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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Power n Glory » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:44 pm

If the club want to get the best out of him, they should let him run the Arsenal Instagram account.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Zedie » Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:21 pm

Mustafi wrote:2 years left on his deal. We need to accept that he won't be gone and that we need to get the best out of him. Just play him at home against lesser opponents and make the best out of the situation.


350k to play in the league cup? Nope. At this stage wed make more money mutually terminating his contract and letting him go on a free.

350k x 104 weeks = 36m

Ozil becomes a free agent, gets a massive signing bonus and wages at whoever picks him up.

Kronke avoids spending a penny.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby aniym » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:10 pm

The league has 15 lesser opponents who we play 30 times a season for 90 possible points. under no circumstances should Ozil get game time there on the off chance that he can put together a vanity show a la Ludgorets 2016.

CL was lost due to dropping points against the lessers all season.

Play him against Top 4, at least there we can only drop a maximum of 24 points.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Angelito » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:14 pm

Precisely why I want Ozil to leave.

Any dropped points and this thread will get bumped until eternity. He's be the shield again. The narrative in the media and amongst Arsenal fans will be about Ozil and those wages.

The blame will be deflected away from the people who deserve to be blamed.

I'd take a summer of no more signings if it meant Ozil left. If he stays, another season of drama will surround Arsenal, with Ozil at the forefront.

We're soon becoming the soap opera club.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby EliteKiller » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:30 am

Is that the best we can expect? Fenerbahçe will take Ozil on loan but only pay 100k a week of his 350k salary ... so we would pay 12m next season to have him not play for us? .... might as well pay the 18m and have him as a back-up
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Nuggets » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:38 am

EliteKiller wrote:Is that the best we can expect? Fenerbahçe will take Ozil on loan but only pay 100k a week of his 350k salary ... so we would pay 12m next season to have him not play for us? .... might as well pay the 18m and have him as a back-up


Only if his mate in Turkey steps in will he go there, he is a has been now, people can see what return they will get for their money and are not stupid enough to bid for him and why should they. He is our white elephant.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:54 am

Its the classic situation when a player is simply better than the players around him and on a different wavelength. No player in the Arsenal squad has come close to playing at the level Ozil has played at for a decade. He may not be at that level now but he is still head and shoulders better than most. The problem is consistency, how do we get the most out of Ozil? How do we make him more consistent.

Ozil is missing a Cazorla type player, with the technical ability and vision that is superior to most.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby EliteKiller » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:36 am

theHotHead wrote:Its the classic situation when a player is simply better than the players around him and on a different wavelength. No player in the Arsenal squad has come close to playing at the level Ozil has played at for a decade. He may not be at that level now but he is still head and shoulders better than most. The problem is consistency, how do we get the most out of Ozil? How do we make him more consistent.

Ozil is missing a Cazorla type player, with the technical ability and vision that is superior to most.


WAS ... the word missing from your assessment is was, now he's on a level with Xhaka, Kola, Iwobi ... at least that's what all of last seasons statistics say (apart from the ethereal chances created from which nothing happened) but let's stay with goals and assists.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:14 am

To me it’s about what system is Emery going to play. If you play two CMs behind Ozil and two wingers you can give him the free role. Let him play between the lines and create opportunities. It just means everyone else has to work their socks off. It’s possible and it can work very well if the rest of the team covers for him. Even at his lethargic worst he is the one creative midfielder we have left. Putting another Torreira or Guendozi style player in his position is not going to help.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Nuggets » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:51 am

theHotHead wrote:Its the classic situation when a player is simply better than the players around him and on a different wavelength. No player in the Arsenal squad has come close to playing at the level Ozil has played at for a decade. He may not be at that level now but he is still head and shoulders better than most. The problem is consistency, how do we get the most out of Ozil? How do we make him more consistent.

Ozil is missing a Cazorla type player, with the technical ability and vision that is superior to most.


You keep banging on that old drum lol :rofll:
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby thebigbangtheo » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:48 am

swipe right wrote:Let’s make the most of him. Free role with two mobile CMs behind him and runners coming in off the flanks to feed off his service. Assists galore.


I'm of a similar opinion and to me that's pretty much the only way he should have been played from day one, and think le prof thought something similar when you consider the Coquelan, Santi, Ozil set up.

If he'd of got the upgrade to Coquelan we required and we hadn't misdiagnosed Santi's injury, isn't it likely that Wenger would still be here, with Arsenal still having it's identity for brilliant attacking, entertaining football prominent at the top tier of football?

Playing devils advocate, if Ozil was on say £180k pw, would he still have been embroiled in the furore surrounding his performance return of the last year or so, or would we have a greater appreciation of his skill set?

Personally, I believe that the fall out from his poor showing at the world cup and subsequent premature end of his international career for non footballing reasons, along with the emotional and psychological turmoil that inflicted, has not been fully appreciated and all too readily dismissed.

Players come and go, so we have all had to endure seeing a favourite depart the club at some point and we learn to move on. With that in mind, I would love to see him stay and start the season playing like Ozil circa 2015/16, then just before Christmas he's spotted having an ice cream in-between Lampard and Solskjaer.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Santi » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:24 pm

aniym wrote:https://www.fenerbahce.org/haberler/kulup/2019/7/bilgilendirme-1

Fenerbahce release statement saying they cannot afford Ozil and have not contacted the player.

We have an £18m millstone around our necks thanks to Gaz and Wenger. Although I suppose they couldn't have known that he'd put all the money towards perfecting his cloak of invisibility.



Told u, he’s going nowhere. Thank god.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:09 pm

Nuggets wrote:
theHotHead wrote:Its the classic situation when a player is simply better than the players around him and on a different wavelength. No player in the Arsenal squad has come close to playing at the level Ozil has played at for a decade. He may not be at that level now but he is still head and shoulders better than most. The problem is consistency, how do we get the most out of Ozil? How do we make him more consistent.

Ozil is missing a Cazorla type player, with the technical ability and vision that is superior to most.


You keep banging on that old drum lol :rofll:

Its a well oiled drum, nothing wrong with it. Until the skin breaks or I lose my drumsticks expect the drum to keep playing.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Goonerz » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:22 pm

EliteKiller wrote:Is that the best we can expect? Fenerbahçe will take Ozil on loan but only pay 100k a week of his 350k salary ... so we would pay 12m next season to have him not play for us? .... might as well pay the 18m and have him as a back-up

But according to his blinkered disciples “He is a world class player, best No10, too good and big for a club lik Arsenal. We are lucky to have him. Deserves better than Arsenal. All clubs would scramble for his signature blah blah...”
Lol

And since our only world class player has been here (6 seasons) he has only ever been linked to PSG on loan, Chinese club, Fenerbahce on loan. Imagine a so called world class player only ever being linked to those sorts of clubs.

But but but he is one of the best players in the world :rofll:
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Goonerz » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:46 pm

theHotHead wrote:Its the classic situation when a player is simply better than the players around him and on a different wavelength. No player in the Arsenal squad has come close to playing at the level Ozil has played at for a decade. He may not be at that level now but he is still head and shoulders better than most. The problem is consistency, how do we get the most out of Ozil? How do we make him more consistent.

Ozil is missing a Cazorla type player, with the technical ability and vision that is superior to most.

Talk about living firmly in the Ozil bubble where reality is upside down.
Reminds me of the TRUMP fanbase.
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