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Postby UFGN » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:59 pm

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Re: Some quality posts you don't want to miss

Postby Arsenal Tone » Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:18 pm

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Özim wrote:Not being funny, but even mentioning the grass is basically using that as an excuse, if not you wouldn't mention it. We have better players than Burnley, he's got 4 draws on the trot he needed to win and yet his team got schooled by Burnley who should have won.

It's on him, not the grass, as for those blaming the team, well yes the team isn't great, but then neither is the Everton team and Ancelotti is doing a better job with them despite them being below us when Arteta started, you don't hear him talking about the grass. The facts are there in black and white, 8 points out of 21 that's 38% of points.

If you'd told people we're going to get a new manager and but he'll only get 8 points out of the first 21 and whether they were happy to have him, pretty sure people would have said no, get someone better.

It's been a dreadful start to his management career, there's no sugar coating that.


This was disappointing result and performance and I don't think Arteta did himself any favours. I'm rooting for him but this should have been a win and it's a worry that we were lucky not to lose. We just didn't look good in possession and his decisions on subs didn't help either.

Spurs were 14th when they decided to let Poch go and decided to bring in Mourinho. They are now 5th and 4 points behind Chelsea for 4th.

Everton were 18th and in the relegation when they sacked Silva. They moved up to 15th when they hired Ancelotti. They are now ahead of us in 9th.

It's not impossible to climb up the table in a short period. It's time to start picking up the easy points.
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Re: Some quality posts you don't want to miss

Postby Arsenal Tone » Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:42 pm

theHotHead wrote:Some Outrageous arguments being made here. Wenger foolishly and naively expected FFP to level the playing field, it didn't. Mistake number 1.

Mistake number 2, Wenger adopted the stupid 1 year contract for 30+ year olds which led to the break up of the Invincibles prematurely.

Mistake number 3, Wenger tried to turn us into Barca Lite, playing tiki-taka football with lots of small technical players which did not suit the physical nature of the Premier League and made us soft as shite.

Mistake number 4 Wenger adopted the socialist model whereby young players and players at a lower level to the top players all earned far more money than they should have been paid. It made our wage bill keep apace with those clubs above us while the squad quality reduced season after season. This final mistake is the reason why we are screwed right now!!

Our current situation is nobody else's fault but Arsene Wenger.

Forget to mention, he spunked a shitload of money on some tragically bad players too.


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Re: Some quality posts you don't want to miss

Postby Arsenal Tone » Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:27 am

Rockape wrote:There has been considerable revisionism about Arsenal’s Invincibles. Too many draws, not enough points, apparently. Over time the achievement of Arsene Wenger’s 2003-04 team has been slowly diminished.
So events at Vicarage Road at least restored balance. It was a feat, unparalleled, since the days of bare-knuckle fighting and Vincent van Gogh. A team as great as Jurgen Klopp’s Liverpool could not pull it off.
They might win every match from here, record the greatest points total in English football history, but they couldn’t go a season without losing. Arsenal remain alone, in the modern era. That still means something. That should never be disparaged.

It was Sir Alex Ferguson, naturally, who started it. ‘Too many draws,’ he would sneer. And, yes, there were quite a few. Arsenal drew 12 matches of 38, which was double the number of Manchester United in that campaign. But United lost nine times.
So it turns out drawing isn’t always that easy, or invincibility would be commonplace. And Arsenal won plenty, too. The second-best team that season were Chelsea — and Arsenal beat them home and away.
They were 11 points clear by the end, the second highest winning margin in 19 years, only eclipsed by Manchester United in 1999-2000. But United lost three times that season. It’s not easy staying unbeaten.

True, the last three titles have been won with a points total greater than the Invincibles’ 90, including Manchester City becoming the first to three figures in 2017-18. Yet in the 10 seasons before that, nobody had topped Arsenal. Indeed, in the era of three points for a win just seven champions in 38 have exceeded 90 points.
Nor did Arsenal have it all their own way. On the first day of the season, they went down to 10 men against Everton when Sol Campbell was sent off after 25 minutes, but won.
They also recorded wins from losing positions against Tottenham, Liverpool and Leicester at home, and Manchester City, Liverpool and Chelsea away. They came back to draw against Portsmouth twice and Charlton. This was a gutsy team. The comeback victory over Leicester was on the final day of the season when the crown of invincibility seemed about to slip. Paul Dickov put Leicester ahead, Arsenal found a way to win.

