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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Zedie » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:43 am

swipe right wrote:So let’s see...
Sanchez on 350k at MU
Ramsey on 400k at Juve
So why was it wrong to offer Ozil 350k to keep him?


Because hes soaked up all our wage bill which stops us from replacing clear deadwood in the squad and is hurting our chances of climbing out of top 6 and into top 4 significantly.

Both of the others are already super stacked in all positions and we can just about put a solid 11 together to win big games, even though that's already gone since we lost the only high level full back we had to injury.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby swipe right » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:47 am

Zedie wrote:
swipe right wrote:So let’s see...
Sanchez on 350k at MU
Ramsey on 400k at Juve
So why was it wrong to offer Ozil 350k to keep him?


Because hes soaked up all our wage bill which stops us from replacing clear deadwood in the squad and is hurting our chances of climbing out of top 6 and into top 4 significantly.

Both of the others are already super stacked in all positions and we can just about put a solid 11 together to win big games, even though that's already gone since we lost the only high level full back we had to injury.

So by that reasoning we will always be a selling club. The minute a player reaches a certain level he is bound to leave as we won’t pay market value as it will destroy our wage bill. Ironically that’s what wenger always wanted and people called him a socialist.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby aniym » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:56 am

swipey why dont u make yourself useful and make a youtube comp of Ozil's chances created this season. Shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby EliteKiller » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:08 am

swipe right wrote:So let’s see...
Sanchez on 350k at MU
Ramsey on 400k at Juve
So why was it wrong to offer Ozil 350k to keep him?


Because he's the wrong side of thirty and playing like a forty year old ... next question
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby swipe right » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:29 am

This EK fella is too smart for me. Checkmating me on every thread. EK Out!
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Nuggets » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:44 am

EliteKiller wrote:
swipe right wrote:So let’s see...
Sanchez on 350k at MU
Ramsey on 400k at Juve
So why was it wrong to offer Ozil 350k to keep him?


Because he's the wrong side of thirty and playing like a forty year old ... next question

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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby AndyBoy » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:30 pm

Ozil has been the main problem since he joined.

Wenger refused to see that and lost his job.

Emery is doing the right thing
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby AndyBoy » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:35 pm

swipe right wrote:So let’s see...
Sanchez on 350k at MU
Ramsey on 400k at Juve
So why was it wrong to offer Ozil 350k to keep him?


We could get two better players for that amount.

Why insist on keeping that liability ?
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Dynamite » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:03 pm

swipe right wrote:So let’s see...
Sanchez on 350k at MU
Ramsey on 400k at Juve
So why was it wrong to offer Ozil 350k to keep him?


Sanchez isn't worth 350k and Özil too.
350k contracts seems to be cursed :hiding:

Ramsey has to show his worth next season (btw where is this 400k coming from?)
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Losmeister » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:08 pm

Dynamite wrote:
swipe right wrote:So let’s see...
Sanchez on 350k at MU
Ramsey on 400k at Juve
So why was it wrong to offer Ozil 350k to keep him?


Sanchez isn't worth 350k and Özil too.
350k contracts seems to be cursed :hiding:

Ramsey has to show his worth next season (btw where is this 400k coming from?)


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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby theHotHead » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:45 pm

Rockape wrote:
Very true, people spouting on about needing to be in the CL to attract the best players, but you need the cash to back it up and only a couple of times in all those years have we done that! However, we can't be content to play in the EL because that's the only comp we stand a chance of winning. If we take on that mentality, we'll NEVER make it back to the elite level. We have to keep pushing to be the best, even if our players aren't good enough currently.

Totally agree. We must aim higher. We must look for continuous improvement
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby antfosfosant » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:16 pm

The narrative on Ozil has gone too far for anything objective to be said, whether in favour of or against the player. He can play a game ( eg Cardiff) where is only player who consistently looks with very touch as though will create space and chances, and be slated for having a weak game. He can play shit for 89 mins and play a pass to win a game and be lauded as a match winner. My view (objectively!)? Overpaid yes , but to get someone of his quality and creativity, we will be paying north of £200k pw plus a chunky signing on fee (eg £40m). Assuming Ozil has sod all resale value (given his salary), any replacement will cost the same as he does in cash flow terms, give or take. If signing fee is more than £40m or contract less than 5 years, then will be more expensive than Ozil. Not sure who there is out there who is better and could be got cheaper. Certainly not enough cash for 2 or 3 stars.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby aniym » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:30 pm

antfosfosant wrote:The narrative on Ozil has gone too far for anything objective to be said, whether in favour of or against the player. He can play a game ( eg Cardiff) where is only player who consistently looks with very touch as though will create space and chances, and be slated for having a weak game. He can play shit for 89 mins and play a pass to win a game and be lauded as a match winner. My view (objectively!)? Overpaid yes , but to get someone of his quality and creativity, we will be paying north of £200k pw plus a chunky signing on fee (eg £40m). Assuming Ozil has sod all resale value (given his salary), any replacement will cost the same as he does in cash flow terms, give or take. If signing fee is more than £40m or contract less than 5 years, then will be more expensive than Ozil. Not sure who there is out there who is better and could be got cheaper. Certainly not enough cash for 2 or 3 stars.


Do we need a star to get a return of 8-9 assists a season?
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby DiamondGooner » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:44 pm

aniym wrote:
antfosfosant wrote:The narrative on Ozil has gone too far for anything objective to be said, whether in favour of or against the player. He can play a game ( eg Cardiff) where is only player who consistently looks with very touch as though will create space and chances, and be slated for having a weak game. He can play shit for 89 mins and play a pass to win a game and be lauded as a match winner. My view (objectively!)? Overpaid yes , but to get someone of his quality and creativity, we will be paying north of £200k pw plus a chunky signing on fee (eg £40m). Assuming Ozil has sod all resale value (given his salary), any replacement will cost the same as he does in cash flow terms, give or take. If signing fee is more than £40m or contract less than 5 years, then will be more expensive than Ozil. Not sure who there is out there who is better and could be got cheaper. Certainly not enough cash for 2 or 3 stars.


Do we need a star to get a return of 8-9 assists a season?


Your being a bit harsh.

Tbf the man has barely featured this season, if he were playing regularly you know he's capable of more, he's done it plenty of times.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby ag6789 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:23 pm

Or maybe Ozil is really sick. He might have developed chronic back problem and his knee issues also putting him down. Maybe he needs a detailed medical care.
These are very wealthy young men, reckless, with high libido, and might have abused themselves and now suffering physically.
Many top players were prone to such lifestyle, like George Best, Gascoigne (Gazza) , etc. He probably needs counseling and care.
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