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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby LMAO » Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:47 am

yadunoe wrote:What have city Chelsea and others spent . Fact is time and time again we cheaped out and early Emirates era we sold so many players to pay bills kroenke should pay that


Expenditures last four seasons (16/17-19/20, from transfermarkt):
Manchester City: €777.59M
Chelsea: €647.10M
Manchester United: €625.10M
Everton: €508.90M
Arsenal: €498.44M
Liverpool: €446.38M
Leicester City: €400.00M
Tottenham: €319.00M
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby yadunoe » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:30 am

LMAO wrote:
yadunoe wrote:What have city Chelsea and others spent . Fact is time and time again we cheaped out and early Emirates era we sold so many players to pay bills kroenke should pay that


Expenditures last four seasons (16/17-19/20, from transfermarkt):
Manchester City: €777.59M
Chelsea: €647.10M
Manchester United: €625.10M
Everton: €508.90M
Arsenal: €498.44M
Liverpool: €446.38M
Leicester City: €400.00M
Tottenham: €319.00M

Spent less then everton and Kroenke hires the people who scout the player
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Tubbs » Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:18 am

I’ve just heard that FFP could affect us during the Jan transfer, one of the reasons being Stan Kroenke has not invested any money in the club this season is that correct? If so am I correct in saying we can only use any money from sales to purchase new players?
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Re: KROENKE OUT!

Postby Rerktyne » Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:21 pm

Arsene Nose wrote:For over a hundred years we've been owned by rich families. Right from Henry Norris and the Hill-Woods through Kroenke. This isn't going to change. The fans have no impact on who owns the club and never have. So this Kroenke Out business is moot.

That point of view is so wrong: it doesn’t matter who owns the club: the fans own the club. If they stay away there is no club.
And the share price drops and the team begins to fail.
It’s all up to the fans. Trouble is they are still like medieval morons who folliwed their King no matter what!
Idiots!
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Arsenal Tone » Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:37 pm

Tubbs wrote:I’ve just heard that FFP could affect us during the Jan transfer, one of the reasons being Stan Kroenke has not invested any money in the club this season is that correct? If so am I correct in saying we can only use any money from sales to purchase new players?
No different to last season. I expect loan deals with an option to buy in the summer unless we sell players.
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Re: KROENKE OUT!

Postby Rerktyne » Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:48 pm

Arsene Nose wrote:For over a hundred years we've been owned by rich families. Right from Henry Norris and the Hill-Woods through Kroenke. This isn't going to change. The fans have no impact on who owns the club and never have. So this Kroenke Out business is moot.

That point of view is so wrong: it doesn’t matter who owns the club: the fans own the club. If they stay away there is no club.
And the share price drops and the team begins to fail.
It’s all up to the fans. Trouble is they are still like medieval morons who folliwed their King no matter what!
Idiots!
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby theHotHead » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:01 am

yadunoe wrote:
LMAO wrote:
yadunoe wrote:What have city Chelsea and others spent . Fact is time and time again we cheaped out and early Emirates era we sold so many players to pay bills kroenke should pay that


Expenditures last four seasons (16/17-19/20, from transfermarkt):
Manchester City: €777.59M
Chelsea: €647.10M
Manchester United: €625.10M
Everton: €508.90M
Arsenal: €498.44M
Liverpool: €446.38M
Leicester City: €400.00M
Tottenham: €319.00M

Spent less then everton and Kroenke hires the people who scout the player

You conveniently ignored the fact that Liverpool and Spurs have spent less than us but have consistently finished above us in that time period!

But that fact kills your argument so I don't expect you to acknowledge it.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby theHotHead » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:39 am

Not really a flash in the pan, they performed consistently well with Pochetino and their performances did not drop when Kane was out of the side. Remember how well they played leading up to the CL final without Kane ?!!!
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby EliteKiller » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:49 am

Saibotkram88 wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
yadunoe wrote:
LMAO wrote:
yadunoe wrote:What have city Chelsea and others spent . Fact is time and time again we cheaped out and early Emirates era we sold so many players to pay bills kroenke should pay that


Expenditures last four seasons (16/17-19/20, from transfermarkt):
Manchester City: €777.59M
Chelsea: €647.10M
Manchester United: €625.10M
Everton: €508.90M
Arsenal: €498.44M
Liverpool: €446.38M
Leicester City: €400.00M
Tottenham: €319.00M

Spent less then everton and Kroenke hires the people who scout the player

You conveniently ignored the fact that Liverpool and Spurs have spent less than us but have consistently finished above us in that time period!

But that fact kills your argument so I don't expect you to acknowledge it.

In terms of Liverpool it is simply outstanding business. But look at how Klopp gets average players to play for him.
Spurs had the miracle of discovering Harry Kane right before they were about to bin him. They'll lose lots of players this summer and take ages to replace them adequately. Flash in the pan for them and they won nothing from it too!


How about Leicester - nearly 100m less ... or are they a flash in the pan as well?
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby theHotHead » Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:43 am

Well its easy to explain - just look at Arsenal. Shit manager/management, players down tools. New manager chooses system that suits the players they have, the team over performs as a result. Leicester are where they are on merit this season, not luck at all.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby greengoonerie » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:34 am

theHotHead wrote:Well its easy to explain - just look at Arsenal. Shit manager/management, players down tools. New manager chooses system that suits the players they have, the team over performs as a result. Leicester are where they are on merit this season, not luck at all.
No.

Palace on Saturtay was the perfect example. Shit attitude by senior players.

We have a number of players with shit attitude. It's too early to say, but that's the biggest challenge facing Arteta - getting players to believe in him and raise their game as a result. Arsenal are currently performing at their level - ie - mid table (it kills me to say this!) and if Kroenke is happy with this then we can expect things to remain the same.

Liverpool have bought into Klopp
Leicester have bought into Rodgers
Spurs will buy into Mourinho
City have bought into Guardiola

United have NOT bought into Ole and he will be sacked soon enough. United will NOT keep a shit manager.

Too early to say about Everton and Ancelotti as well.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby theHotHead » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:12 pm

They have already raised their game considerably from under Emery and from what we are hearing the players have bought in to Arteta's philosophy.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby EliteKiller » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:16 pm

See Aliko Dangote is giving it the big one about buying us out again ... plenty of money to be laundered from him ....
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Ach » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:50 pm

Nigerian billionaire Aliko Dangote, 62, says he is looking to buy Arsenal in 2021. (Evening Standard)


I remember he sent me an email once.

Shouldn't have ignored it.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby VCC » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:34 am

Ach wrote:
Nigerian billionaire Aliko Dangote, 62, says he is looking to buy Arsenal in 2021. (Evening Standard)


I remember he sent me an email once.

Shouldn't have ignored it.

Is he your uncle as well
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