north bank gooner wrote:I really hate it when ignoramuses who aren't from the capital make ill-informed judgements based on a few google searches. By the way, you still haven't said where you are making these comments from, if it's from outside the UK then (I assume when you said third world it didn't' mean Liverpool) it shows how powerful fake news is these days. Let me pull apart your argument bit by bit.
Born and bred Londoner retired to Spain in 2005 now living in the Far East .... not that it makes any difference
Firstly your stop and search graph is out of date, this year the number of stop and searches has increased nearly fivefold in the capital.
For fucks sake that's the whole point of giving you the MET quote ...
it shows post graph data revealing that the reintroducing of stop and search in targeted areas has seen gun and knife crime drop by 20-30% ....
Secondly, as you don't seem to grasp the concept of Local Government versus Central Government I will explain it to you. In lay man's terms Central Government dictates budgets, Local Government dictate policy especially in things like policing. So if the budgets have been slashed as a result of austerity, as they were in 2010 is it not natural that with less police on the streets that stop and search numbers will also fall? To me, there is a clear concise connection between the financial crash of 2007, the start of austerity, reduced police numbers and reduced stop and search. Before 2017, knife crime surprisingly had in fact fallen for a few years.
The government are now bringing austerity to an end and Boris Johnson just yesterday announced funding for another 20,000 police.
If you wan't to point the finger at anyone, look at our current Prime Minister, he was London Mayor over a period where stop and search figures declined. Just pointing the finger at Sadiq Khan as muppets like Donald Trump always seem to do is wrong. More importantly, there is no proof that stop and search actually does reduce violent crime, it even says so in that report you googled.
So you don't agree with The National Chief Constables Council who unanimously signed a letter to the HS requesting the full reintroduction of the effective stop and search policy prior to the 2011 changes ... well I guess you must know better than them
I live 3 miles from Tottenham, one of the biggest shitholes in London. Yet I think I will be safe walking out of my front door to the local shops for a few beers and some milk! People have misconceptions about London without actually even visiting/living here. There are millions of law abiding citizens here that work hard and play hard. It is also the economic powerhouse of the country. Without the taxes from London, the rest of the country is f***ked. That is fact.
I lived in London during the glory days of the Krays, Pecham Boys, Mandem and never once felt unsafe ... those gangs would slice each other up in a heartbeat, but never women, not school kids, and not police. Today's tossers would attack a granny or a girl-scout for a fiver ... we had drugs plenty off them but not like now. The real difference was respect: for police, for women, for the elderly, where did that go?
London is the greatest city in the World (well maybe Tokyo) and it deserves to have a great empowered police force, not one forced to work with one hand tied behind it's back by political dreamers and elitist fantasists ...