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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Sims » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:52 pm

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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Sims » Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:38 am

arteta confirmed that kroenke invested in order to get partey

"But they showed this time, with big funds, that they are here and they are really committed to what we are trying to do."


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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Power n Glory » Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:41 am

They're doing what's necessary.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Angelito » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:23 pm

Sims wrote:arteta confirmed that kroenke invested in order to get partey

"But they showed this time, with big funds, that they are here and they are really committed to what we are trying to do."


https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/ ... y-19114124


Oh great!

It's as if he agreed to pay for his son's hair transplant. What an honorable man—paying from his pocket to fund a company that he is the 98% owner of!
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby yadunoe » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:01 am

So why didn't he pay 50m and get auaor ? This is all PR bs kroenke never does enough to get players over the line thats why transfers at arsenal take so long and we always linked with a player all window and don't sign thats why the arsenal almost XI would destroy our team 20-0 lol thats why we will never win a title under kroenke arsenal will never be a big club under kroenke ive been saying for last 10 years . Wenger was never the problem it was always kroneke if usmanov dangote or MBS was owner we would of won the league by now and Wenger would still be here
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Dejan » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:07 am

Because he doesnt trust our recruiting team with money

I wouldnt either.

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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby yadunoe » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:15 am

Dejan wrote:Because he doesnt trust our recruiting team with money

I wouldnt either.

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Then why doesn't he fire them wnd hire people he trust? And has consistently been one or two players shy of what we really need. He never address a concern till 4 years later and another open up
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:16 pm

yadunoe wrote:So why didn't he pay 50m and get auaor ? This is all PR bs kroenke never does enough to get players over the line thats why transfers at arsenal take so long and we always linked with a player all window and don't sign thats why the arsenal almost XI would destroy our team 20-0 lol thats why we will never win a title under kroenke arsenal will never be a big club under kroenke ive been saying for last 10 years . Wenger was never the problem it was always kroneke if usmanov dangote or MBS was owner we would of won the league by now and Wenger would still be here


Because he already had to bridge the £30m gap between the 15 we got for for Emi and the 45 in the release clause. Plus there are the fees for Pepe, Gabriel, Saliba and Willian, not to mention an £18m owed to Ozil, at a time when we're making record losses and no match day revenue.

Maybe if we were actually able to sell players instead of loaning them out for peanuts, we might not have had to choose between Partey and Aouar
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby yadunoe » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:36 pm

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yadunoe wrote:So why didn't he pay 50m and get auaor ? This is all PR bs kroenke never does enough to get players over the line thats why transfers at arsenal take so long and we always linked with a player all window and don't sign thats why the arsenal almost XI would destroy our team 20-0 lol thats why we will never win a title under kroenke arsenal will never be a big club under kroenke ive been saying for last 10 years . Wenger was never the problem it was always kroneke if usmanov dangote or MBS was owner we would of won the league by now and Wenger would still be here


Because he already had to bridge the £30m gap between the 15 we got for for Emi and the 45 in the release clause. Plus there are the fees for Pepe, Gabriel, Saliba and Willian, not to mention an £18m owed to Ozil, at a time when we're making record losses and no match day revenue.

Maybe if we were actually able to sell players instead of loaning them out for peanuts, we might not have had to choose between Partey and Aouar

we are arsenal football clubs one of the biggest clubs in the world , its a simple as this for me if MBS dangote or usmanov was owner we wouldnt have to sell shit to get any players. either kroenke ponys up the 500m it would take to get us back to being a big club or he can f**k off with the rest of shit board and players that are employed by him do you MBS dangote or usmanov would accept a absolute novice in arteta managing arsenal football club one of the biggest in the world? hell the f**k no they would of got allegri poch mou simeone in and paid them whatever they want. everyone always give example of liverpool but imo they got lucky with minimal injuries and perfect buys in an normal world where alot of big clubs waste money they wouldnt be lucky and probably wont win again. real owners dont accept mediocre results from their employees at arsenal its accepted for too long and thats all down to kroenke as he owns the club and every decision is his or done by ppl he hired
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby yadunoe » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:41 pm

for me the only way to save arsenal football club is to have a mass protest and a concentrated effort to remove kroenke out of arsenal until then all arguments arteta in or out ozil in or out is futile as we will never have enough to win the league or champions league under kroenke thats the harsh reality we are a small club until he sells arsenal only then we will be a big club again . even if jesus himself was manager we would still be shit
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby DiamondGooner » Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:45 pm

Its all his money.

