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Re: Mohamed Elneny (25)

Postby FARM » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:14 pm

Awful player, much worse than any league 2 player.
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (25)

Postby EliteKiller » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:20 pm

So many weaknesses in his game, he's 28 not 19 yet his positional sense, his awareness of opposition players, his ability to spot a pass all of these basic skills are sadly lacking ... at his age he won't get any better. No wonder Besiktas didn't want to take up their option to buy, he's not even at their level.
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (25)

Postby Zenith » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:35 pm

EliteKiller wrote:So many weaknesses in his game, he's 28 not 19 yet his positional sense, his awareness of opposition players, his ability to spot a pass all of these basic skills are sadly lacking ... at his age he won't get any better. No wonder Besiktas didn't want to take up their option to buy, he's not even at their level.

Why are you making stuff up? :dontknow:

Beşiktaş were delighted with his performances and fans were gutted when the club indicated they couldn't afford him.

Besiktas manager Sergen Yalcin has explained how the financial situation at the club has cost them the opportunity to sign Mohamed Elneny permanently from Arsenal.

The 28-year-old teamed up with the Black Eagles on a season-long loan from the Gunners last summer with the Turkish Super Lig side having an option to sign the midfielder permanently.

The Egypt international delivered convincing performances during his temporary stay at Vodafone Park, featuring in 27 league games to help them finish third in the table.
Yalcin admitted the quality of the midfielder but revealed the club’s financial struggles forced them not to sign him.

“Elneny was the player we wished that he wouldn’t go, but his cost was too high,” Yalçın said in a press conference.

“He played in the starting line-up in the Arsenal vs Liverpool match. He has a high cost but is a quality football player. For us Besiktas, we have to adjust our budget and balance the budget given by TFF.”


And no their financial situation wasn't used as a pretext. In fact, it's so bad they were unable to pay his loan fee and his salary remained unpaid for months.

Additionally, Beşiktaş's poor financial state is directly reflected in their transfer expenditures last summer: €850k.

And no, I'm not trying to make a case for Elneny.
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (25)

Postby EliteKiller » Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:00 am

Zenith wrote:
EliteKiller wrote:So many weaknesses in his game, he's 28 not 19 yet his positional sense, his awareness of opposition players, his ability to spot a pass all of these basic skills are sadly lacking ... at his age he won't get any better. No wonder Besiktas didn't want to take up their option to buy, he's not even at their level.

Why are you making stuff up? :dontknow:

Beşiktaş were delighted with his performances and fans were gutted when the club indicated they couldn't afford him.

Besiktas manager Sergen Yalcin has explained how the financial situation at the club has cost them the opportunity to sign Mohamed Elneny permanently from Arsenal.

The 28-year-old teamed up with the Black Eagles on a season-long loan from the Gunners last summer with the Turkish Super Lig side having an option to sign the midfielder permanently.

The Egypt international delivered convincing performances during his temporary stay at Vodafone Park, featuring in 27 league games to help them finish third in the table.
Yalcin admitted the quality of the midfielder but revealed the club’s financial struggles forced them not to sign him.

“Elneny was the player we wished that he wouldn’t go, but his cost was too high,” Yalçın said in a press conference.

“He played in the starting line-up in the Arsenal vs Liverpool match. He has a high cost but is a quality football player. For us Besiktas, we have to adjust our budget and balance the budget given by TFF.”


And no their financial situation wasn't used as a pretext. In fact, it's so bad they were unable to pay his loan fee and his salary remained unpaid for months.

Additionally, Beşiktaş's poor financial state is directly reflected in their transfer expenditures last summer: €850k.

And no, I'm not trying to make a case for Elneny.


But you are .... if Elneny was good enough Besiktas would have found the money ... just as we found the money for Partey. The bottom lines is that they didn't, that's the problem with have third tier players on first tier salaries, players who put their wages over playing football, nobody else is stupid enough to take that cost on.

Not just Elneny who is only 2.6m a year - but also Ozil, Auba, Willian, Bellerin, Liiz, Kola, Xhaka, Sokratis, Mustafi, Soares .... all massively overpaid players happy to run down their contracts playing football or sitting at home playing on the internet ... utter madness
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (25)

Postby swipe right » Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:11 am

Nice guy but has never been premier league level.
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (25)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:20 am

Rayyo wrote:we've gone back to hating on him whereas prior to his red card we were talking about building the team around him + partey.

completely sums our fan base up.


No one is immune. Just take a look at the PEA thread, and you'd think they were talking about Yaya Sanogo.
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (25)

Postby DiamondGooner » Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:37 am

Rayyo wrote:we've gone back to hating on him whereas prior to his red card we were talking about building the team around him + partey.

completely sums our fan base up.


I haven't.

He's a decent DM but he's limited going forward which isn't a DM's speciality anyway.

Saying that Ceballos final ball has been attrocious even more.

Elneny's role is to break up play and screen the defense, at doing that he's decent, more in the mould of Song and Flamini.
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (25)

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Re: Mohamed Elneny (25)

Postby Arsenal Tone » Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:04 am

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Re: Mohamed Elneny (25)

Postby alexafc12 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 6:47 pm

What on earth. Came back and looked revitalised. Always looking forwards.

Now he looks like he's been told every time he passes the ball forwards he will be fined £10k.
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (25)

Postby Ach » Tue Dec 29, 2020 6:49 pm

Emery tried to get rid as he was awful

Arteta has him starting.
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (25)

Postby Dejan » Tue Dec 29, 2020 6:50 pm

alexafc12 wrote:What on earth. Came back and looked revitalised. Always looking forwards.

Now he looks like he's been told every time he passes the ball forwards he will be fined £10k.
He has been a very average player his entire carreer. 2 matches isnt going to change that.

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Re: Mohamed Elneny (25)

Postby alexafc12 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 6:54 pm

Dejan wrote:
alexafc12 wrote:What on earth. Came back and looked revitalised. Always looking forwards.

Now he looks like he's been told every time he passes the ball forwards he will be fined £10k.
He has been a very average player his entire carreer. 2 matches isnt going to change that.

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He's an average player but can do a job. He's pretty tidy on the ball and does the basics well.

The issue is his game has changed since he came back into the team. Every chance he will play backwards. Too safe.
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (25)

Postby Dejan » Tue Dec 29, 2020 6:56 pm

Average shouldnt be good enough to start for arsenal

Must be replaced asap.

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Re: Mohamed Elneny (25)

Postby Jedi » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:00 pm

Dejan wrote:Average shouldnt be good enough to start for arsenal

Must be replaced asap.

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But you also said Xhaka shouldn't be starting for Arsenal. So your starting CMs would be Ceballos and Willock? What happens when they're even worse? You're running out of players.
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