger and we're Wenger out. But i wan't to ask u one thing. Name me a player that after leaving Wenger's reign was better than the stature and the respect he received when he played for Arsenal.I just one you to name me ONE.

You very well know that we sold those players to build our Stadium.And we couldn't offer them the same money the other clubs did.But can u really say they were better after they left.Winning titles sure ,but where they really better.Apart from Ashley Cole ,but he left for money reasons(Cashley).

[Ach]

Don't think Cole was anywhere near as good at Chelsea as he was with us tbh

No idea what you guys are talking about but just thought I'd put that out there

[Arsenal Tone]

It's not only about money.We don't have people that can spend the money wisely .We cannot battle with CIty ,United or Chelsea in the spending spree. What we can do is spend it better we're buying unproven 1 season player Pepe for 72m + under the table only god knows how much with structure for 4-5 seasons to be paid that amount when the guy has had 1 good season and we did basically zero scouting on him.Even kid in high school can just check his stats and reasonably decide hes never worth that money.More than half of his goals we're from the penalty spot which can hardly be counted as the same value goals as open play ones. Besides that his ball control is really poor to average his passing ability is pretty average and the only thing he can do well is shoot.That played is worth around 30-45mil MAX.Yet we overpaid like over twice that just because we hired people that don't have a clue what they're doing and now that's draging us backwards.
Same people sacked Wenger without giving him really a good budget to spend and see what can happen.Same people hired Emery a bottlejob from PSG ,because they sacked Wenger and there weren't any good options available at the time.They just sacked him because that's what they felt was right without thinking of replacement at all.
Hiring a manager without experience in a club that wants instant improvements(Arteta) was on the same boat decision.
Combined we spend so much money in those seasons since Wenger left that we could have hired a manager like Alegri(proven) or someone of that caliber and given him the money to spend instead they decided to waste it.

We spent shitloads on players like chambers, xhaka and mustafi when Wenger was in charge though (and whilst ignoring gaping holes in the squad). Wenger going wasn't the problem, Wenger started the problem. It was always going to take years rather than a couple of transfer windows to undo the mess he left us with.

I agree those transfers were awful esp Mustafi.The other 2 are kinda average players we can get some return on our money.Buying young players for 20-35mil is kinda okay cause u can get half of the money returned quite easily.Which we don't do as often as we should.

But what about the fact Wenger turned Alexis into a beast of the other's he made players basically even in the last few seasons.His issue was always getting rid of players at the right time and buying new ones more smartly.Besides that he coached them super well.

Alexis was one of the best players in the world when we signed him. Wenger didn't 'make' anyone since Fabregas and Van Persie imo.

Your watching something else mate.He was outcast of Barcelona that couldn't get minutes.Was he good hell yea .But was he world class hell no.He was pretty average.Wenger made him superstar that City and United wanted to sign badly.And we can all see how that turned out after Arsenal.
I see you are one of those that don't respect Wenger and we're Wenger out. But i wan't to ask u one thing. Name me a player that after leaving Wenger's reign was better than the stature and the respect he received when he played for Arsenal.I just one you to name me ONE.

You very well know that we sold those players to build our Stadium.And we couldn't offer them the same money the other clubs did.But can u really say they were better after they left.Winning titles sure ,but where they really better.Apart from Ashley Cole ,but he left for money reasons(Cashley).

So he doesn't count either? [emoji38]

[firfi]

It's not only about money.We don't have people that can spend the money wisely .We cannot battle with CIty ,United or Chelsea in the spending spree. What we can do is spend it better we're buying unproven 1 season player Pepe for 72m + under the table only god knows how much with structure for 4-5 seasons to be paid that amount when the guy has had 1 good season and we did basically zero scouting on him.Even kid in high school can just check his stats and reasonably decide hes never worth that money.More than half of his goals we're from the penalty spot which can hardly be counted as the same value goals as open play ones. Besides that his ball control is really poor to average his passing ability is pretty average and the only thing he can do well is shoot.That played is worth around 30-45mil MAX.Yet we overpaid like over twice that just because we hired people that don't have a clue what they're doing and now that's draging us backwards.
Same people sacked Wenger without giving him really a good budget to spend and see what can happen.Same people hired Emery a bottlejob from PSG ,because they sacked Wenger and there weren't any good options available at the time.They just sacked him because that's what they felt was right without thinking of replacement at all.
Hiring a manager without experience in a club that wants instant improvements(Arteta) was on the same boat decision.
Combined we spend so much money in those seasons since Wenger left that we could have hired a manager like Alegri(proven) or someone of that caliber and given him the money to spend instead they decided to waste it.