He didn't inject a fkin dime.

Arsenal has cash reserves of millions from Wenger's time, all he did "underwriting" it is approved it to be used.

It wasn't surplus from transfers, it was what we needed over the top of what we made from Martinez etc, however the cash was already in the club, he didn't put any extra in.

............ and even if he did, what difference does it make if the money came from the AFC vault or one of his other accounts? because effectively that's what the AFC vault is now ........ one of his accounts.

AFC made this story to try and celebrate our owner allowing a transfer, I mean wtf, desperation and just a PR exercise to try and make it look like we have a good owner.

What other club do you know who does that?
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby theHotHead » Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:35 pm

How can anyone still be blaming Kroenke for our mess ?? The man sanctioned £72m for Pepe FFS, Kroenke will spend the money, since he took over he has spent money and he continues to do so.

The problem has been the so-called football experts that have ruined the squad.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Angelito » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:17 pm

theHotHead wrote:How can anyone still be blaming Kroenke for our mess ?? The man sanctioned £72m for Pepe FFS, Kroenke will spend the money, since he took over he has spent money and he continues to do so.

The problem has been the so-called football experts that have ruined the squad.


He has to take responsibility. He's the owner. He's been sanctioning these recruitment at management level. It's no longer an issue about finances alone as it was during the Wenger era. We're mismanaged at every level from the board to the players.

People won't agree with me here, which is fine, but I believe we need to bring Wenger back to head our footballing operations at board level, whilst hiring Pochettino or a similar manager. We don't have football people up top. That's showing.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:25 pm

Angelito wrote:
theHotHead wrote:How can anyone still be blaming Kroenke for our mess ?? The man sanctioned £72m for Pepe FFS, Kroenke will spend the money, since he took over he has spent money and he continues to do so.

The problem has been the so-called football experts that have ruined the squad.


He has to take responsibility. He's the owner. He's been sanctioning these recruitment at management level. It's no longer an issue about finances alone as it was during the Wenger era. We're mismanaged at every level from the board to the players.

People won't agree with me here, which is fine, but I believe we need to bring Wenger back to head our footballing operations at board level, whilst hiring Pochettino or a similar manager. We don't have football people up top. That's showing.


He's taken accountability for that by bringing in Tim Lewis to investigate the Pepe deal and kicking Raul's ass out of the club.

Edu has done a good job; Martinelli and Saka tied down, plus Partey and Gabriel. Soares will be useful. Only Willian might have been a mistake and that's on Arteta, he was the one pushing for it.

As for Wengerian times, I seem to recall that we also had 4th highest wages in the league then, and that was before he OK'd Ozil and PEA's mega-contracts in 2018. He also sanctioned Mustafi and Xhaka's contracts, which are generous enough that both are happy to ride them out instead of transferring somewhere else.
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Re: The Kroenke Problem

Postby theHotHead » Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:53 pm

I don't see what more he can do. He gave Wenger money to spend, he took away Wenger's power, he brought in a more "modern" structure that included a DoF, he brought in Raul who was DoF at Barcelona, he brought in one of the so-called hottest recruiters in Mislintat, he sacked Wenger and brought in a moderately successful coach in Emery, who should really have done a lot better at Arsenal.

In hindsight the Arteta appointment looks to be a mistake, but nobody was saying that at the end of last season !!! And through all of this he has continued to back managers financially.
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