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Re: Mohamed Elneny (35)

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:36 pm

Interest: waning wrote:Coquelin is underrated technically; he has a good first touch and is a good dribbler.

Where he is found wanting is in his positioning off the ball when we are trying to attack.

Coq when deployed as a DM is immense, there aren't many better than him in that role.


Key word being DM. It's either Wenger instructs him to play as a b2b midfielder or Coquelin himself believes that is what he is. If Coquelin can just sit in front of the defense then he can be extremely useful this season
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (35)

Postby ALLCAPS_ » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:39 pm

I tend to agree Coq isn't the carthorse people make him out to be. Him next to Santi is still our most balanced midfield and that says a lot about how awful our business has been since 2014/15 season.
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (35)

Postby Gunpowder » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:57 pm

Drop the 3rd CB and start him in 4-3-3
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (35)

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:58 pm

He was good today, was shaky at the start, but really grew into the game with his passing
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (35)

Postby Santi » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:00 am

unreal beast game from him


tireless player, gives everything he has every time he plays :hail:
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (35)

Postby Angelito » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:47 am

Mesüt wrote:unreal beast game from him


tireless player, gives everything he has every time he plays :hail:


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Unsung hero truly and our most complete CM.

He needs to start against Chelsea. Xhaka-Ramsey will be an abomination.
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (35)

Postby Nuggets » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:12 am

GoonerAlexis wrote:He was good today, was shaky at the start, but really grew into the game with his passing

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Re: Mohamed Elneny (35)

Postby CaptGooner » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:56 am

Angelito wrote:
Mesüt wrote:unreal beast game from him


tireless player, gives everything he has every time he plays :hail:


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Unsung hero truly and our most complete CM.

He needs to start against Chelsea. Xhaka-Ramsey will be an abomination.
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (35)

Postby theHotHead » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:57 am

Interest: waning wrote:Coquelin is underrated technically; he has a good first touch and is a good dribbler.

Where he is found wanting is in his positioning off the ball when we are trying to attack.

Coq when deployed as a DM is immense, there aren't many better than him in that role.

I agree with the first 2 lines - I don't agree with the last line.

Coq is good on the ball and is a good dribbler like you say. But his decision making when playing as a DM can be and is often woeful - probably because his natural instinct is to go forward.

I agree, Elneny was very good last night, but he simply doesn't have the quality at the highest level. Looking at our options in that role:
Xhaka - terrible defensively, great range of passing, great shooting.
Elneny - basic range of passing, good defensively, good decision making
Coq - good dribbler, bad decision making, yellow card always a tackle away.

I would vote for Elneny to have the role.
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (35)

Postby gooney » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:13 pm

Im sorry but this is like holding where fans had an eatly impression and cant see whats going on. This guy is better than xhaka. Far more complete midfielder. We are so used to wengers flawed one dimensional midfielders we cant appreciate an all rounder. Ramsey can attack but has no defensive game and discipline. Can you see him do what el nenny did twice saving bellerin and from us potentialy conceding?

Xhaka doesnt have anywhere near the engine and workrate he has. So all xhaka has is when he has time and space the ability to hit a good long ball. But defensivelly he cant defend anywhere near asg ood as this guy.
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (35)

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:18 pm

gooney wrote:Im sorry but this is like holding where fans had an eatly impression and cant see whats going on. This guy is better than xhaka. Far more complete midfielder. We are so used to wengers flawed one dimensional midfielders we cant appreciate an all rounder. Ramsey can attack but has no defensive game and discipline. Can you see him do what el nenny did twice saving bellerin and from us potentialy conceding?

Xhaka doesnt have anywhere near the engine and workrate he has. So all xhaka has is when he has time and space the ability to hit a good long ball. But defensivelly he cant defend anywhere near asg ood as this guy.

Saved Holding twice too

Four total saves, two with Bellerin where he ran back, and two with Holding where if the guy had gotten past Elneny, there was only the great pace of Mertesacker to stop him.

Very intelligent player. Blamed for his back passes, when he has zero options to pass. Times he went long, Walcott was, as usual, offside
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (35)

Postby gooney » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:32 pm

GoonerAlexis wrote:
gooney wrote:Im sorry but this is like holding where fans had an eatly impression and cant see whats going on. This guy is better than xhaka. Far more complete midfielder. We are so used to wengers flawed one dimensional midfielders we cant appreciate an all rounder. Ramsey can attack but has no defensive game and discipline. Can you see him do what el nenny did twice saving bellerin and from us potentialy conceding?

Xhaka doesnt have anywhere near the engine and workrate he has. So all xhaka has is when he has time and space the ability to hit a good long ball. But defensivelly he cant defend anywhere near asg ood as this guy.

Saved Holding twice too

Four total saves, two with Bellerin where he ran back, and two with Holding where if the guy had gotten past Elneny, there was only the great pace of Mertesacker to stop him.

Very intelligent player. Blamed for his back passes, when he has zero options to pass. Times he went long, Walcott was, as usual, offside

Exactly...its those things a central midfielder is supposed to do. You would think ramsey get 20+ goals a season that makes him excused from doing this. Xhaka cant do this. If you look at xhaka. He plays his football in very small area of the pitch. El nenny is everywhere
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (35)

Postby OptimusPrimett » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:35 pm

Sims wrote:
Interest: waning wrote:Coquelin is underrated technically; he has a good first touch and is a good dribbler.

Where he is found wanting is in his positioning off the ball when we are trying to attack.

Coq when deployed as a DM is immense, there aren't many better than him in that role.


what have i just read

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Re: Mohamed Elneny (35)

Postby ArkGunner » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:36 pm

I thought he had a great game, he looks much quicker than xhaka. Work rate is excellent. Showed some good forward passing in the second half.
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Re: Mohamed Elneny (35)

Postby Marsbar100 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:07 pm

I like the guy a lot, just think he is a bit safe,if he could be a bit more adventurous he would walk into the team
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