And they did so at a time when football had never been faster or more athletically demanding. Preston’s Invincibles of 1888-89 didn’t have to deal with a crossbar or any pitch markings bar the centre line.
Their goalkeeper could handle the ball anywhere on the pitch and was given to putting up an umbrella when it rained. Arsenal had to resist the remains of Manchester United’s Treble-winners and the prototype of Mourinho’s Chelsea. They had to overcome teams inspired by John Terry, Steven Gerrard and Roy Keane.
They never had to play at Vicarage Road, but other trips were no less daunting. And they didn’t lose. Not once. It has taken Watford to remind us what an achievement that was.
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Re: Some quality posts you don't want to miss

Postby Arsenal Tone » Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:10 am

Gordon Bennit wrote:Looking at the thread title, I'd have thought the reasons for adulation were obvious. It doesn't need to be a comparison to Wenger, Chapman or anyone else in order to appreciate what George Graham did for the club.

Firstly, he was a member of the Double team of '71 so deserves legendary status for that alone. I don't mean a statue to genuflect over, just a ton of respect and a place in Arsenal folklore. Even if he did try and claim the first goal in the Cup final! Ironically, when he returned to the club, he was still the only person in the place to have lifted the Championship (unless Geordie Armstrong was there, not sure).

The back 4. THE back 4. It was George's decision to make a young Tony Adams the club captain and lynchpin of the defence aligned with incredibly astute signings. In 'Addicted' Adams mentions George beaming at him after Anfield, telling him that he always knew 'the Stoke boys' would come good. He must also deserve some credit, whilst the individuals concerned should take much more, when Adams was getting donkey chants and Lee Dixon had to listen to 'If Lee Dixon can play for England so can I,' for keeping them going.

Whether he man managed Adams well, or allowed him to crash and burn, knowing he would manage to come back each time as a colossus is another issue. However, Adams did credit him over the way he managed Ian Wright. Wrighty, who was of course, signed by George and would go on to become the leading scorer in Arsenal history, overtaking Arsenal legend Cliff Bastin, before Ian himself was overtaken by some French guy ;)

While the back 4 would create history for more than a decade, they needed someone equal to them between the posts. Lukic was the first player I remember doubting. He must have been pretty good obviously, winning another title with dirty Leeds, but in the 'Champions' video, George said that 'David Seaman was the best.' Indeed he was. I don't give a shiny shite what the pundits and experts say, I would rather have that calm, unflappable Yorkshire bloke in goal any day, rather than the Dane.

Trophies. 6 of them, including the first Cup 'Double,' the only European trophy I've ever seen us win and 2 titles. One title was won with a single defeat, which even the media-obsessed dippers haven't managed this year. This was despite losing the captain to a prison sentence, a 2 point deduction for a brawl which may not have happened had the ref spotted a sly kick from Brian McClair previous to it and fines for both the club and manager (I think!)

In the Cup Winners' Cup (great trophy, never understood why they did away with that) Arsenal triumphed over arguably superior opposition. Paris St Germain were very good; they had Ginola, a Brazilian called Valdo, not sure he ever played for Brazil at the World Cup, which tells you what a team they had in '94 and a really good goalie, whose name escapes me. George and the team shut them out for 180 mins before taking on Parma. Brolin, the pre chocolate one, Asprilla and Zola. 1-0 to the Arsenal, yet again. The defence were awesome but again, credit to the manager who had to select a team and prepare them tactically without Ian Wright, after his personal Gazza moment.

As for Anfield '89? We hadn't been champions for 18 years (in fact we had only won 2 titles in the previous 36 years), Liverpool were on a wave of emotion, were going for the Double, were 3 points clear and top going into the last game, were at home, hadn't lost by 2 goals there in 2 years, were the reigning champs and had legends such as Barnes, Rush, Aldridge and Beardsley. George picked a team which featured David O'Leary as an extra defender which even surprised seasoned commentator Brian Moore (RIP). No more needs to be said.

It's laughable to think of Arsenal being boring, when the only reason we won the title in '89 was scoring more goals than Liverpool.

What's with the adulation of George Graham? Forget the bungs. He made Arsenal the best team in the country again, Twice. He made an 11 year old able to strut around the playground which was full of Liverpool or Man Utd fans, most of whom didn;t have a clue about their team's history, just loud mouths and too many of them. And he also wrote to that 11 year old twice, when I sent letters of support to the team. I don't give a shit whether the words were his, but the imprint on the back of them and the accompanying photos signed in biro, are good enough for me. Cheers George.


