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theHotHead wrote:

VCC wrote:

VCC wrote:Lol how the Ozalists will grasp at any thread at all to keep face

And before you jump on what I have written ponder this,
What is the difference between the defenders when Adam's played behind Bergkamp, and the defenders playing behind Ozil.

Well there are a few points I will make.

Firstly the defenders were better during Bergkamp's era, that should be obviously clear to everyone. In the midfield we played 4-4-2, personnel were Petit, Vieira, Ljungberg, Gilberto and possibly Flamini (can't remember when he joined). That set of midfielders profided infinitely more and better defensive cover than the half players Ozil has been surrounded by during his time at Arsenal. Look at who Ozil had behind him, Rosicky, Arteta, Wilshere, Ramsey, Cazorla, shit Flamini, Coquelin, xhaka, Elneny !

Be interested to know what answer you wwere fishing for and what response you are preparing to give.

That team with Cesc, RVP, Ade, Nasri, Rosicky, Hleb, Diaby would have given the Invincibles a spanking had they reached their peak together.

theHotHead wrote:

VCC wrote:

VCC wrote:Lol how the Ozalists will grasp at any thread at all to keep face

And before you jump on what I have written ponder this,
What is the difference between the defenders when Adam's played behind Bergkamp, and the defenders playing behind Ozil.

Well there are a few points I will make.

Firstly the defenders were better during Bergkamp's era, that should be obviously clear to everyone. In the midfield we played 4-4-2, personnel were Petit, Vieira, Ljungberg, Gilberto and possibly Flamini (can't remember when he joined). That set of midfielders profided infinitely more and better defensive cover than the half players Ozil has been surrounded by during his time at Arsenal. Look at who Ozil had behind him, Rosicky, Arteta, Wilshere, Ramsey, Cazorla, shit Flamini, Coquelin, xhaka, Elneny !

Be interested to know what answer you wwere fishing for and what response you are preparing to give.

George Graham enters the ring.
“It’s very difficult. The first thing you say is, ‘who is the person who sorted the contract?" the former Gunners boss told talkSPORT.

“Did the rest of the board see that contract and agree to it? That was a bad decision. We’ve got to try and get rid of him and pay half his wages if he goes to another club, but even then it’s too expensive."

Graham added on Ozil being the wrong fit for Arteta's set-up: “He’s got to be in a team that’s dominating games and he’s got to be on the ball as much as possible.

“Without the ball, just no. He is definitely lacking, not even at the top level. Without the ball he’s not good enough. With the ball he can be good enough, but he has to be in a good team.

“He was up and down like a yo-yo under Arsene Wenger. He obviously isn’t playing into the new manager’s style. You play when you’ve got the ball but you also play when you haven’t got possession. He’s just not up to the standard that Arteta wants.”

Power n Glory wrote:https://www.goal.com/en-kw/amp/news/ozil-contract-arsenal-sell-midfielder-graham/18yphk48m9ykf1e4lrovbot3m0

George Graham enters the ring.
“Without the ball, just no. He is definitely lacking, not even at the top level. Without the ball he’s not good enough. With the ball he can be good enough, but he has to be in a good team.

“He was up and down like a yo-yo under Arsene Wenger. He obviously isn’t playing into the new manager’s style. You play when you’ve got the ball but you also play when you haven’t got possession. He’s just not up to the standard that Arteta wants.”

Power n Glory wrote:https://www.goal.com/en-kw/amp/news/ozil-contract-arsenal-sell-midfielder-graham/18yphk48m9ykf1e4lrovbot3m0

George Graham enters the ring.
“It’s very difficult. The first thing you say is, ‘who is the person who sorted the contract?" the former Gunners boss told talkSPORT.

“Did the rest of the board see that contract and agree to it? That was a bad decision. We’ve got to try and get rid of him and pay half his wages if he goes to another club, but even then it’s too expensive."

Graham added on Ozil being the wrong fit for Arteta's set-up: “He’s got to be in a team that’s dominating games and he’s got to be on the ball as much as possible.

“Without the ball, just no. He is definitely lacking, not even at the top level. Without the ball he’s not good enough. With the ball he can be good enough, but he has to be in a good team.

“He was up and down like a yo-yo under Arsene Wenger. He obviously isn’t playing into the new manager’s style. You play when you’ve got the ball but you also play when you haven’t got possession. He’s just not up to the standard that Arteta wants.”

Power n Glory wrote:https://www.goal.com/en-kw/amp/news/ozil-contract-arsenal-sell-midfielder-graham/18yphk48m9ykf1e4lrovbot3m0

George Graham enters the ring.
“It’s very difficult. The first thing you say is, ‘who is the person who sorted the contract?" the former Gunners boss told talkSPORT.

“Did the rest of the board see that contract and agree to it? That was a bad decision. We’ve got to try and get rid of him and pay half his wages if he goes to another club, but even then it’s too expensive."

Graham added on Ozil being the wrong fit for Arteta's set-up: “He’s got to be in a team that’s dominating games and he’s got to be on the ball as much as possible.

“Without the ball, just no. He is definitely lacking, not even at the top level. Without the ball he’s not good enough. With the ball he can be good enough, but he has to be in a good team.

“He was up and down like a yo-yo under Arsene Wenger. He obviously isn’t playing into the new manager’s style. You play when you’ve got the ball but you also play when you haven’t got possession. He’s just not up to the standard that Arteta wants.”

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VCC wrote:

theHotHead wrote:

VCC wrote:

VCC wrote:Lol how the Ozalists will grasp at any thread at all to keep face

And before you jump on what I have written ponder this,
What is the difference between the defenders when Adam's played behind Bergkamp, and the defenders playing behind Ozil.

Well there are a few points I will make.

Firstly the defenders were better during Bergkamp's era, that should be obviously clear to everyone. In the midfield we played 4-4-2, personnel were Petit, Vieira, Ljungberg, Gilberto and possibly Flamini (can't remember when he joined). That set of midfielders profided infinitely more and better defensive cover than the half players Ozil has been surrounded by during his time at Arsenal. Look at who Ozil had behind him, Rosicky, Arteta, Wilshere, Ramsey, Cazorla, shit Flamini, Coquelin, xhaka, Elneny !

Be interested to know what answer you wwere fishing for and what response you are preparing to give.

Exactly
So with a shit defence behind him and a crap midfeild around him
What difference is Ozil going to make, dont awnser there is no need.

EliteKiller wrote:How to make yourself so unpopular no manager will want you anywhere near them - it will become know as "doing an Ozil"

theHotHead wrote:

EliteKiller wrote:How to make yourself so unpopular no manager will want you anywhere near them - it will become know as "doing an Ozil"

Thing is .. he is right though, he has been right all along with everything he has said. He has no intention of playing for Low again, hje probably won't play for Arsenal again - especially with Arteta cutting off his nose to spite his face. I don't think anyone else would have a problem employing Ozil, if Balotelli can walk into club after club, leaving a trail of destruction behind him by acting like a donkey, Ozil will have no probs going elsewhere.