Hahaha, if you think using slang words reduces people to be "lacking in education" you are a bigger fool than I suspected - and expectations were already pretty low based on your previous post. Well done sir, you have outdone yourself
Now to take apart your poorly put together post.
"Context", its a simple word. You claim my original argument lacked an actual point. No it didn't, you are just too stupid to understand what I wrote. Some background. Dejan asked how KT was captain material because he "doesn't seem to talk at all". DG responded by saying he leads by example and that he was "sick of seeing Luiz bark orders then give away a penalty". Dejan responded by saying "that is not enough" i.e. leading by example is not enough to be a leader/captain. Callum then responded with "the days of dominating personalities are mostly gone and I'm not sure we will find many players who are" and "Tierney is not massively vocal but he leads by example".
At that point in the discussion I responded by saying "I didn't agree" - I don't agree that there are not many dominating personalities/vocal players left in the game. I then made a simple comparison close to home, Emi who is very vocal and Leno who isn't very vocal. Then to highlight my point further I went through every club in the Premier League and listed their captains and commented on how vocal they are.
So lets be clear about this, the discussion was centred on vocal players, players that bark out instructions to other players. By providing the list I backed up my comment that, in fact, there are plenty of vocal players in the league. Of the 20 clubs in the league I listed 9 of them whose captains are vocal. 7 I didn't know so couldn't comment, 2 I said were definitely not vocal. I missed out Man City, Fernandinho, I don't know. Its not looking good so far for the definite non vocals versus definitely vocal captains regarding numbers.
But but but, my post lacked an actual point, according to you
You then question the impact of my analysis and claimed 35% of it was useless, well, only if your brain is incapable of looking at data, patterns and probability. If I confirmed, according to your numbers, that 55% of the captains in the English Premier League are vocal, it proves my point that there are plenty of vocal captains around and that Callum was wrong. It shows that only 10% were confirmed as not being vocal which shows that non vocal captains in the EPL are in a very small minority. Where the remaining 35% sit is irrelevant because my point has already been made, but using probability, looking at the situation, the EPL where the speed and the physicality is not like other leagues and where emphasis on captains through all levels of senior football in this country heavily gravitates to leaders/dominant vocal characters, there is a strong chance that a high number of the 35% are also vocal.
You ask if those 55% are good captains ? Shouting by itself does not make you a good captain, but the chances are far more good captains shout than those that don't shout. Based on the football I have played every single captain for the 4 semi-pro clubs I played at shouted. They shouted to get you in position, they shouted in the changing room to gee you up, they shouted if you did something stupid or if you were lazy, they encouraged you if you made a mistake, they jumped in to confrontations and defended their players. They got "stuck in" when the going got tough. Thats the job description of a football captain right there. They never bark rubbish, thats why they are captains. The fact you asked that question tells me you actually don't know what you are talking about.
Your Joe Hart example is a pointless one. Goalkeepers shout a lot, Leno is more an exception than the rule, they have to shout a lot. but Joe Hart wasnt the captain, Kompany was, the only thing Joe Hart could tell Kompany was about positioning. In any case, you don't need to be the best player on the pitch to be a good captain, just like you don't nbeed to have been good at football to make a top coach/manager.
Of course Hart can tell Kompany to stand up, Hart has the best view of whats around Kompany, you don't need to be an experienced footballer to be able to tell an experienced footballer what to do in certain situations. Its not like Hart is a salesman shouting stuff at Kompany, he is an experienced footballer, he knows what will happen if Kompany dives in, in a specific situaton, given that he has a better view of the wider area. Which is why when you play football communication is drilled into you, talking is drilled into you, they do drills based on communication on the pitch.
Nothing I have written is rocket science, its all common sense.
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:35 pm