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Re: Some quality posts you don't want to miss

Postby Arsenal Tone » Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:26 pm

Jedi wrote:
EliteKiller wrote:The contract is costing 35m over three years - that's 220k a week or 20m in bonuses and 100k a week - bottom line it's still 35m. If he plays like a 220k a week player and earns all his bonuses then that's definitely worth it, only time will tell.

Guess we should do this with every deal then. Arsenal paid a 72 mil transfer fee for Pepe + he reportedly signed a 5 year deal earning around 140k a week so that means the contract costing 420k a week.

Auba cost 52 million transfer fee on a 3,5 year contract earning 200k per week so that means the contract is nearly 490k a week.

Willian suddenly looks like the cheapest signing of all time.
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Re: Some quality posts you don't wanna miss

Postby Callum » Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:54 am

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Propa_Nutcase wrote:Had a great weekend out myself.

Turned up at Asda at 11:58pm straight out the boozer, drove straight down to the front of the shop doors and got out leaving the boot open and engine running, even left the top down on the convertible to fit more things in.

By the time i got there the queues were in the hundreds, i walked straight to the front knocking through all the kids and older women that were standing in the way.

Shortly after the barriers were open, everyone rushed to the things they wanted like in the video clips, I just walked up taking stock of what items I wanted and which shelves they were on. By the time I got to the aisles these chavs were already scrapping over the last of the tvs, I picked one up under the armpits and threw him into the refrigerated section sprawling amongst the milk and butter. I told the other to hand over the tv if he wanted to keep his teeth, and he duly obliged by dropping it between my feet and apologising

Taking the tv I went over to see about the tablets, a batch of samsung galaxys were about to be dropped by one of the customer service staff. all the black friday shoppers were waiting in anticipation, waiting with their tongues out like a pack of hyenas. 'i'm not taking the chance' i thought. I approached over the woman's shoulder and took all the tablets out of her hands, flicking through the colours i wanted and just thinking how much i could sell them for. i momentarily paused to check the crowds faces to see if there were any objections to my behaviour, but this was just met with an awkward silence. over my shoulder i noticed the lad was still wedged in the milk, struggling to wriggle his arse out the bottom of the fridge

With a 55 incher in one hand and 8 samsung galaxy tablets in the other, i had little room for any more christmas gadgets. I saw an ipod on the side on my way and managed to fit it in under my chin. Noticing the security guard was distracted i made my way for the exit, however I must have caught the side of his eye as he frantically gave chase. Taking hold of my shoulder litterally 6 feet from the doors he flipped me around to face him. I instinctively knew it was going to be this prick, the bald headed security guard who thought he was hard probably because he did a weekly martial arts session session or something. In fact he reminded my a lot of people on here all round Remembering how much i hated that ****, i channelled my anger with one singular powerful headbutt to the bridge of his nose, careful not to drop the ipod tucked under my chin, and dropping him in a oner. With bloody splattered over my face and clothes, the securty guard writhing on the floor in agony, the other shoppers continued their business distracted by the cheap toasters and bread makers that had just been dropped.

i made my way successfully through the exits to drop it all in the back of my car, closed the boot and drove home with a newcastle brown ale in one hand and a spliff in the other

the moral of the story is i now have 8 samsung galaxy tablets available in all colours, PM me with offers please NO TIMEWASTERS

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Re: Some quality posts you don't wanna miss

Postby Callum » Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:54 am

Big17 wrote:
Sims wrote:wheres the one where he went flying over tower bridge


I was literally just looking for that one...
Propa_Nutcase wrote:I had a mad night, went out with a couple of jam rolls, we hit the dog and duck for a few sharpeners. Then me and the fluff decided to go out for a drive.

One of the fluff pulls out some oats and starts cutting them up. I ended up doing one (shouldn't really as I was driving). Ended up going towards Tower Bridge and the bridge started to rise. One of the fluff dared me to jump it (thinking I wouldn't), I hit the accelerator , must of got about 40 ft of air, cleared the bridge and landed on the other side. I turn round and the fluff are in tears and covered in oats. :rofll:

Suspension on the motor is f***ked today though. Worth it though to see the look on those tart's faces.


Absolute tears.

