Super Jacky Wilshere

[KG3]

If he was like Rosicky/Diaby in the sense that he's quality when fit then he'd be somewhat worth holding onto but in jacks case he's more like Cleverly at best when fit.

[gooney]

If he was like Rosicky/Diaby in the sense that he's quality when fit then he'd be somewhat worth holding onto but in jacks case he's more like Cleverly at best when fit.

I have been getting so much stick for sayinh both him and ramsey wasnt as talented as diaby

[Marsbar100]

If he was like Rosicky/Diaby in the sense that he's quality when fit then he'd be somewhat worth holding onto but in jacks case he's more like Cleverly at best when fit.

I have been getting so much stick for sayinh both him and ramsey wasnt as talented as diaby

Ramsey was beast pre injury far more technical than diaby in terms of passing and first touch

[Cripps]

Lol Diaby was toilet even when fit

Horror player who couldn't pass or run

The original Arsenal player who was overated cos of injury

[ALLCAPS_]

Liverpool away tho

[coach8smallball]

The fact people are desperate for us to keep a player who can't even lock down a spot at Bournemouth says it all.

The levels have completely dropped.

yes it has. these are the same people that defended arteta/flamini way after their legs were gone. just think we held on to those two when there were plenty of replacements to be had. but our shambolic manager chose to resign the old farts.

[Arsene Nose]

The fact people are desperate for us to keep a player who can't even lock down a spot at Bournemouth says it all.

The levels have completely dropped.

yes it has. these are the same people that defended arteta/flamini way after their legs were gone. just think we held on to those two when there were plenty of replacements to be had. but our shambolic manager chose to resign the old farts.

nope. same people who defended rosicky despite his repeated injuries.

[Arsenal Tone]

Genuine question - how old was RVP when he had his first injury free season?

[starmandb]

Genuine question - how old was RVP when he had his first injury free season?

28

[EliteKiller]

Genuine question - how old was RVP when he had his first injury free season?

In 8 seasons RVP managed 277 games .... Wilshere in 8 season for us has managed 159 ...

FYI - To even try and compare RVP with Jack is frankly laughable ......

[theHotHead]

I beg to differ. It's about time we also value physical toughness when we build a squad. How can you have anything good going, any sort of consistency, when you keep having players out injured? Walcott gets injured, comes back, oh, now it's Ramsey. He comes back, oh, now it's Santi. He comes back (or not), oh, now it's Wilshere. He comes back (or not, probably not), now it's OX. And so on. What did the team gain by sticking with Diaby? Admiration from Diaby's family and a few fans that value loyalty and kindness over results? I'm still reading fans here hoping to build the squad around Santi. The team is obviously much better with him but it's quite clear that he's breaking down. That has to change, and starting next season, not after Wenger leave (if he ever leaves)

You forgot to mention rvp...biggest crock during his day... but that doesn't fit your narrative.

Because he showed world class ability when he was fit to play. Wilshere has not.

[theHotHead]

Arsenal's new tag line: Stronger Together*

* Unless you get injured in which case fck off and stop wasting our money.

Elite level football is ruthless.

I'd like to be part of something bigger. I signed up to be part of a community, an ethos, a value system. Else I'd rather follow Chelsea.

Likewise but we also pay crazy sums to watch these people play football. I want value for my money, Wilshere does not provide any value at all.

[theHotHead]

Arsene Nose the type of nigga to stay with his wife after she cheated on him 13 times just because of the 'sanctity of marriage'

Loooool.

He is taking too many beatings, not sure what why he comes back for more. If he is playing Devil's Advocate he is playing it as badly as Arsenal play football!

[theHotHead]

Then explain this...
http://www.managerstats.co.uk/clubs/arsenal/

Set of joke stats that claim 15 major trophies when everyone accepts that the recognised number is 9 .... only two teams enter the Charity/Community shield but you add those 6 if you want .... it just makes you look a fool ....

How about looking at European Trophies, where clubs and managers are pitted against the very best .....

Bertie Mee - Yup he won one trophy in just 3 attempts ....
George Graeme - Yup he won one and lost in a final in just 3 attempts ....
Arsene Wonger - 22 feckin' attempts and he's only reached the last four twice .....

If Wonger is your idea of success, then I guess lots of first dates but no sex is your idea of a good time .... me I prefer to win, but hey whatever makes you happy ......

Look at the win percent you moron. Wenger outclasses every other manager we've had. When you say graham and Mee prioritized winning and Wenger doesn't, and yet he has a higher win percent your claim falls dead.

Lol@ win percentage!!

Allardyce has the best win percentage as England manager. So bloody what?!

[theHotHead]

sorry I peeked when I should've signed in.....

arsene nose you are a complete and utter moron. winning percentage? that's your argument for w***er? you've been roasted and don't even know it. grow up!

trophies are what matter! I'd rather go thru ups and downs (like Chelsea) and win trophies. any fan (except for dimwitted ones like yourself) wants trophies. go be a buffalo bills fan back in the 90's.....that's just up your ally. 4 straight SB's and no trophies, but at least they got there and gave it the good ole college try.

what a numpty!

Chelsea doesnt win trophies because of its managers, it wins trophies despite its managers. It has an owner who has put in close to a billion pounds in ten years to make that happen. Roberto Di Mateo won the CL with Chelsea and Avram Grant was one JT slip away from it. When you get an owner who is willing to put that kind of money into Arsenal give me a call.
And sunshine, save your personal insults for someone else. They just bounce of me. Cheerios.

Count how much Arsenal spent under Wenger chasing the same dream!! Until we win thst prize we cannot be considered in the same level as the European heavyweights in the game