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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Fenice » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:17 pm

Losmeister wrote:
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swipe right wrote:Here comes the usual scapegoating. Boring.



Exactly, whole team plays shit, lets blame the highest paid player. :rolleyes:

He actually wasn't as bad as others.


damnation by faint praise... a tried and true ozil defense


I’m a huge Mesut supporter and I would have fined everyone outside of Laca and Leno if I was the manager. Almost the entire team was garbage. So how about everyone is attacked and not just a player you personally dislike.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Losmeister » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:32 pm

i like ozil. I am just often disappointed in his vanishing acts. "attack"??

I suppose David Squires is an ozil hater as well.
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng ... cup-hubris

and I been saying all year the roster needsa massive overhaul; cos we are decidedly a 2nd tier team.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Losmeister » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:34 pm

and btw, a vote a resounding YES to harp on the highest paid player when they are not living up to their pay.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby swipe right » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:19 pm

People railing on Ozil are stupid. When you play three CBs and two DMs you’re going to struggle to get the ball out of your own half. Ozil had to drop too far back to get on the ball which rendered him ineffictive against Everton. This was another selection failure from Senor Etxegoien.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Fenice » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:10 pm

Losmeister wrote:i like ozil. I am just often disappointed in his vanishing acts. "attack"??

I suppose David Squires is an ozil hater as well.
see panel 5

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng ... cup-hubris

and I been saying all year the roster needsa massive overhaul; cos we are decidedly a 2nd tier team.


Ozil is not the reason our side isn’t as good as it should be. He didn’t sign off on his own wage packet. He didn’t sign sub par players for close to a decade. And, he isn’t the reason that we’ve been cheap with signings for most of that decade. He is spotty in his performances, no one is arguing that. But if people blame him for the entire side shitting the bed, they’re missing what’s actually wrong, and what will probably continue to be wrong for a few more years.

Maybe Emery somehow changes that a bit. We’ll see next window.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Losmeister » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:14 pm

so messi can drop deep to get on the ball when his team needs it but thats too much for ozil. eff that ish.

when your so called BEST PLAYER vanishes regularly then he should get heat.
you expect more from your best players.

i also expect to get the eff rid of the lower quality players to upgrade the squad as a whole.
the list is pretty long.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby LMAO » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:35 pm

Losmeister wrote:so messi can drop deep to get on the ball when his team needs it but thats too much for ozil. eff that ish.


Gotta agree.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Power n Glory » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:56 pm

Cracks me up how often I see people here lay into the developing players for inconsistent performances but the guy that is supposedly our best player and the best AM in the world is the one that needs more support to be effective.

Someone break out the cheeky backheel videos and basic through balls that don't lead to goals cause that's what counts around here, right?
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Fenice » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:18 pm

LMAO wrote:
Losmeister wrote:so messi can drop deep to get on the ball when his team needs it but thats too much for ozil. eff that ish.


Gotta agree.


He’s been doing it for half of this season consistently. He wasn’t far forward last game because of it. Also, and I can’t stress this enough, Ozil isn’t Messi. Shocking, I know.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby LMAO » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:40 pm

Fenice wrote:
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Losmeister wrote:so messi can drop deep to get on the ball when his team needs it but thats too much for ozil. eff that ish.


Gotta agree.


He’s been doing it for half of this season consistently. He wasn’t far forward last game because of it. Also, and I can’t stress this enough, Ozil isn’t Messi. Shocking, I know.


Think Los's point was that if dropping deep isn't beneath Messi, then it shouldn't be for Ozil. At least, that's how I interpreted it.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Fenice » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:10 pm

LMAO wrote:
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Losmeister wrote:so messi can drop deep to get on the ball when his team needs it but thats too much for ozil. eff that ish.


Gotta agree.


He’s been doing it for half of this season consistently. He wasn’t far forward last game because of it. Also, and I can’t stress this enough, Ozil isn’t Messi. Shocking, I know.


Think Los's point was that if dropping deep isn't beneath Messi, then it shouldn't be for Ozil. At least, that's how I interpreted it.


He’s been doing it. People just don’t seem to watch the games. Or they’re completely overlooking him changing his game to be deeper for more of the game to get and control the ball.

He doesn’t play as advanced as he used to.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby swipe right » Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:47 pm

Rofl laughing at people using Messi as a comparison. He just happens to be the greatest player ever. Aside from Messi, a ten is expected to play at the top of midfield and be the link with the strikers. Not drop back to pick the ball up from those two clowns because they can’t pass ten yards up the field.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:16 am

Henry used to drop deep to get the ball all the time and he was a striker, not even a no.10.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Losmeister » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:35 am

LMAO wrote:
Fenice wrote:
LMAO wrote:
Losmeister wrote:so messi can drop deep to get on the ball when his team needs it but thats too much for ozil. eff that ish.


Gotta agree.


He’s been doing it for half of this season consistently. He wasn’t far forward last game because of it. Also, and I can’t stress this enough, Ozil isn’t Messi. Shocking, I know.


Think Los's point was that if dropping deep isn't beneath Messi, then it shouldn't be for Ozil. At least, that's how I interpreted it.


reading comprehension round here aint the best...
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Losmeister » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:37 am

anyway... he didnt show up much in the hilite package i watched...

how was his overall performance. from reading the Guardian MBM seemed decent.
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