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Re: Some quality posts you don't want to miss

Postby Arsenal Tone » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:22 am

EliteKiller wrote:Isn't the real issue that the truly big teams simply don't need to develop players straight into the first team - sure they have multi-million pound academies and training grounds - but these are designed as revenue generators just as much as player development - even when you do unearth a few great youngsters no way you put them into your EPL or CL starting eleven.

The route for even the best youngsters is now a loan or a transfer to a lesser league (which is all leagues compared to the EPL) and then once proven at a lower level then you start integration into the squad via cup games.

The exceptions to this rule are as rare as hen's teeth, and have been for a decade. As a manager why risk playing an unproven 19 year old when you can buy a proven 22 year old?

As for Arsene? His vision of 2020 football was entirely wrong, clubs do not have a stream of academy players filling the first elevens, contracts are not shorter and shorter in fact the exact opposite, players salaries have not become more equal again the exact opposite, and most players running down their contracts to leave on a free? - well only at Arsenal does that seemed to have happened.

Arsene was a great manager but he was a terrible seer - the problem was we fully bought into the nonsense that he was selling, and have we suffered for that.

Arteta has to take us back to behaving like all our major rivals, buy the best young proven talent, get rid of ageing players on short contracts, do not pay stupid money to players with zero future value ... and FFS get players with spines not made from jelly.


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Re: Some quality posts you don't want to miss

Postby Zenith » Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:21 pm

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It's a travesty.

Warren Buffet says that you don't invest in companies that you don't understand. That's why IT isn't really his forte.

I believe Stan Kroenke has committed that sin. He's an astute businessman. Yet, he has no idea how European football goes around. Look at Chelsea. They have a hands-on owner; they have the real deal in Marina as their DoF.

City hired Barca's football experts. We ended up getting a marketing guy from Barca.

United have had the same issues since SAF. It's simply that they have astronomical money to spend.

Kroenke didn't have to worry about Arsenal as long as Wenger was here. It's changed since. The power tussle between Gazidis and Wenger will have to go down as the single-most tragic event in modern Arsenal history. Gazidis, with the approval of Kroenke, not only won that, he also managed to destroy Arsenal in the process.

We were "underperforming," but we were a top-4 club, we were relevant even when Wenger didn't spend a penny on outfield players in the summer of 2015. After 15/16, presumably Gazidis and Josh got more hands on, and that's where the chaos began.

We offloaded the one genuine football guy we had post-Wenger. That's Mislintat. And now we have handed the keys to a man who was involved in corruption scandals in Brazil and a rookie manager who is his own boss. Our MD/CE is a chartered accountant.

This is seriously messed up.

In every field, billionaires surround themselves with top experts, I can't understand why, at Arsenal, that in itself is a problem.

The more I see Arsenal become a clown show, the more my resolve that Wenger was single-handedly saving this club strengthens.

I also think that we haven't sacked Mikel yet because we don't have a plan in place. We have a corrupt man, who was involved in money laundering with his pal, in charge of Arsenal's footballing affairs. That same man orchestrated a monopolized structure at by sacking our scouts and key employees, so that he becomes the focal point at Arsenal. We have a coach who undermines the history of this great club. We have owners who have failed to under English football.

It's a cocktail of disasters here.

Stanley thought it would be easy replacing Wenger. Nope. Gazidis slid past the backdoor the moment he had all the powers at Arsenal because he didn't have anyone to hide behind. Sanllehi is a fraud, a Nike guy, a marketing professional. Mislintat was let go because he was a genuine football guy.

Why wasn't Mislintat hired as our technical director over this fraud, Edu?

The manager absolutely needs to be sacked at Arsenal. It's imperative. But if the Kroenkes cannot manage Arsenal, they are better off selling Arsenal. They haven't got a clue. They refuse to bring in strong personalities because they want yes-men in charge.

No competent board would allow Arteta to continue his buffoonery here.

Arsenal have seen their won't start in 40 years. Arsenal are breaking all the negative records left, right, center. Yet, here we are, we have some fans defending this absolute demolition we're seeing of Arsenal's legacy and history.

The same lot wanted Wenger out because getting thrashed by Barca and Bayern was boring. The same lot are defending 15th place, no wins, no style, poor performances, lack of goals scored, no creativity—our worst showing in 40 years.

Get a grip.
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Re: Some quality posts you don't want to miss

Postby Arsenal Tone » Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:59 am

Phil71 wrote:On reflection it was madness.

