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Re: Reputation of Arsenal Football Club

Postby Pudpop » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:58 pm

Sims wrote:Torres £50m


Ahh forgot about him
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Re: Reputation of Arsenal Football Club

Postby starmandb » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:23 pm

Pudpop wrote:
starmandb wrote:
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Sims wrote:Have we ever actually signed the World's best? Only 3 players with that reputation that have are probably Bergkamp, Alexis and Özil, two of which came after we haven't won a trophy in 10 years


Didn't we break the English transfer record for Seaman? Starman?

We moved to the Emirates, so that the world's best would want to come to Arsenal. When Wenger first started, he used to sign the likes of Vieira, Overmars, Petit, Anelka, Henry, Ljungberg, Pires, Campbell, Wiltord, Kanu, and Gilberto. Those are world class players.

Today, neither can we sign young prodigies (van Persie/Cesc), nor attract the same amount of players we used to pre-Emirates.

The whole point of the Emirates move was to propel us to an elite territory in Europe, as we were already an elite club in England. The arrival of Chelsea and City might act as a roadblock as the value of money changed. That doesn't justify how we've gone from becoming the home of world class players and young prodigies to a place where mid-table players come to earn a secure earning--sprinkled by a few top-class players helping carry them.

When food isn't adequately cooked, no amount of garnishing can make it a pleasant delicacy.

Seaman was a British transfer record for a goalkeeper at 1.3 million
But the record at the time was waddle Spurs to Marseille 4& qtr mill
The last time we broke the British transfer record was 1995 bergkamp 7& half mill
Prior to that
1971 Alan ball 220'000
1938 bryn jones 14'500
1928 David jack 10'890


How far was Ozil's fee from being the English record? Couldn't had been that far off considering Sterling, Stones, Di Maria and Pogba hadn't happened yet

Incoming it was the 50 mill Chelsea paid Liverpool
But overal involving a British club it was bale Spurs to real madrid
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Re: Reputation of Arsenal Football Club

Postby theHotHead » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:28 am

The only 2 I can think of are Ravenelli to Middlesborough - although I can't remember if that was a high transfer fee or just high wages - think he was on £42K per week - which at the time was absolutely insane !!! He was the hottest striker in Italy at the time. then of course Juninho was one of the hottest Brazilians at the time. Can't remember fees paid though.

To be honest the Premier League has only been attractive since the penultimate TV deal , even when the Premier League started the Spanish and Italian leagues were miles ahead for salary and prestige.
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Re: Reputation of Arsenal Football Club

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Fri May 05, 2017 3:10 pm



Sums up how instrumental a player like Rosicky is to our style of play and how poor we are at converting chances. Someone needs to show Wenger clips like these because he seems to be oblivious to where the team's problems lie and seems to have forgotten a big part of what made him famous.
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Re: Reputation of Arsenal Football Club

Postby Angelito » Fri May 05, 2017 6:32 pm

Going from Rosicky, Cesc, Hleb, Arshavin, Nasri, et al to Ramsey, Coquelin, Xhaka, Theo, Chamberlain... My days.
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Re: Reputation of Arsenal Football Club

Postby Denis_E » Fri May 05, 2017 9:35 pm

Angelito wrote:Going from Rosicky, Cesc, Hleb, Arshavin, Nasri, et al to Ramsey, Coquelin, Xhaka, Theo, Chamberlain... My days.


Lol remember how furious people were with the first lot on that list for leaving, calling them judas etc

In hindsight what sane person with stick around if they had some insight into the 'grand' plans wenger had for this club
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Re: Reputation of Arsenal Football Club

Postby UFGN » Fri May 05, 2017 9:48 pm

Right

Hleb was meh

There you go, I've wanted to get that off my chest for years
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Re: Reputation of Arsenal Football Club

Postby Sims » Fri May 05, 2017 11:38 pm

How f***ing dare u
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Re: Reputation of Arsenal Football Club

Postby Cripps » Fri May 05, 2017 11:41 pm

No end product. He'd take the ball from A to B brilliantly and then nothing. The original Adama Traore he was called

Great in Pro Evo though

My star player during his time here. Shame he left.
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Re: Reputation of Arsenal Football Club

Postby theHotHead » Sat May 06, 2017 8:03 am

Cripps LOOOOL True !!

BUT - what Hleb did do was keep the ball brilliantly and get lots of free kicks high up the pitch which kind of made up for his lack of end product ... sort of.
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Reputation of Arsenal Football Club

Postby Arsenal Tone » Sat May 06, 2017 8:08 am

UFGN wrote:Right

Hleb was meh

There you go, I've wanted to get that off my chest for years


Made my feelings about hleb known countless times on here. Completely ruined my first ever trip to the emirates stadium! Open goal but opted to pass sideways and game ended a draw.

By end of the game the whole crowd sighed every time he got the ball.
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Re: Reputation of Arsenal Football Club

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Sat May 06, 2017 9:07 am

The Hleb-Fabregas-Rosicky trident gave us the best football this country has ever seen.

He was more frigid than Ozil in front goal though.
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Reputation of Arsenal Football Club

Postby Arsenal Tone » Sat May 06, 2017 9:15 am

Va-Va-Voom wrote:The Hleb-Fabregas-Rosicky trident gave us the best football this country has ever seen.


Did you not see the invincibles or our 98 title winning side? There are a couple of Utd sides who were better too!

Keeping possession on the half way line is NOT 'entertaining' or 'good football' and certainly not 'the best' football! I'd say our 97/98 team was the most entertaining I've ever seen, it had everything!
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Re: Reputation of Arsenal Football Club

Postby Sims » Sat May 06, 2017 9:18 am

Wengerballs peak was 07/08, I'd argue that the quality of football on display there was more fluid and better to watch than any of our title winning sides

Just didn't get the trophies it probably deserved
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Re: Reputation of Arsenal Football Club

Postby Arsenal Tone » Sat May 06, 2017 9:23 am

Sims wrote:Wengerballs peak was 07/08, I'd argue that the quality of football on display there was more fluid and better to watch than any of our title winning sides

Just didn't get the trophies it probably deserved


It was all about possession, most of it being on the half way line. The team was full of small, technical players and lacked bottle. I found it so frustrating to watch us get the ball on the edge of the box and then pass it sideways or backwards only to go from an attacking position to the ball ending back with a defender on the edge of our own box and start again. Even worse was the few times that teams properly pressed us and it'd get passed backwards only for us to lose possession and go from a promising attack to conceding in a matter of seconds.

Our 90/91 side was more entertaining to watch imo.
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