We spent shitloads on players like chambers, xhaka and mustafi when Wenger was in charge though (and whilst ignoring gaping holes in the squad). Wenger going wasn't the problem, Wenger started the problem. It was always going to take years rather than a couple of transfer windows to undo the mess he left us with.

I agree those transfers were awful esp Mustafi.The other 2 are kinda average players we can get some return on our money.Buying young players for 20-35mil is kinda okay cause u can get half of the money returned quite easily.Which we don't do as often as we should.

But what about the fact Wenger turned Alexis into a beast of the other's he made players basically even in the last few seasons.His issue was always getting rid of players at the right time and buying new ones more smartly.Besides that he coached them super well.

Alexis was one of the best players in the world when we signed him. Wenger didn't 'make' anyone since Fabregas and Van Persie imo.

Your watching something else mate.He was outcast of Barcelona that couldn't get minutes.Was he good hell yea .But was he world class hell no.He was pretty average.Wenger made him superstar that City and United wanted to sign badly.And we can all see how that turned out after Arsenal.
I see you are one of those that don't respect Wenger and we're Wenger out. But i wan't to ask u one thing. Name me a player that after leaving Wenger's reign was better than the stature and the respect he received when he played for Arsenal.I just one you to name me ONE.

You very well know that we sold those players to build our Stadium.And we couldn't offer them the same money the other clubs did.But can u really say they were better after they left.Winning titles sure ,but where they really better.Apart from Ashley Cole ,but he left for money reasons(Cashley).

So he doesn't count either? [emoji38]

So according to you he was far better after he left us?

[Arsenal Tone]

It's not only about money.We don't have people that can spend the money wisely .We cannot battle with CIty ,United or Chelsea in the spending spree. What we can do is spend it better we're buying unproven 1 season player Pepe for 72m + under the table only god knows how much with structure for 4-5 seasons to be paid that amount when the guy has had 1 good season and we did basically zero scouting on him.Even kid in high school can just check his stats and reasonably decide hes never worth that money.More than half of his goals we're from the penalty spot which can hardly be counted as the same value goals as open play ones. Besides that his ball control is really poor to average his passing ability is pretty average and the only thing he can do well is shoot.That played is worth around 30-45mil MAX.Yet we overpaid like over twice that just because we hired people that don't have a clue what they're doing and now that's draging us backwards.
Same people sacked Wenger without giving him really a good budget to spend and see what can happen.Same people hired Emery a bottlejob from PSG ,because they sacked Wenger and there weren't any good options available at the time.They just sacked him because that's what they felt was right without thinking of replacement at all.
Hiring a manager without experience in a club that wants instant improvements(Arteta) was on the same boat decision.
Combined we spend so much money in those seasons since Wenger left that we could have hired a manager like Alegri(proven) or someone of that caliber and given him the money to spend instead they decided to waste it.

We spent shitloads on players like chambers, xhaka and mustafi when Wenger was in charge though (and whilst ignoring gaping holes in the squad). Wenger going wasn't the problem, Wenger started the problem. It was always going to take years rather than a couple of transfer windows to undo the mess he left us with.

I agree those transfers were awful esp Mustafi.The other 2 are kinda average players we can get some return on our money.Buying young players for 20-35mil is kinda okay cause u can get half of the money returned quite easily.Which we don't do as often as we should.

But what about the fact Wenger turned Alexis into a beast of the other's he made players basically even in the last few seasons.His issue was always getting rid of players at the right time and buying new ones more smartly.Besides that he coached them super well.

