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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby theHotHead » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:11 am

I'm not a fan of Kroenke, I hate the guy and wish he would f**k off, but I cannot blame him for our demise, I just can't. The club has not stopped spending money since he took charge. I can blame him for keeping Wenger too long, but he got rid in the end. some might say he shouldn't have hired Emery - well they sacked him after 18 months.

Kroenke isn't the reason we bought a whole load of average players at inflated prices. Kroenke isn't responsible for sending teams out half-cocked playing a shit system and shit tactics. Thats all on the recent managers.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby StLGooner » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:03 pm

theHotHead wrote:I'm not a fan of Kroenke, I hate the guy and wish he would f**k off, but I cannot blame him for our demise, I just can't. The club has not stopped spending money since he took charge. I can blame him for keeping Wenger too long, but he got rid in the end. some might say he shouldn't have hired Emery - well they sacked him after 18 months.

Kroenke isn't the reason we bought a whole load of average players at inflated prices. Kroenke isn't responsible for sending teams out half-cocked playing a shit system and shit tactics. Thats all on the recent managers.



Is he responsible for putting the people in charge that made those bad decisions?

To me if the club is failing, then everyone associated deserves blame.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby theHotHead » Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:07 pm

OK, he must shoulder some of the blame, it happened on his watch. But 80% of the blame goes to those fuckwits Wenger and Emery.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby StLGooner » Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:11 pm

There is enough blame to spread around. Lets give some to the ball boys too while we're at it. ;)
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Arsenal Tone » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:27 pm

theHotHead wrote:OK, he must shoulder some of the blame, it happened on his watch. But 80% of the blame goes to those fuckwits Wenger and Emery.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Rockape » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:30 pm

Splashing cash does definitely work if you do it correctly and buy the right players at the right time.


No shit Sherlock!

Unfortunately, you only find out if any of those three criteria have worked.........after you've splashed the cash! ;)
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby StLGooner » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:15 pm

Rockape wrote:
Splashing cash does definitely work if you do it correctly and buy the right players at the right time.


No shit Sherlock!

Unfortunately, you only find out if any of those three criteria have worked.........after you've splashed the cash! ;)



It's not so obvious to some though.

And technically you never know if anything you did worked until afterwards.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:46 pm

Need him to bail us out with a £68m bid for Coutinho. Barca is willing to let him go at that price.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Zanatos3 » Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:51 pm

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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Marsbar100 » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:15 pm

Doesn't bode well
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:21 pm

Surely means exits for several players in the summer. Also means Ceballos' deal won't be made permanent.

I'd take one season out of Europe playing a mostly young side (Martinelli, Nketiah, Saka, Tierney, Willock) over the current bunch of hapless overpaid 'stars' we currently have.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby ag6789 » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:29 pm

Ceballos isn't that good either. Should try to get back Fabregas for a short stint.
But in any case a quality CM is a must in Summer.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:25 am

ag6789 wrote:Ceballos isn't that good either. Should try to get back Fabregas for a short stint.
But in any case a quality CM is a must in Summer.


I agree he hasn't been that good, but he's the right age and available for €30m and we can't turn up out noses at that. At this point, any player that isnt putting in PEA, Saka, Martinelli type performances is getting written off as shit.

That's unfair. He's a loan player who's been injured for a few months and in the midst of a totally dysfunctional team. PEA, Saka and GM are exceptions, not the rule. Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Zenith » Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:15 pm

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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby StLGooner » Wed May 20, 2020 4:09 pm

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Risk is a four-letter word, and Rams owner Stan Kroenke sure took on a lot of it when he moved his franchise from St. Louis to Los Angeles four years ago and set about building the most expensive football stadium in history.

As part of the deal to return to the nation’s second-largest market, Kroenke agreed to give the Chargers a sweetheart deal as a tenant, with the understanding that he would shoulder the overwhelming majority of the stadium costs.

In the interim, the price tag of SoFi Stadium has soared to $5 billion, double the original projections, and the Chargers have fallen roughly $300 million short of their projected $400 million in seat-licensed sales, money earmarked for construction costs. They have pointed to the COVID-19 pandemic as one of the reasons for that shortfall. While that certainly couldn’t have helped, this problem was years in the making.

So it was significant Tuesday when NFL owners voted unanimously to provide Kroenke an additional $500 million in financing, along with an extended period to pay it back. It was an acknowledgement of the risk he took in moving to L.A., and privately financing a stadium that figures to be the West Coast hub for the league.

That request was in the pipeline before the current national financial crisis, so it’s not a direct response to these difficult times. But the stakes are unquestionably higher now for a stadium that already has been delayed a year, and might not have any fans pass through its doors this season.

Here’s the original deal Kroenke and the NFL hammered out: The Chargers pay $1 annually in rent, and bring with them 10 games per season, a $200-million league loan, and whatever they can raise in seat-license sales. In exchange, the Chargers get a shiny new home, and a share in a portion of stadium sponsorships and annual suite payments.

Kroenke is responsible for construction costs, and pitches in an identical league loan, as well as Rams seat-license sales. Besides the stadium money on a Chargers game day — and the aforementioned share of sponsorships and suites — Kroenke receives all other revenue generated by the 298-acre Inglewood site throughout the year.

It’s as if the Rams are on a bicycle built for two, and at the base of a huge and steeper-than-expected hill. Now, they have to do almost all the pedaling.

What will be fascinating to watch is how these heightened hurdles of the moment affect the relationship between the Rams and Chargers, who aren’t just housemates but the product of the most exorbitant and risky shotgun wedding in sports history.



Possibly could effect us if it hasn't already.
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