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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Power n Glory » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:39 am

KG3 wrote:
swipe right wrote:Fabregas comes in at half time with Monaco trailing PSG 0-2. Gets a goal and an assist and ends the game 3-2. His legs are gone, he’s over the hill. But his experience and quality puts PSG to the sword. Why can’t we use Ozil this way?
https://youtu.be/HYbk77LVTOo


Because Fabregas is a superior player to Ozil and always had been, Fabregas was all action type wasn’t afraid to get stuck in, could pick a pass out from deep, runs into the box, scores and assists.

Ozil on the other hand is a limited player afraid to put a foot in, afraid to shoot, can’t dictate a game from a deep area like Fabregas. Ozil will hang around up top waiting for a counter attack and provide the assist that’s about it.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Ach » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:46 am

KG3 wrote:
swipe right wrote:Fabregas comes in at half time with Monaco trailing PSG 0-2. Gets a goal and an assist and ends the game 3-2. His legs are gone, he’s over the hill. But his experience and quality puts PSG to the sword. Why can’t we use Ozil this way?
https://youtu.be/HYbk77LVTOo


Because Fabregas is a superior player to Ozil and always had been, Fabregas was all action type wasn’t afraid to get stuck in, could pick a pass out from deep, runs into the box, scores and assists.

Ozil on the other hand is a limited player afraid to put a foot in, afraid to shoot, can’t dictate a game from a deep area like Fabregas. Ozil will hang around up top waiting for a counter attack and provide the assist that’s about it.

Lol not sure if serious
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby starmandb » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:18 am

Özil was superb when we were 2-0 down at Ludogorets in 16/17
Provided an assist for Xhaka and scored the winner. Lobbing the keeper and making two defenders have to pay to get back in again before finishing
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby EliteKiller » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:38 am

Ach wrote:
KG3 wrote:
swipe right wrote:Fabregas comes in at half time with Monaco trailing PSG 0-2. Gets a goal and an assist and ends the game 3-2. His legs are gone, he’s over the hill. But his experience and quality puts PSG to the sword. Why can’t we use Ozil this way?
https://youtu.be/HYbk77LVTOo


Because Fabregas is a superior player to Ozil and always had been, Fabregas was all action type wasn’t afraid to get stuck in, could pick a pass out from deep, runs into the box, scores and assists.

Ozil on the other hand is a limited player afraid to put a foot in, afraid to shoot, can’t dictate a game from a deep area like Fabregas. Ozil will hang around up top waiting for a counter attack and provide the assist that’s about it.

Lol not sure if serious


Which one has played more club matches, more international matches, scored more goals, received more awards, and won more trophies? .... seems pretty serious to me.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:51 am

KG3 wrote:
swipe right wrote:Fabregas comes in at half time with Monaco trailing PSG 0-2. Gets a goal and an assist and ends the game 3-2. His legs are gone, he’s over the hill. But his experience and quality puts PSG to the sword. Why can’t we use Ozil this way?
https://youtu.be/HYbk77LVTOo


Because Fabregas is a superior player to Ozil and always had been, Fabregas was all action type wasn’t afraid to get stuck in, could pick a pass out from deep, runs into the box, scores and assists.

Ozil on the other hand is a limited player afraid to put a foot in, afraid to shoot, can’t dictate a game from a deep area like Fabregas. Ozil will hang around up top waiting for a counter attack and provide the assist that’s about it.

Stay off the drugs.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Dejan » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:01 pm

Cesc the absolute goat

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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Marsbar100 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:07 pm

Cesc was another level
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Ach » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:18 pm

Cesc was never at the level Ozil reached lol

How is this even a debate?
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby jayramfootball » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:41 pm

Willian - plays sh*t, bunks off to Dubai without telling the club... Arteta ... all is ok we've dealt with it internally.
Ozil - trains hard and shows his creative class as well as putting more running than 95% of any other player in the vast majority of the games he plays... Arteta... you're banished from the club.

Ah, favourites and bullying - the hallmark of Arteta's early management style.
No matter how bad it gets, at least we don't have to put up with Wenger anymore
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby aniym » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:30 pm

starmandb wrote:Özil was superb when we were 2-0 down at Ludogorets in 16/17
Provided an assist for Xhaka and scored the winner. Lobbing the keeper and making two defenders have to pay to get back in again before finishing


He schooled them that day. But it was still Ludogorets, a team we hit 6 against in the first leg, where Ozil got a hattrick. Being down 2-0 to them a week later is Arsenal being Arsenal, not because they're strong opposition.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby KG3 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:10 pm

If you deny Fabregas was better you were either too young to watch him during his Arsenal time or still bitter about him leaving and eventually playing for Chelsea.

I hate fabregas like I hate Ashley Cole but that doesn’t stop me from admitting he’s the best creative mid we’ve ever had, just as Cole is the best LB we’ve ever had.

You people need to learn to separate your feelings from you judgement.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:34 pm

What feelings? You lot that hate Cesc are weirdos! Most of you hated him because he left Arsenal and then because he went to Barca. He wanted to come back to Arsenal, Wenger didn't want him, so he went to Chelsea. Him going to Chelsea isn't the reason you hate him but it cements your reasoning - in your mind.

I don't hate any player just because they leave Arsenal, I don't hate RVP, Nasri or Ashley Cole. I don't even hate Adebayor. All this Judas bollox, its nonsense.

On the topic of Ozil vs Fabregas, both played different roles in different eras at the club. The Fabregas era had far better players. As a direct comparison it doesn't work but when you look at the numbers Ozil posted during the Ozil era it stands up to Fabregas' relatively speaking - i.e in spite of the drop in quality of rhe Arsenal squad.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby jayramfootball » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:38 pm

Ozil is a class above Fabregas.
Febregas was an excellent player, but there are only a few players that fit into the truly great player bracket - Ozil is one of them.
Very few players in history could match Ozils vision, or weight of pass. Fagregas didn't.
Where Fabregas was better was as a goal threat.
The only player we have ever had who had more talent than Ozil was Bergkamp.
No matter how bad it gets, at least we don't have to put up with Wenger anymore
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Ach » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:42 pm

Never hated adebayor or nasri.

Cesc and RVP can f**k themselves.

Cole is self explanatory
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Marsbar100 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm

Wasn't cesc fault Wenger turned him down
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