"Good morning Mikel, take a seat."
"Thank you."
"So Mikel, tell us about your experience as a manager."
"I don't have any."
"You don't have any?"
"That's right - I don't have any. Never took charge of a single game"
"I see... so what qualifies you for the role?"
"I used to play for the club, and I'm currently working for Pep Guardiola. He reckons I'm good."
"OK... "
***interviewers talk amongst each other quietly**
"Mikel - how much money would you be looking for?"
"Tuppence ha'penny."
"Wonderful - when can you start?"


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Re: Some quality posts you don't want to miss

Postby LMAO » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:55 pm

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We’ve also not had such crybabies determining we’re relegated after 12 games either. Absolute state of some ‘’fans’’ on this forum is hilarious.

Maintained the same view, if we can get a world class proven manager (poch/Allegri fall into this bracket) then it would probably be worth replacing him. Otherwise I don’t see the point because we’ve now seen largely the same set of players down tools 3 times under 3 different managers, there’s only so long you can keep blaming just the manager and changing just that role.

I’ve also said he needs to learn from his mistakes and before he got on this power trip he seemed pretty capable of improving the team. He’s made ridiculous calls on Ozil, Willian and Saliba while being inconsistent in his ‘non-negotiables’ bullshit. Unlike you, I’m not hiding from the other side of the coin and pretending everything is perfect, I described the man as ‘fine’ which if a girl you liked described you as, you wouldn’t exactly be thrilled now would you?

So far he’s had some highs with the cup and wins over big clubs with a lot of lows this season in performances and results against almost anyone. He needs to learn from his mistakes, stop playing the overpaid shit players who keep not performing and he will be just fine. If we still don’t improve then again we have to look at another manager but not just any old ‘non-arteta’ shitbag like it was when wenger was being hounded out.

Not exactly that wild a suggestion yet people seem to be foaming at the mouth over it.
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Postby Arsenal Tone » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:23 pm

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Re: Some quality posts you don't want to miss

Postby Arsenal Tone » Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:47 am

Santi wrote:You lot are so small picture. Yes we’re under performing this season but we’re nowhere near good enough for top 4 right now anyway. What the board have decided is that they believe Arteta can get it right over time and with backing in the market, so far he’s had 1 proper window and we brought in two good players while using January to get rid of a lot of shit.

We all know this season is about the EL anyway and has been for 2 months (same as Wengers final season) so the league really doesn’t matter. Only disappointing thing is the half arsed squads...don’t mix and match them just play some kids and abandon ship so the big boys are fresh for the EL.

They will give him this summer unless there is some player revolt, they will give him money and he will kick off next season. Now if we’re not seeing a huge improvement and banging by October/November then he will be gone no doubt.

I know it’s not great and it’s annoying to have a written off season, we should be doing better regardless, but we need to massively improve the squad rather than spending all our money sacking managers year after year. I think we’ve been on the losing side of a lot of 50/50 calls this year, both from the officials and from within our own hands, and also dealt with a lot of shit like the Ozil saga, Auba’s new deal being a flop and Willian being a useless c***...the amount of chaos surely can’t be as bad or continue next year? If it does then it suggests there is a problem with Mikel himself but right now I think our main issue is the squad more than the manager and I’m hopeful next season will be much better.

I mean look at Sheffield United as an example, last year they were on the right side of every call, bounce and bit of luck and this season they’re on the opposite side and it’s killed them. Obviously not got the same club goals in the slightest as we have but the principle can still apply and hopefully we start turning our 1-0 losses into 1-0 wins next year.

And I will repeat, because some retards on here can’t seem to grasp it, I don’t give a flying f**k about Mikel. My entire reasoning since day 1 for ‘defending’ him is that I don’t think the squad is good enough in the slightest and I don’t think a revolving door of managers is a good approach. Yes we could have done better this season with someone else but It wouldn’t be top 4 and I doubt it’d last into next season, hence we might as well go with what we have and back our horse.


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Re: Some quality posts you don't want to miss

Postby Santi » Fri May 07, 2021 8:54 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:We'll see a big improvement next year - calling it now.


Another dodgey forecast?

................ so soon?

Are you sure.


It will be like my Auba contract position - correct.
Wait and see.


......... do you mean whether we "should of " offered the contract or the one where you thought RVP had scored more goals than Auba and was proved wrong by moi?

Choose your words carefully, they could be your last.


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The tone of this thinking he is the forum master and big bully :rofll:
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