Alexis was one of the best players in the world when we signed him. Wenger didn't 'make' anyone since Fabregas and Van Persie imo.

Your watching something else mate.He was outcast of Barcelona that couldn't get minutes.Was he good hell yea .But was he world class hell no.He was pretty average.Wenger made him superstar that City and United wanted to sign badly.And we can all see how that turned out after Arsenal.
I see you are one of those that don't respect Wenger and we're Wenger out. But i wan't to ask u one thing. Name me a player that after leaving Wenger's reign was better than the stature and the respect he received when he played for Arsenal.I just one you to name me ONE.

You very well know that we sold those players to build our Stadium.And we couldn't offer them the same money the other clubs did.But can u really say they were better after they left.Winning titles sure ,but where they really better.Apart from Ashley Cole ,but he left for money reasons(Cashley).

So he doesn't count either? [emoji38]

So according to you he was far better after he left us?

So according to you he left us and his career went down hill? After he left he had more success than any left back who played under Wenger since.

[firfi]

It's not only about money.We don't have people that can spend the money wisely .We cannot battle with CIty ,United or Chelsea in the spending spree. What we can do is spend it better we're buying unproven 1 season player Pepe for 72m + under the table only god knows how much with structure for 4-5 seasons to be paid that amount when the guy has had 1 good season and we did basically zero scouting on him.Even kid in high school can just check his stats and reasonably decide hes never worth that money.More than half of his goals we're from the penalty spot which can hardly be counted as the same value goals as open play ones. Besides that his ball control is really poor to average his passing ability is pretty average and the only thing he can do well is shoot.That played is worth around 30-45mil MAX.Yet we overpaid like over twice that just because we hired people that don't have a clue what they're doing and now that's draging us backwards.
Same people sacked Wenger without giving him really a good budget to spend and see what can happen.Same people hired Emery a bottlejob from PSG ,because they sacked Wenger and there weren't any good options available at the time.They just sacked him because that's what they felt was right without thinking of replacement at all.
Hiring a manager without experience in a club that wants instant improvements(Arteta) was on the same boat decision.
Combined we spend so much money in those seasons since Wenger left that we could have hired a manager like Alegri(proven) or someone of that caliber and given him the money to spend instead they decided to waste it.

We spent shitloads on players like chambers, xhaka and mustafi when Wenger was in charge though (and whilst ignoring gaping holes in the squad). Wenger going wasn't the problem, Wenger started the problem. It was always going to take years rather than a couple of transfer windows to undo the mess he left us with.

I agree those transfers were awful esp Mustafi.The other 2 are kinda average players we can get some return on our money.Buying young players for 20-35mil is kinda okay cause u can get half of the money returned quite easily.Which we don't do as often as we should.

But what about the fact Wenger turned Alexis into a beast of the other's he made players basically even in the last few seasons.His issue was always getting rid of players at the right time and buying new ones more smartly.Besides that he coached them super well.

Alexis was one of the best players in the world when we signed him. Wenger didn't 'make' anyone since Fabregas and Van Persie imo.

Your watching something else mate.He was outcast of Barcelona that couldn't get minutes.Was he good hell yea .But was he world class hell no.He was pretty average.Wenger made him superstar that City and United wanted to sign badly.And we can all see how that turned out after Arsenal.
I see you are one of those that don't respect Wenger and we're Wenger out. But i wan't to ask u one thing. Name me a player that after leaving Wenger's reign was better than the stature and the respect he received when he played for Arsenal.I just one you to name me ONE.

You very well know that we sold those players to build our Stadium.And we couldn't offer them the same money the other clubs did.But can u really say they were better after they left.Winning titles sure ,but where they really better.Apart from Ashley Cole ,but he left for money reasons(Cashley).

So he doesn't count either? [emoji38]

So according to you he was far better after he left us?

So according to you he left us and his career went down hill? After he left he had more success than any left back who played under Wenger since.

He played in the most successful club in the years since.The team that has spent the most money in the time he played under them. Money spend usually corresponds to the achievements a team makes.