Héctor Bellerín

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Sell everyone. Buy no one. Fcking brilliant.

[Angelito]

Sell Bellerin and do what?

Who will replace him? Or, will we suddenly start spending like Man City?

We need to segregate Bellerin the player, who isn't world class but was quite easily the most in-form player we had when he was injured. We need to separate that from the situation Arsenal finds itself at: as far as drawing power goes, we're at our weakest in the Prem era.

Bellerin isn't world class, but we're unlikely to get any player at his level.

We already need a winger, a CM, and a CB—in addition to what we have.

Priorities.

[Diablo]

Sell Bellerin and do what?

Who will replace him? Or, will we suddenly start spending like Man City?

We need to segregate Bellerin the player, who isn't world class but was quite easily the most in-form player we had when he was injured. We need to separate that from the situation Arsenal finds itself at: as far as drawing power goes, we're at our weakest in the Prem era.

Bellerin isn't world class, but we're unlikely to get any player at his level.

We already need a winger, a CM, and a CB—in addition to what we have.

Priorities.

Bellerin would stay preferably but he’s far from indispensable.

Guys like Atal, Pereira, Piccini or Tete could all realistically replace him.

[knowledge93]

Imagine if we went by what people on goonersworld say. We would have sold half our first 11 when we still need at least 4 first trainers meaning we would have to somehow have to find 11 players in one window. Absolute fantasy stuff.

[EliteKiller]

Bellerin was seen as so vital we gave him that massive 6/7 year deal ... he's contracted until 2023 ... so right now we own his arse. If we can get fantastically stupid money then OK - 60m not a bean less - if not then he stays. He wanted the security of a massive long contract, that deal works both ways ...

Why some of you think we can just pluck a better full-back than Bellerin out of the market, when we are struggling to fill the huge gaps we already have, makes no sense at all.

Let's fix what needs fixing before chucking out the few decent long contract players we already have ....

[PairyGrows]

Perhaps I'd be more open for shipping Bellerin out if we had the money to replace him. Right now, we don't seem to have money to sign players we need, let alone players we don't really need.

[Fenice]

Bellerin was seen as so vital we gave him that massive 6/7 year deal ... he's contracted until 2023 ... so right now we own his arse. If we can get fantastically stupid money then OK - 60m not a bean less - if not then he stays. He wanted the security of a massive long contract, that deal works both ways ...

Why some of you think we can just pluck a better full-back than Bellerin out of the market, when we are struggling to fill the huge gaps we already have, makes no sense at all.

Let's fix what needs fixing before chucking out the few decent long contract players we already have ....

This.

[Highbury Hillbilly]

Why are people assuming that Bellerin is going to come back the same player? And by 'same player', I mean someone whose speed and crossing papers over his utter lack of defensive intelligence.

Theo wasn't the same after his year-long injury layoff; losing that yard of pace badly exposed his other weaknesses. Danny Welbeck was similar; he relied on his stamina ("works hard") but couldn't ever properly control a ball. His compilation of accidental assists are a meme at this point, but it's only obvious because of his injuries. Both were players in their prime, age and experience-wise.

If we get a good offer, we should sell. Bring in a player who still has his limbs relatively intact, because the Arsenal medical team don't have a great track record in this area.

[Zedie]

Why are people assuming that Bellerin is going to come back the same player? And by 'same player', I mean someone whose speed and crossing papers over his utter lack of defensive intelligence.

Theo wasn't the same after his year-long injury layoff; losing that yard of pace badly exposed his other weaknesses. Danny Welbeck was similar; he relied on his stamina ("works hard") but couldn't ever properly control a ball. His compilation of accidental assists are a meme at this point, but it's only obvious because of his injuries. Both were players in their prime, age and experience-wise.

If we get a good offer, we should sell. Bring in a player who still has his limbs relatively intact, because the Arsenal medical team don't have a great track record in this area.

Why do you assume that he wont?

Come to think of it, who is going to spend 60m on a player who cant kick ball until October at the earliest and has the same risks in drop in physicality as we do with him?

Hes probably not going anywhere..

[Highbury Hillbilly]

^^ I'm assuming he won't because other than Ramsey, I can't think of a single player who recovered form after a serious injury.

If my list above looks light on examples, I'll throw in Ox as well. 2 years at Pool, mostly injured, after six years of intermittent fitness record with us. Most of us were shocked to get £35-40m for him when he left.

At Pool, he is in Daniel Sturridge territory now, where he'll get a run out every now and then but first XI football is long gone. Klopp/FSG are decisive and have already replaced him with Fabinho and Keita.

[EliteKiller]

Why are people assuming that Bellerin is going to come back the same player? And by 'same player', I mean someone whose speed and crossing papers over his utter lack of defensive intelligence.

Theo wasn't the same after his year-long injury layoff; losing that yard of pace badly exposed his other weaknesses. Danny Welbeck was similar; he relied on his stamina ("works hard") but couldn't ever properly control a ball. His compilation of accidental assists are a meme at this point, but it's only obvious because of his injuries. Both were players in their prime, age and experience-wise.

If we get a good offer, we should sell. Bring in a player who still has his limbs relatively intact, because the Arsenal medical team don't have a great track record in this area.

Why are they not? Lots of players suffer injuries and come back better and stronger ....

Kanu - open heart surgery 1996 - he turned out OK
Abidal - liver transplant
Cech - skull fracture
Nisteltooy - ruptured cruciate ligaments
Larsson - double leg break
Shearer - ruptured knee ligament
Ronaldo - separated knee ligaments

The list goes on and on .... just because a player gets injured doesn't mean he's finished ... only time will tell

[theHotHead]

Lol@finding it difficult to replace Bellerin, a player that cant beat a man, can't defend and can't cross!!

He is nothing but basic. Some people are going on like he was first season Lauren, Sagna or Toure at RB. He is f***ing pants.

[jayramfootball]

Lol@finding it difficult to replace Bellerin, a player that cant beat a man, can't defend and can't cross!!

He is nothing but basic. Some people are going on like he was first season Lauren, Sagna or Toure at RB. He is f***ing pants.

Whenever a player is injured they seem to get better in people's minds.
Bellerin, defensively, is a liability. He does do a decent job going forward to create chances, but he is so often out of position and asleep to danger.
He's exactly the kind of player that represents the weakness we display season in season out.

[EliteKiller]

Lol@finding it difficult to replace Bellerin, a player that cant beat a man, can't defend and can't cross!!

He is nothing but basic. Some people are going on like he was first season Lauren, Sagna or Toure at RB. He is f***ing pants.

So given that Bellerin's so shit what will we get for him 20m? Who are you going to buy for that who is any better?

[Angelito]

Lol@finding it difficult to replace Bellerin, a player that cant beat a man, can't defend and can't cross!!

He is nothing but basic. Some people are going on like he was first season Lauren, Sagna or Toure at RB. He is f***ing pants.

And, you think we actually have smart people running Arsenal who actively have the funds, strategy, and drawing power to sign a winger, a midfielder, and a center-back on top of resolving a non-essential problem with someone more competent?

We're not Spurs under Pochettino, sorry.

This team is finding it difficult to buy one winger; one winger whom we desperately need. We have no wingers. Having no wingers in the Prem is a crime. SAF made a career out of winning the league by hoarding 3-5 wingers and setting up ManU to play via the flanks. And, we have no wingers and we don't seem to be in any hurry to get one. This team is also finding it difficult to replace Ramsey or buy a competent CM. This team is finding it impossible to buy a proper CB.

The trio that is in-charge now—Vinai "I have no idea what offside is, but I'll take it" Venkatesham, Raul "Can't believe I'm de facto CEO at Arsenal. Let me pretend like I'm real busy" Sanllehi, and Unai "Work Hard, not Smart" Emery—fills you with confidence to get someone better than Bellerín, when we have bigger holes to plug that aren't being addressed in the first place?

I'll let you ponder.